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Teen dad profiled in People mag is killed
UPI ^ | 11/21/2005

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:20:33 AM PST by ncountylee

PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- An 18-year-old single father whose struggle raising his toddler daughter was featured in People magazine has been killed in Philadelphia.

Terrell Pough was shot in the head on his way home from work Thursday night and later died at Temple University Hospital, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

Police said they have no suspects but do have a possible lead. No further details of the slaying were released.

The August issue of People profiled Pough, who worked as the night manger at a local restaurant while attending school full-time and raising his daughter, Diamond, who will be 2 on Nov. 27.

"She's what I work for, what I live for, why I wake up," he told People. "She's everything."

Diamond, who had full-custody of his daughter, had planned to work in construction after graduating next June.

"If something ever happens to me, no one can ever tell her that her dad didn't take care of her," he told People.


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To: pollyannaish
I suggest we wait until we find out more about what lead to his death. What if we find out that he was still involved in nefarious activities even while putting on a front for doing the right thing?

I will wait until we know more.

181 posted on 11/22/2005 10:09:11 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: flada
Yep, married people never get killed leaving behind orphans.

It happens at a much lower rate.

182 posted on 11/22/2005 10:09:59 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Abathar
He made a mistake, but he was man about it and did the right thing. He was working, going to school and trying to give his daughter the best life he could. I wish more young fathers would be this dedicated to their children.

BTTT. Well said. My prayers and sympathy for this young man and his daughter, who has lost an hardworking and dedicated father.

183 posted on 11/22/2005 10:13:56 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: yellowdoghunter
Fair enough.

I just know, that as a Christian, I am blessed to have the blood of Christ cover the many, many mistakes I have made in my life.

I do not deserve it. But because I know that, I will do all I can not to repeat them.

If I had been tossed out of the boat the first time I wasn't perfect, well...why bother after that?

I often wonder how many of us would feel ticked off if in the end, we discover Bill Clinton is in heaven. Jonah and the story of Ninevah are never too far from our hearts, no matter how hard we try. Or the story of the prodigal son, especially as it relates to the older son who did the right thing, day in and day out.

I struggle with this often myself, and force myself to pray for my enemies, even when I don't feel like it. But that does not have ANYTHING to do with calling sin by its right name.

184 posted on 11/22/2005 10:15:04 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: mlc9852
There is more to this story and it will come out. I pray this child finds a loving, stable, two-parent home in which to be raised.

I hope this child has someone willing to tell her what is right and what is wrong. I hope those people in her life will feel that they can judge and tell her what is right and what is wrong.

My sympathies go out to this young man, it is a tragedy when anyone is killed. I hope he knew God and Jesus.

I do applaud the young man for appearing to try to better himself but like I said I would rather wait and hear what the police say before I laud him as a hero to all generations!

185 posted on 11/22/2005 10:15:09 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: ncountylee

I saw that story, too, a great story, an example to those around him. It's terrible, a tragedy, I can hardly believe it. My thoughts and prayers are with his little daughter and his family.


186 posted on 11/22/2005 10:16:47 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: yellowdoghunter
I suggest we wait until we find out more about what lead to his death.

And what then? What happens if nothing comes out? He was walking on his way home from work. In some neighborhoods that may be enough to get shot right there. What exactly are you waiting for?

Why is it you would condemn this gentleman with no evidence or reason to do so? What happened to the precept of innocent until proven guilty?

187 posted on 11/22/2005 10:21:06 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: SZonian

I agree.

I read that People magazine article and if I recall correctly the young man and his grandmother went to court to get custody of his daughter after the child's mother was proved an unfit parent.

Many young men from welfare backgrounds would much prefer that the mothers of their children either abort or raise the children, allowing the young men to run around and continue their self-destructive lifestyles. This guy at least stepped up to the plate and did what was right.

Yes, he made a mistage by having a child young and out of wedlock, but he certainly seemed devoted to his daughter and he worked hard to make a better future for the two of them. It is a shame that the little girl has lost her dad.


188 posted on 11/22/2005 10:26:20 AM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: billbears
Don't lie about what I have said.

Let us wait for the facts.

189 posted on 11/22/2005 10:30:09 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: GatorGirl

"So he deserved to die?"

Maybe, maybe not. I do not know enough about the circumstances of his death to make that call. He did father a child when he was sixteen, not married to the woman, and unemployed. I find that reprehensible and that was what I was commenting upon.


190 posted on 11/22/2005 10:30:40 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: ncountylee

I must have missed the newsletter.

Is the word of the day "nefarious"?


191 posted on 11/22/2005 10:31:12 AM PST by Woman on Caroline Street (Go sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
Why should we wait for more information? Did he not already take responsibility for his actions? Are you hoping that they can find some (more then he confessed to) dirt on him so you can rationalize the ill will you have shown?

I too wish the child had a stable two-parent home. As long as I'm wishing, I'll further wish that she had a stable home with two parents that loved her instead of just the one, but regardless of either of us wishing that was not how it turned out. The young man made the best of a bad situation that he placed himself in. You don't know his heart or his relationship with god. You don't know enough to sit in judgment of his life other then this one mistake. You take that mistake and loudly proclaim his sin while ignoring his hard work to rectify that mistake. Then you claim a mantle of morality as if what you had done was the correct thing to do and had any benefit whatsoever. Yes he sinned in having sex out of wedlock. I have sinned thus...Do you wish to castigate me? I further suggest that you have sinned unless you are the second perfect person born on earth. Do you wish others to focus on your sins rather then the work you have done to resolve those sins? Would you wish a petty human who only looked at your sins to sit on the throne of judgment when your time has come or would you wish for G_d, who knows your heart, to sit in judgment?
192 posted on 11/22/2005 10:31:33 AM PST by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: Woman on Caroline Street

Yes, you missed the newsletter.


193 posted on 11/22/2005 10:33:07 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Durus
Please don't lie about what I have said.

Let us wait for all the facts to come out.

My prayers are with this little girl. I hope she finds a loving, stable, two-parent home to be raised in.

I hope someone is willing to judge and tell her that certain things are wrong and certain things are right.

194 posted on 11/22/2005 10:34:43 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I haven't 'lied' about what you said. Your own words bear out what you think about this gentleman and his situation


195 posted on 11/22/2005 10:36:43 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
My words convey that I wish things had been different and that this type of behavior should not be glorified.

Like I said, don't lie about what I have said.

196 posted on 11/22/2005 10:40:00 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: cicero's_son
I'm fine with judging. As I said, I judge you to be a first rate a**clown.

Pathetic. This whole discussion was started because of some so called Christian wagging his finger at this poor father who was living with his admitted sin and making the best out of it for him and his daughter.

Its first rate assclown to demonize me for not condemning him post mortem. It is an embarassment to the teaching of Christ to sit here and focus on this man's errors instead of the positive he made of the sin and being a positive role model for men who have made similiar sins. Is it your request this mans drive to be a better man, provide for this child and give hope to a more successful family or would you rather him brushed under a rug as an embarassment to the human race? As a Christian, I can find far worse things than what this man has done. He isnt a bad man and he isnt the root of the downfall or morals in our society.

Thump your Bible at a single father doing the admirable thing of raising a child by himself. Just make sure you have a valid reason at judgement day besides "we dont throw the first stone enough anymore" (a line opposite of what Christ taught).

If you want to wag your finger at kids, fine. Can you at least wait until the body is in the ground before expressing your perfection to everyone?

Im totally and absolutely embarrased at the showing im seeing at some people here.

Our society isnt going down the tubes because of less people like you who cast first stones. Its rediculous to even argue this anymore... Im through. Its hard enough to defend Christianity when people align me with freaks who run around hitting people in the head with a 10 lb Bible but dont hit it on their own head first.

197 posted on 11/22/2005 10:42:14 AM PST by smith288 (Peace at all cost makes for tyranny free of charge...)
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To: smith288

Its hard enough to defend Christianity when people align me with freaks who run around hitting people in the head with a 10 lb Bible but dont hit it on their own head first.



You've given me a very interesting visual :)


198 posted on 11/22/2005 10:44:30 AM PST by Okies love Dubya 2 ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." G.K.Chesterton)
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To: billbears; yellowdoghunter
Why is it you would condemn this gentleman with no evidence or reason to do so?

Because that's what gets her off. She does it on almost any story where somebody she considers beneath her is involved; she's one of the very first people on FR that condemened Harriet Miers, claiming that there was something "wrong" with a person who isn't married and they therefore shouldn't be allowed to serve; that was in the same post where she insinuated she was more than likely a lesbian.

What happened to the precept of innocent until proven guilty?

With this poster, that concept never enters into the conversation so long as she can act morally superior.

199 posted on 11/22/2005 10:45:10 AM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: yellowdoghunter
this type of behavior should not be glorified.

Oh heck no. We can't glorify the behavior of someone picking themselves up, getting a job, and working through what has to be one of the worst situations an 18 year old could find themselves in. Not a rags to riches story but definitely one that the gentleman didn't rely on the government but instead on himself. We definitely can't glorify someone that found themselves in a bad situation and decided to depend on himself, a self made man if you will, as our ancestors did.

And God knows our ancestors were all 'right thinking' individuals that never did anything that society would look down upon from its collective turned up nose. No, they were all married folk that walked the straight and narrow.

200 posted on 11/22/2005 10:46:31 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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