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Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns
TNL ^ | 04/09/2005 | The National Ledger

Posted on 04/10/2005 7:00:25 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone

Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns

Casey Nethercott is the leader of a militia group dubbed the Arizona Guard and said during a TV interview broadcast on Friday, "When this Minuteman thing is over, if it doesn't work, we're going to come out here and close the border with machine guns."

KVOA TV-4 in Tucson carried a report on Friday by reporter Nancy Perla that toured the group's compound that sits along the Arizona/Mexico border near Douglas, Arizona. The camera showed two older model American made SUV's, both painted black, that Nethercott claims are "armored vehicles" with "quarter-inch steel in them." Pointing again to the vehicles, Nethercott continued, "You'll get killed without them, here's been so many shootouts out here."

The camera then shows a concrete block wall riddled with bullet holes that Nethercott says came from drug smugglers. The report titled "Mimicman Projects" by KVOA calls them copy cats and says the project could begin on July 4, though Nethercott would release no details.

The Minuteman Project stated through Chris Simcox, who is an organizer for the project, that they don't support a violent solution. "I think anytime you go to that length to take the law into your own hands, you're asking for trouble," Simcox told KVOA.

The armed militia supports the Minuteman Project, but says that if they fail to close the border to illegal border crossers, his group will step in and be heavily armed to do the job.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizonaguard; border; brothersantaanna; control; militia; proillegalthread; vigilantes; violence
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These MMK's are really one step away from going postal.
1 posted on 04/10/2005 7:00:26 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone
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To: Dane; harrowup; Spiff; HiJinx; Ben Ficklin

Guys, here is a wonderful example of a man, Casey Nethercott, who is one thread away from snapping and causing an international incident. Scary.


2 posted on 04/10/2005 7:02:55 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
"These MMK's are really one step away from going postal."

If a parade of uninvited street people walk through your front door, would you defend yourself?

3 posted on 04/10/2005 7:04:25 AM PDT by Liberator
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To: ClintonBeGone

You do realize this has absolutely no association with the Minuteman project right? I know you've called the Minutemen MMK so it appears you are associating the two together. They are on totally opposite sides of the fence and I know you know that. I just wonder if you will admit it.


4 posted on 04/10/2005 7:04:33 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ClintonBeGone

Uh oh, this is going to get ugly.


5 posted on 04/10/2005 7:05:00 AM PDT by Certified Horticulturist
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To: ClintonBeGone; Admin Moderator

Already posted.


6 posted on 04/10/2005 7:05:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns

Imagine that! And I thought they (the militia) said they were just going to inform the Boarder Patrol about illegal entrants.

7 posted on 04/10/2005 7:05:45 AM PDT by infocats
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To: ClintonBeGone

This is getting interesting.


8 posted on 04/10/2005 7:06:11 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: ClintonBeGone

You be bad.


9 posted on 04/10/2005 7:07:02 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ozarkgirl

They are joined at the hip and co-ordinate their activities.


10 posted on 04/10/2005 7:08:19 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ClintonBeGone

warning:

the left has more experience in using the media to exploit an international incident than these guys realize.

the left also controls most of the print and tv news.


11 posted on 04/10/2005 7:09:42 AM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Ben Ficklin
They are joined at the hip and co-ordinate their activities

And you know this how? Any proof or pure conjecture?

12 posted on 04/10/2005 7:09:54 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ClintonBeGone
Whether or not the border needs to be defended by vigilanties with machine guns is a discussion I'm not going to weigh in on.  However, the fact that some, and a growing number, of people feel it is necessary, should shame our Congress Critters into actually fulfulling their duties and upholding our laws.


Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

13 posted on 04/10/2005 7:10:46 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: ClintonBeGone

Well this is one way to finally get the US military on our border.


14 posted on 04/10/2005 7:12:03 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: infocats
Imagine that! And I thought they (the militia) said they were just going to inform the Boarder Patrol about illegal entrants.

Unless you have an agenda, you must recognize that this "militia" is a different set of people from the Minute Men.

If the MM Project was not working I might grudgingly agree with the militia concept. But it IS working and needs to be expanded, without interference from potential troublemakers.

15 posted on 04/10/2005 7:14:15 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: ozarkgirl

Foote is in Arizona also. They are all there. Do you think it is a co-incidence?


16 posted on 04/10/2005 7:14:38 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ClintonBeGone

Can't we just post some 'Beware of Militia' signs at the border and send them some ammo?


17 posted on 04/10/2005 7:15:07 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: ClintonBeGone

Your agenda is showing.


18 posted on 04/10/2005 7:17:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Rennes Templar

"Well this is one way to finally get the US military on our border."

What a nice thought.....thank you!


19 posted on 04/10/2005 7:21:31 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: kcvl
Not only his but the lame stream media's agenda by posting comments from this left wing idiot.
20 posted on 04/10/2005 7:21:44 AM PDT by dts32041 (We have instituted our own set of Nuremberg laws.)
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To: dts32041

Check his/her personal page. VIVA BUSH.


21 posted on 04/10/2005 7:23:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Supporting Bush is proof-positive that CBB is a Nazi!


22 posted on 04/10/2005 7:28:39 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ClintonBeGone
Guys, here is a wonderful example of a man, Casey Nethercott, who is one thread away from snapping and causing an international incident. Scary.

Yeah, I'll bet you would have said the same thing about patriots organizing prior to Lexington and Concord.

Find yourself a spine.
23 posted on 04/10/2005 7:28:41 AM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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To: ClintonBeGone
... and causing an international incident ...

I like the idea. Mexico has been conducting an undeclared war on us with the intention of regain their former lands. They are using their only real weapon. Its time to secure our borders from the constant attack. In my opinion, another Mexican war would be a good thing.

24 posted on 04/10/2005 7:30:27 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: ozarkgirl
You do realize this has absolutely no association with the Minuteman project right?

It does, but it will gladly stoop to using Clinton style tactics to discredit the Minutemen.

25 posted on 04/10/2005 7:30:59 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: ozarkgirl
They are joined at the hip and co-ordinate their activities

And you know this how?

It knows nothing. Like the other, it will lie to discredit the MM.

26 posted on 04/10/2005 7:33:07 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I support President Bush, just not on immigration. I was talking about the corrupt grinning President of Mexico. I think you already knew that.

In fact, I worked hard to get President Bush elected. I just don't think we should allow ILLEGALS to break OUR LAWS which they are doing on a daily basis.

I guess I could try to pick and choose which laws I want to follow but I would be thrown in jail. They break laws everyday of the week just by being here ILLEGALLY!


27 posted on 04/10/2005 7:33:42 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ClintonBeGone

Our government won't protect us on this one...what's a citizen supposed to do?


28 posted on 04/10/2005 7:34:00 AM PDT by Route101
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To: Ben Ficklin
No actually he is a left winger, a nazi is just a little to th right of stalin, all are in the same area of politics.
29 posted on 04/10/2005 7:34:13 AM PDT by dts32041 (We have instituted our own set of Nuremberg laws.)
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To: Marine Inspector; Ben Ficklin
Foote is in Arizona also. They are all there. Do you think it is a co-incidence?

Apparently just being in the same state is enough to condemn them with "association". It's a ridiculous point. And Ben, they are in the same state because that is where the illegals cross (shaking head), you're gonna have to try harder, that argument won't wash.

30 posted on 04/10/2005 7:40:32 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: kcvl
If that is the case, then why did you point out that CCB's support of Bush was somehow egregious? Certainly a fellow Bush supporter would find nothing significant with that Viva Bush statement.

Do you have Viva Bush on your profile page.

You have a credibility problem.

31 posted on 04/10/2005 7:41:31 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: kcvl
I guess I could try to pick and choose which laws I want to follow but I would be thrown in jail. They break laws everyday of the week just by being here ILLEGALLY!

So does tom tancredo, illegal labor helped remodel his basement with an overhead projector and terraced seating.

If he was true to his rhetoric he would get a sledge hammer and destroy that impure structure, but he won't. He like all the rest of us is looking for the best quality at the best prices when buying goods and services.

Now I'm going to get attacked as being some open borders zealot, but I'm not. I don't believe in milatarized borders, but do beleive in documenting these people who want to work building structures and pick and process food in the US which benefits us all, and us the other resources in going after the real bad guys.

If I was in Arizona I would have voted for Prop. 200, what I'm not for is demonizing hard working people and small business people trying to get there share of the American dream.

32 posted on 04/10/2005 7:43:07 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Ben Ficklin

You are making absolutely no sense whatsoever. I have said nothing about anyone supporting President Bush. I think you have a comprehension problem


33 posted on 04/10/2005 7:43:14 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ozarkgirl
Apparently just being in the same state is enough to condemn them with "association".

Yep. It's just more evidence at its dishonesty.

BTW, Foote is in Texas. So not only is it dishonest, it's wrong.

34 posted on 04/10/2005 7:44:54 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: ozarkgirl
Well, the illegals cross the border in Texas also.

Of course you know that all these goof-balls were previously in Texas together. Texas ran them off so now they are in Arizona together.

35 posted on 04/10/2005 7:44:57 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Of course you know that all these goof-balls were previously in Texas together. Texas ran them off so now they are in Arizona together.

Ok, was just shaking my head before, now laughing out loud. Thanks for the humorous morning.

36 posted on 04/10/2005 7:48:10 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ClintonBeGone

How about if you just trot back under your bridge, Mr. Troll? Your propaganda is so thin we can see your agenda through it.


37 posted on 04/10/2005 7:48:41 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Dane
I'm not for is demonizing hard working people and small business people trying to get there share of the American dream.

I happen to be a "small business" and I don't hire ILLEGALS. I pay my employees salaries and benefits and don't expect the taxpayers to subsidize them in order to produce so-called cheap goods. They aren't cheap once you add in all the benefits paid for by HARD WORKING LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS. These employers should be FORCED to pay for their benefits and see how many ILLEGALS they employ.

38 posted on 04/10/2005 7:49:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ozarkgirl

Post 32 shows more dishonesty.

It's been proven many times over on this web site that Tancredo did not hire illegal aliens, but these folks can't help but drag up old rumors and attempt to make them true.


39 posted on 04/10/2005 7:49:45 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector
We're Baaaaaaack
40 posted on 04/10/2005 7:54:59 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ozarkgirl
Of course you know that all these goof-balls were previously in Texas together. Texas ran them off so now they are in Arizona together.

Yes, he is laughable. Most people that follow the border issue know that Nethercott kicked Foote off his ranch last year and they no longer associate and Foote is back in Texas. It was widely discussed here on FR.

Yes, I laugh also, when these idiots continue to post lies and confirm, for all to see, their dishonesty.

41 posted on 04/10/2005 7:55:23 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: infocats

[Border Militia: We'll Shut Down the Border with Machine Guns]

"Imagine that! And I thought they (the militia) said they were just going to inform the Boarder Patrol about illegal entrants."

It's people like you who have caused the problem in the first place. When the immigration law is not enforced, it leads to an invasion of illegals who defy the law, which in turn leads to lawlessness on the part of our own citizens. For example, Why should I have a drivers license when illegals don't have them and would get forged ones even if the law were changed?

So, the Minutemen come and raise a stink, legally, to draw attention to the problem, and you complain about citizen's making a legitimate cry for help. On the other hand, people like you support an invasion of illegal thieves and gangbangers across the border and then are surprised when gangs of thieves and gangbangers take them on? Unbelievable.

Lawlessnes begats lawless ness. That's the whole point. The Minutemen are trying to avert the greater problem.


42 posted on 04/10/2005 7:58:40 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: ozarkgirl
You do realize this has absolutely no association with the Minuteman project right? I know you've called the Minutemen MMK so it appears you are associating the two together. They are on totally opposite sides of the fence and I know you know that. I just wonder if you will admit it.

Hmmm. I didn't know that...thinking they were both one and the same. Thanks for pointing that out.

43 posted on 04/10/2005 7:58:43 AM PDT by infocats
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To: kcvl
I happen to be a "small business" and I don't hire ILLEGALS. I pay my employees salaries and benefits and don't expect the taxpayers to subsidize them in order to produce so-called cheap goods. They aren't cheap once you add in all the benefits paid for by HARD WORKING LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS. These employers should be FORCED to pay for their benefits and see how many ILLEGALS they employ

Uh you saw where I was for Prop. 200. I say cut down on all welfare, for everybody.

And contrary to your demonization of the small business people who are building buildings and tarring roofs in 100 degree heat, that they are rubbing their hands together going "muuuaaaaaah, I'm going to screw the taxpayer", I think there main objective is to complete their contract and have reliable workers to get the job done.

That must be the epitomie of evil to you, IMO.

44 posted on 04/10/2005 8:00:12 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: JimRed
Unless you have an agenda, you must recognize that this "militia" is a different set of people from the Minute Men.

I don't have an agenda and really didn't know they were different groups until it was pointed out to me. Thanks.

45 posted on 04/10/2005 8:01:23 AM PDT by infocats
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To: Dane
your demonization of the small business people who are building buildings and tarring roofs in 100 degree heat

I'm not demonizing anyone. I just happen to think ILLEGALS and the people who employ them are suppose to OBEY OUR LAWS. Who the hell do you think built buildings and tarred roofs in 100 degree heat BEFORE we allowed ILLEGALS TO BREAK OUR LAWS?!

46 posted on 04/10/2005 8:05:25 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: infocats; ozarkgirl
Hmmm. I didn't know that...thinking they were both one and the same. Thanks for pointing that out

JMO, neathercott's group and the minutemen, probably have something akin to what the demos and the aclu have.

The aclu is "independent" yada, yada, yada, but are really another arm of the democrat party.

47 posted on 04/10/2005 8:06:39 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: FastCoyote
It's people like you who have caused the problem in the first place.

Yes, as I sit here in the Catskill Mountains of New York State, it is people like me who have not issued an order for the Boarder Patrol to do its job, and of causing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants to come flooding across our boarders looking for a better way of life.

Perhaps you would like to lay death and orignal sin upon my shoulder's also?

48 posted on 04/10/2005 8:07:58 AM PDT by infocats
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To: kcvl
I'm not demonizing anyone. I just happen to think ILLEGALS and the people who employ them are suppose to OBEY OUR LAWS. Who the hell do you think built buildings and tarred roofs in 100 degree heat BEFORE we allowed ILLEGALS TO BREAK OUR LAWS?!

Americans, and immigrants, but most Americans don't want those jobs now.

.

Also remember it was immigrants who filled up the steel mills in the 20th century.

I guess Carnegie was an evil business owner to you.

49 posted on 04/10/2005 8:12:09 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Yes, as I sit here in the Catskill Mountains of New York State, it is people like me who have not issued an order for the Boarder Patrol to do its job, and of causing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants to come flooding across our boarders looking for a better way of life. Perhaps you would like to lay death and orignal sin upon my shoulder's also?

You may want to learn how to spell border.

50 posted on 04/10/2005 8:16:12 AM PDT by Mogollon
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