Miers' time on Dallas City Council provides some insight

Dallas Morning News ^ | 10/7/05 | DAVE LEVINTHAL

[RTINSC]

Of course it is..It would also be criminal.

[Kryptonite]

Think back to the roberts hearing. This is where I'm coming from.

I predicted long ago that the left would attempt to cast the next nominee, whoever it would be, in a bad light by comparing the next nominee to Roberts.

I never expected FReepers to do it. That's just low, and very revealing as to your motives.

Do we need FReepers who will assail this nominee for not being as good as the first nominee?

[Ken H]

a State government orders a State-funded law school to lower its LSAT and GPA minimums in order to achieve a more diverse student body. Would that be affirmative action?

Of course it is.

Didn't the city do the same thing with the fire department in this case?

[little jeremiah]

Since you're new here, maybe you aren't aware of the rules that a statement made on the open forum is open for comment by others, whether said statement was made to a specific person or not. If you want to comment to an individual without anyone else reading it or responding, that's what freepmail is for.

And I consider most of your comments nonsense, but hey - neither of us is banned (yet)! So carry on.

[paulat]

Do we need FReepers who will assail this nominee for not being as good as the first nominee?

We need ALL FReepers. That's why this is the United States of America...and that's why this is called FREE Republic.

There are many dictatorships I can direct you to across the globe where dissent is not allowed.

Jim Robinson's world is a shining testimony to stirring debate and a living, breating representative democracy.

[wardaddy]

i like women too...particularly my maternal grandmother

wife and 2 daughters (and 2 sons)

should we adjust weight and height for short or overweight men too....all other things being equal?

[RTINSC]

No..Changing height and weight requirements is different, in my opinion. I do not think the standards of the job should be lowered, however, and women should be able to compete. I am against discrimination as well as quotas and other forms of affirmative action programs, especially in education where standards are lowered for racial, social or economic reasons. But, if a woman at 5'5" can compete with a man 5"7' and meet the same requirements, I am not opposed to either getting the job as a fireman or whatever.

[politicket]

if a woman can pass the test that men pass, she should be able to work

In theory, I would agree with you.

However, the problem rests with the men in that scenario. Let's say that you have a group of 10 firefighters that go out to fight a major inferno (8 men and 2 women). All of them have passed the same level of "fitness" (Note: this would take a pretty large women with extraordinary strength and stamina).

These ten firefighters go into the building to knock down the flames (5 teams of two). The men that are paired with a woman will not only be focused on their direct job - they will also be focused on doing EVERYTHING in their power to protect the women. That ends up taking away some of their ability to combat the immediate situation with all of their abilities.

Another problem situation is that women are much more emotional than men (this is not a negative in everyday life - it's what makes them such fantastic nurturers). Men, in contrast, are more "brute force" with little or no emotion. This is very handy when tackling dangerous situations.

Man are protectors. It is not good to mix the sexes in combat and/or emergency situations.

[Kryptonite]

Jim Robinson's world has it limits. Attempting to discredit this nominee with comparisons to the first nominee crosses the line.

[RTINSC]

No..Neither should we change age requirements. If you are too short or too fat, you don't qualify. That's why there are qualifications for jobs. Does your maternal grandmother want to be a firewoman?

[RTINSC]

Free Republic is a forum for discussion of conservative issues and ideas. It is not a debating society.

[politicket]

Why don't you quit bothering Jim with your rants. Nobody has said anything that is "over the line".

Quit being so insecure. If you can't support your position well, then maybe it isn't worth being supported.

[paulat]

Thanks for the input, newbie!!!

[Kryptonite]

Why don't you quit bothering Jim with your rants

Jim's never asked me to do so.

Nobody has said anything that is "over the line".

Well, I did, and it is.

No FReeper should discredit Miers for not being as good as Roberts.

[politicket]

Changing the admission standards does no such thing.

Your logic fails the test.

By changing the admission standards you are de facto giving preference to a particular sex. You are "tilting" the scales - so to speak - so that women have an "opportunity" to qualify.

I will also guarantee you that the fire department was forced into changing their policy and threatened with the loss of particular funds if they didn't. The almighty dollar is what ultimately caused the change in policy.

Women should not be firefighters - period...

[Kryptonite]

Oops. I didn't but bunny did.

Attempting to discredit Miers by comparing her to Bush's first nominee is over the line.

[politicket]

No FReeper should discredit Miers for not being as good as Roberts.

I think that Robert's will fall along the lines of Sandra Day O'Connor in his judicial temperament. If Miers is not as good as Roberts in that regard then we are all in trouble.

Miers was a very poor choice. She has obviously being "working through" important areas in her life during the last decade (which is good), but we have absolutely no idea where she is on her path.

Bush could have selected a known conservative, but he decided to get "cute" politically. That shows irresponsibility on his part and a lack of judgment and presidential leadership (and I voted for the guy).

[RTINSC]

I appreciate and note your concern. What does that mean?

[paulat]

I appreciate and note your concern. What does that mean?

I was thanking you for your input...acknowledging that conservatives can disagree and discuss the issues!

...refreshing in someone so new to the site!!