Posted on 04/21/2005 8:17:08 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
The defining moment of my visit to New Orleans a year ago occurred in a gift shop. I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit this, but at least it wasn't the kind that sells feather boas and t-shirts with jazz-playing lobsters. I wasn't a sorority girl nursing my hangover at Café Du Monde during Mardi Gras; I was a tourist visiting what used to be a sprawling, stately slave plantation.
I was busy mulling over that subtly troubling experience, browsing through the gift shop's bookshelves, when I came to a curious array of volumes. The title The South Was Right! jumped out at me first, and it took me a few minutes of thumbing through it to convince myself that it wasn't actually a joke. Stunned, I went down the line, looking in disbelief as each title lamented the once-great Confederacy and the common values it stood for. My favorite item was The Jefferson Davis Coloring Book, which I suspect is perfect for young Dixiecrats of all ages. I bought it just to remind myself that it exists.
I wonder how many parents in Louisiana are reading their children bedtime stories about their heroic ex-president.
It is this experience and others that have made me curious about a sliver of the South that -- apparently -- exists right here in upstate New York. Plenty of students coming back from breaks, sometimes along with their bubbly parents, have driven past a specific abode that has one memorable defining feature. On Route 79, that country road that often takes us home, there boasts a large, proud Confederate flag on the front wall of this particular house. You've probably seen it.
Why here, 200 miles north of the Mason-Dixon Line? That was the question that ricocheted in my mind one night as I drove past; so to find my answer, I pulled over and knocked on the door. Since that moment last semester, I've been chronicling the lives of the family that lives there with a video camera.
I dove in without knowing what to expect. I wasn't the only one, of course. No less than three different professors I pitched this to warned me to "be careful." They all said -- some more jokingly than others -- that I should bring a gun.
It was at this point I realized that I wasn't dealing merely with an outdated symbol of the Confederacy; I was dealing with a powerful and common conception, even among us Ivy League educated, that we are a shining City on a Hill among barren fields of hicks with mullets who watch NASCAR all day and grill roadkill venison on their pickup truck radiators. I finally wanted to find out if these cartoons that we've come to accept as "the other America" really exist.
My grand project to get behind the stereotypes of rural America wasn't off to a great start when the door opened and I came face to face with a man, a mullet and the vicious guard dog he was holding back (but no shotgun). I realized this was going to be a bit more difficult than I'd envisioned.
No matter: He directed me to the house next door, which happened to be the residence of his entire family. Not one of the Cornell professors or friends I'd spoken to would have predicted what happened next -- that I'd be greeted warmly; that I'd be invited in, even as an unexpected guest; that the family would listen to my pitch to follow them around with a video camera; and that they'd send me off, wishing me well.
These people are not white supremacists who love Jefferson Davis and hate minorities, who want to send the all-American middle finger to people with dark skin by putting up the rebel flag. I've spent too much time with them to believe it's true. Otherwise, the daughter of the family -- art school, anti-Bush, dyed hair, goth -- would have been booted onto the street long ago.
At the same time, I've spent enough of my life in Southern states to know that the racist sentiments interpreted as the meaning behind the rebel flag are still alive in some places, even if they are pushed underground. That's true of an enlightened city like New York as much as rural Pennsylvania or Jackson, Mississippi.
But instead of trying to argue that this is not a family of true racists -- which the film will do better than words, and which would rely entirely on my subjective experience -- I return to the question I began with: Why do they have that rebel flag hanging there for all the passing cars to see?
I spoke to them, as well as many people who share their view -- that the Confederate flag symbolizes not slavery but a rebellious spirit, an identity of a people who merely sought to defend their homeland as it was being invaded by a Yankee army. This view was the one I'd stumbled upon in a Louisiana gift shop, peddled by historians far out of the mainstream of academic life.
Yet this view is prevalent among a minority of rural white Americans. They don't care that the big-city elites say it's a symbol of slavery -- and by most scholarly accounts, that's exactly what it is. They've taken the symbol back, as an identity for themselves. Not an identity of hatred, but one of self-assertion.
Even if misguided, I came to respect their choice of home decoration. After all, they'd been told for generations that it was a symbol entirely separate from the question of slavery, without the corrective influence of a Cornell history professor to intervene.
Even so, I can't help but feel a bit off guard whenever I drive past. Not because I know what the flag means, but because I know who lives behind it.
Andy Guess is a senior in the College of Arts and Sciences. He can be contacted at guess@cornell.edu. The Last Boy Scout usually appears alternate Fridays.
Dixie ping
Yankees have no idea what that flag really means. It's no use in telling them.
I wonder if the Confederate apologists helped the Japanese with their new Textbooks.
From what I can remember, the Confederate forces were not able to hold N.O. and Southern Louisiana for long. They managed to keep the rest though for 4 years.
I don't see what the big deal is. We have a Stars and Bars flying outside.
Nope, but we can help you wipe yer butt and put your drawers back on genius...if you'd like.
His world view was slightly disturbed, but he seems to have rolled over and gone back to sleep again.
To a New Yorker, the Confederate Battle Flag means something radically different than to the Southerner. The narrative we're told about the civil war is that it was about freeing slaves; southerners were told that it was about the state's rights to self-regulate. Thus, to a Southerner, the Confederate Battle flag symbolizes all that was right about the south - chivalry, defense of one's homeland, and the noble political sentiment of a limited federal government. To the Northerner, the Confederate Battle Flag symbolizes all that was evil about the south - an oppression of a people considered to be subhuman. Neither is exactly wrong, per se, it's more a matter of perspective than objective facts.
LOL lord have mercy.
The offer still stands caker.
I'll even spring for Huggies Wipes.....with two in diapers I always have them handy.
There's only one problem Mr Sanctimony.
Your head is in the way....it will have to go.
"Yankees have no idea what that flag really means. It's no use in telling them."
If they have to ask, they will never understand the answer.
"I wonder if the Confederate apologists helped the Japanese with their new Textbooks."
Idiot.
Well, I'm sorry, I'm just not into perverted homosexual scatological games.
It's all swamp anyway.
Take your soft soap over to HKtech apperantly he needs some assistance.
So that explains why N.O. seems to be cut of the same cloth as the N.E. That city has a large majority of liberals.
I don't understand the comparision between the Japanese and folks who fly the CBF as part of their southern heritage repertoire.
...well...now that you mention it.
Completely unfair comparison. It shouldn't even be made. He/she deserves the tongue lashing.
Actually, it was Marshall, Texas -- about 30 miles west of Shreveport.
comment deserves your *polite* reflection ;-)
"Even so, I can't help but feel a bit off guard whenever I drive past."
That's Good.
:o)
I don't think you read this article at all.
Whatever. Your people won the war so they told you what they wanted you to believe for at least 5 generations. And you all gobbled it up. Nobody mentioned to you about the evil slavery in the north that co-existed with slavery in the south? Or how the evil North East bankers made millions on the slave trade? And you yanks accuse the deep south of being illiterate. HA! Read anything except some publication about how sanctimonious your ancestors were. You might be surprised at the slaves in your own back yard.
Some people do have a sense of humor but the liberals are forever demonizing people so you'll have to understand why some people are defensive (for good,legitimate reasons imho).
These people are not white supremacists who love Jefferson Davis and hate minorities, who want to send the all-American middle finger to people with dark skin by putting up the rebel flag. I've spent too much time with them to believe it's true
Sigh...it's going to take a long time if we have to teach one yankee at a time ;)
I spoke to them, as well as many people who share their view -- that the Confederate flag symbolizes not slavery but a rebellious spirit, an identity of a people who merely sought to defend their homeland as it was being invaded by a Yankee army. This view was the one I'd stumbled upon in a Louisiana gift shop, peddled by historians far out of the mainstream of academic life.
Yet this view is prevalent among a minority of rural white Americans. They don't care that the big-city elites say it's a symbol of slavery -- and by most scholarly accounts, that's exactly what it is. They've taken the symbol back, as an identity for themselves. Not an identity of hatred, but one of self-assertion.
Not a minority by any means. And I although I don't consider Jimmy Mac all that scholarly, it seems even he has softened in ways.
If you are defensive, you don't have a sense of humor.
PC crap goes both ways.
The biggest problem with big-city Yankees is they couldn't grow roots where the sewage runs above ground.
The author is a male. Guess you didn't read it.
The big lie is that the North was fighting to free the slaves.
Yea Right. You need a history book junior.
The Union army was still vastly Anglo and Protestant. Of the entire Union Army during the nearly 5 year war only 150,000 of 2.7 million were Irish Catholics. The few Germans and Scandinavians were mostly Protestant.
Irish Catholics also fought for the South. Tens of thousands in an Army of about 1 million. South Louisiana Catholics fought for the South too....see Louisiana Zouaves for example. Sorry, but overall the war was still mostly Protestant Peckerwood against Protestant Peckerwood.
Now let's be fair and give Protestant's their due?
PS: where do you learn this stuff? I hope your folks didn't spring for Collegiate or Choate or Exeter for you to turn out like this...nothing personal.
We didn't loose. We're just reloading.
Archbishop Ryan High School for Boys.
The Protestants did most of the Fighting, but the Catholics did most of the Killing (and burning).
The big lie is that the Union isn't voluntary.
WOW! How original. Yet another elitist "I know it all" snob with no real intelligence writes another "those hicks in the south" piece.
YAWN! Wake me up for supper!
They did plenty of dying actually....see Mayre's Heights of Battle of Frederickburg.
The Pacific Rim is littered with 'enlightened, sensitive' peckerheads like this.
They get a few miles away from home and suddenly decide that the USA is just the worst place on the planet.
I personally think they adopt these rather stupid views due to a character flaw. They just want everyone in their insular little group to accept them, so they follow the group-think of anti-USA/GW Bush.
See it almost everyday. Its pretty damn funny. They work here for a while, boink the local women, make fools out of theirselves and then go back to the States.
And people wonder why people in some countries have bad feelings about the USA - look at what some of our 'ambassadors' are like...lol.
An interesting point. If South Carolina had taken the matter to the Supreme Court rather than opening fire on Ft. Sumter, the CSA might still be with us.
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