Posted on 04/09/2005 7:03:51 AM PDT by harrowup
Of course I am trying to find fault with the project. It is a joke. A dangerous joke. That is my opinion. You have a different opinion, and your asides do not do anything to increase my interest in trying to believe you are either sincere or objective.
I hope some of the folks from the border gang were better at estimating the night club girls weight than they are at counting heads that reported for duty.
You're spreading more lies.
The truth:
No one every claimed 2000 volunteers.
There have been over 450 people already involved in the MMP in the first week alone.
I helped register the MMP volunteers and there were well over 100 registered in the first few hours.
The start dates never slipped. Everything has been occuring on schedule.
The orientation session wherein Bay Buchanan, Tom Tancredo, and others spoke had to be held three times. The room it was held in could only seat about 90 people. Each session was full. Do the math. And don't try to say it was media packing the sessions as very few media were allowed in and certainly weren't allowed to sit in the seats meant for the volunteers.
Bay Buchanan is not a b***h and you have a foul mouth.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
It is understandable that you disagree with the intent of the project and its operation. You are free to do so. However, the constant lying, namecalling, and such is not doing your side any favors. Of course, that's really all you have to go on.
Fair questions all to which the answer is yes, of course. I am also a Democrat who just doesn't like what has happened to my party and the racial hatred it encourages with the likes of Jesse Jackson, Maxine Waters and Al Sharpton among others.
The Republican Party used to be the party of Lincoln. The way Tancredo and his ilk go on about the U.S.A./Mexico Border almost makes me ill.
The problem of illegals in this country is not limited to migrant workers from Mexico...or even the killers and drug dealers from Mexico there are thousands of Chinese, Russian, Indian, Pakistani, Korean, Vietnamese and Irish illegals and practically every damn student visa jerk from the UK and Africa is going to cheat and become an illegal...
Because it had to be repeated. In bold.
You have lost my respect for your temperance.
Whatever. I told the truth, you lied. You called Bay Buchanan a b***h. I didn't call you a traitor or agent of the Mexican government, I didn't call you names, I didn't even hit the abuse button over your obscenity. I'm not trying to earn your respect but trying to counter the lies and such coming from you and your ilk.
I had originally thought that Spiff was at least a level headed honest observer. I was wrong.
Spiff?
This is only a courtesy ping since I am confirming that unless you change your tone with me you are going to be ignored.
Oh, so you hang out with the French. That explains everything about you....and why your so pathetic.
Here's the problem. Instead of the "Minute Man Project," it should have been called the "Million Man Project." Then the media could have reported that hundreds of thousands were involved.
And that is what is all boils down to. You think we're all a bunch of racist yahoos.
For one, we're not.
Secondly, what "race" would we be "racist" against if we were to engage in a "racist" campaign against Mexico. What "race" is represented by Mexico, exactly?
Let see, most in Mexico are of Spanish descent. What "race" are the Spanish? Oh, they're European. Hmmm...Spanish is an ethnicity like Italian or French - not a race. Mexican? No, that's a nationality, not a race. Indian? Let's explore that a bit. Many in Mexico are a mix of Spanish and Indian and, you know what, the wealthy elite hate the Indians and anyone of their descent. If anything, the wealthy elite of Mexico are the racists, not the people who want to uphold the laws and secure our borders in a post 9/11 world during a time of war against terrorism. So, your charges of racism are ridiculous at best.
And, to put it bluntly, are you calling ME a racist?
These guys have no decency what-so-ever.
I wrote to Spiff who misrepresented my statements to call me a liar so that he could object to my namecalling...which he created:
harrowup wrote:.."You have lost my respect for your temperance."
to which Spiff replied:... Whatever. I told the truth, you lied. You called Bay Buchanan a b***h.
Lie; I have a much better term for Pat's sister. But I didn't call her a bitch. I said she had a Biddy Bitch session. I guess ol' Spiff never has been in the service and doesn't know what a bitch session is.
I didn't call you a traitor or agent of the Mexican government, I didn't call you names, I didn't even hit the abuse button over your obscenity. I'm not trying to earn your respect but trying to counter the lies and such coming from you and your ilk."
I told him I was pleased he had never called me such which was why I respected his reports. He has now called me a liar so many times I won't count, and won't bother to read his crap anymore...and a bitch session isn't an obscenity.
This is stupid. So how do they distinguish against things like wild animals (e.g. deer, elk, wild pigs, etc?) - that's a straw man. If the motion detectors only set up to detect vehicles then the motion detectors are pretty much useless for people who choose a stealthier method.
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Come on Harrowup those who are concerned about illegal immigration give most attention to the southern border because the vast majority of illigal aliens come into the country from there. If between 250-500 thousand canadians were coming into this country illegaly every year there would be a Minuteman like group on the norther border. Hell, if illegal Canadians were coming in in those numbers, ID be there myself.
But maybe thats just me. Canadian socialism is far more vociferous than Mexican socialism.
Anti-Mexican racism is playing a huge part in the miserable failing attempt that some groups like MMP and others are trying to stir against illegal immigration from Mexico. Soon enough they will find out that they are less significant than a fart in a storm.
On the other hand are you really a member of the ACLU? If so how can you belong to this most anti-Christian organization in the country? The ACLU is a very destructive organization and it can do thousands of time more harm than the MMP because they have a vast power of influence in the out of control judicial branch.
Do you have any idea how many illegal 'legal' temporary Polish ladies there are in Chicago doing housework?
This vigilante activity on the Arizona/Mexico border is blatant bigotry.
The Candians and Western Europeans can come here legally because they do not need a visa, but they stay and work here "illegaly".
" Canadian socialism is far more vociferous than Mexican socialism"
It's apparent that you nothing about Mexico, their system of government borders on communism and makes Canada look like pikers!
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