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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

Mirecki hospitalized after beating

By Ron Knox, Eric Weslander (Contact)

Originally published 05:37 p.m., December 5, 2005 Updated 06:31 p.m., December 5, 2005

Douglas County sheriff’s deputies are investigating the reported beating of a Kansas University professor who gained recent notoriety for his Internet tirades against Christian fundamentalists.

Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki reported he was beaten by two men about 6:40 a.m. today on a roadside in rural Douglas County. In a series of interviews late this afternoon, Mirecki said the men who beat him were making references to the controversy that has propelled him into the headlines in recent weeks. Mirecki

Mirecki

“I didn’t know them, but I’m sure they knew me,” he said.

Mirecki said he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.

“I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind,” he said. “They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.”

He said the men beat him about the upper body with their fists, and he said he thinks they struck him with a metal object. He was treated and released at Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

“I’m mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots,” he said.

Douglas County Sheriff’s Officials are classifying the case as an aggravated battery. They wouldn’t say exactly where the incident happened, citing the ongoing investigation

The sheriff’s department is looking for the suspects, described as two white males between ages 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves, and both wearing jeans. They were last seen in a large pickup truck.

Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 843-TIPS or the sheriff’s office at 841-0007.

Mirecki recently wrote online that he planned to teach intelligent design as mythology in an upcoming course. He wrote it would be a “nice slap” in the “big fat face” of fundamentalists.

The remarks caused an uproar, Mirecki apologized, and KU announced last week the class would be canceled.


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To: AmishDude

Good post and well said.


501 posted on 12/06/2005 3:14:01 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Is this an acceptable post here? I'm asking in all sincerity.

Guitarman, you just re-posted it pal.

502 posted on 12/06/2005 3:14:39 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Will_Zurmacht
Must have been Behe and Dembski dressed in Bubba.

Color me dubious but if he did get a beating the perps go to jail.

503 posted on 12/06/2005 3:14:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: AmishDude
I can't feel sorry for the guy

Of course you can't.

504 posted on 12/06/2005 3:16:16 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

If we all had your talent for analyzing the contents of everyones, minds and souls,and determining how they would react under all circumstances and conditions,within mere seconds of reading only a few statements from them, some given tongue in cheek, we mere mortals could remain as aloof and analytical as yourself.

When you do behold that pale horse, I hope you don't discover that your infallable wisdom isn't as infallable as you believe it to be.



505 posted on 12/06/2005 3:16:37 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: kimosabe31

Yeah, I did, to the admin so they could look at it. It was a disgusting example of the worst stereotypes people have of conservatives. You should be (but aren't) ashamed.


506 posted on 12/06/2005 3:16:41 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Fester Chugabrew
(shrug)--They give no infinitesimal hoot about the poor schlub or the beating, if there was a beating. This is an opportunity for the left to try to throw the religious on the defensive--and try to get them chipped away from the GOP.

The agenda: try to alienate the GOP pol from the religious. Then alienate the religious from the GOP pol. GOP pol goes down in defeat (particularly if he's a vulnerable Repub, like, say--Santorum, maybe?) and the Dems get their victory--a majority DNC Senate.

It's about politics--and the internet. It's been going on since Compuserve days.

Split only a few votes off the GOP, and the Dems are back in power.

507 posted on 12/06/2005 3:16:55 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: kimosabe31

So, have you killed any abortionists, or are you the sort who's too cowardly to do your own dirty work?


508 posted on 12/06/2005 3:17:06 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: rock58seg

LOL. Had not thought about that but you are right.


509 posted on 12/06/2005 3:17:46 PM PST by miele man
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Well, it's folks like you that have convinced me to be a born-again pagan.


510 posted on 12/06/2005 3:18:38 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Right Wing Professor
What are you, Dan Rather?

If you're going to attempt to smear me by quoting a brief snippet of a mammoth post at the end of this thread so that people will react only to the snippet, at least quote the whole sentence:

I can't feel sorry for the guy, because even if it all happened exactly the way he said, including the vague "he thinks they struck him with a metal object" he's essentially OK, if a little shaken.

511 posted on 12/06/2005 3:21:01 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

A fine prayer indeed, for a young man. In my case, old age beat him to it. I still have my memories though.


512 posted on 12/06/2005 3:21:34 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: AmishDude

I really don't care about your 'because'. I am as skeptical as you are about the incident, and have said so. However, if it happened as he said it did, then it's appalling. This is not Iran; nobody deserves to be beaten by religious goons because somehow he's offended them.


513 posted on 12/06/2005 3:25:24 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: spinestein
This post has some interesting comments by Mirecki.
When told that some people were questioning the truth of his report, Mirecki fired back.

“The right wing wants blood, period. They’re not going to stop until they see blood. They’re not into anything else,” he said. “Whatever I do, whatever I say, they don’t believe anything because that’s the way they are... I know what happened. I got the hell beat out of me. They can say what they want.”
Methinks he doth protest too much.
514 posted on 12/06/2005 3:26:55 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"But, hey...I'm sure that if you'd been there when Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," you'd have had that rock downrange in under a second."

This is a bit off topic, but since that is my tagline. . . we do need to finish the scripute.

It ends with Jesus picking the adulteress up, then saying, "Now go and sin no more."

It's forgiveness of sin. It's not a license to sin.


515 posted on 12/06/2005 3:27:13 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
OK, so how many abortionists have you killed?

Is that really the issue PaleHorse OR is it that in polite society where everyone buries his/her head in the sand to keep out all unpleasantness, views like those I expressed above are unacceptible?

516 posted on 12/06/2005 3:27:39 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: MeanWestTexan
Just please, don't confuse Creationist with Christians.

Of course not, there are Moslem Creationists, even hired by the Kansas Conservatives.

Perhaps you should also tell the Creationists that evolution isn't atheism, either. Else your comments ring hollow.

517 posted on 12/06/2005 3:27:42 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: spinestein

I agree with you.


518 posted on 12/06/2005 3:28:01 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

"Perhaps you should also tell the Creationists that evolution isn't atheism, either. Else your comments ring hollow."

Oh, I do so tell them, generally when I state that I, an engineer and geologist and a Christian, and fully accept that God created the universe, its laws, and created man via evolution


519 posted on 12/06/2005 3:31:21 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Right Wing Professor
I really don't care about your 'because'. I am as skeptical as you are about the incident, and have said so.

Actually, you are not. You are willing to entertain what he says at face value. I am not.

However, if it happened as he said it did, then it's appalling.

See? There you go again.

:)

The fact is, he's fine. I only care about the perpetrators. If he'd had some actual damage -- broken bones, trauma, abrasions, a boo boo -- I'd actually give him some thought. But the perpetrator(s) are all that matters. My ire is saved for them (him). No matter who they (he) are (is). Whether they are Mr. (Dr.) Smith or somebody else.

520 posted on 12/06/2005 3:32:03 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

We don't have a clue they were either conservatives or Christians, and neither does anyone else. So what have we to be ashamed of pray tell.


521 posted on 12/06/2005 3:33:49 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: AmishDude
You are willing to entertain what he says at face value. I am not.

My bad. I thought you were keeping an open mind. But you're not skeptical. You've discounted what he said, because of his views.

If he'd had some actual damage -- broken bones, trauma, abrasions, a boo boo -- I'd actually give him some thought.

Reports say he has bruises, contusions, and a broken tooth.

522 posted on 12/06/2005 3:35:54 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

There you go again. You pretend to know more about me than I know about my self, yet I have mere suspicions as to your qualities, motivation and faults.


523 posted on 12/06/2005 3:45:07 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
My bad. I thought you were keeping an open mind. But you're not skeptical. You've discounted what he said, because of his views.

I won't point out the irony to you.

I gave a list of perfectly good reasons why I consider him an uncredible source.

Reports say he has bruises, contusions, and a broken tooth.

Not this article. Read it. No mention of the tooth. In fact, in this article, the quotes have him downplaying his injuries. Interestingly, I have experience with a chipped tooth. Experienced it playing racquetball. Had to have it bonded. I got a few bruises from that game too, although the tooth resulted from my own racquet. True story.

524 posted on 12/06/2005 3:45:24 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Perhaps you should also tell the Creationists that evolution isn't atheism . . .

Any discipline that ipso facto declares God to be outside of consideration is by definition atheistic. What's wrong with being an atheist?

525 posted on 12/06/2005 3:46:09 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Post number 461, which I haven't seen YOU object to yet.
Why not?


526 posted on 12/06/2005 3:50:18 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: AmishDude
Not this article. Read it. No mention of the tooth.

This one did. Also that he had X-rays and a CAT scan. Now that could be untrue, but it's so easily checked with the hospital I doubt it is.

And why you think anyone is interested in your racketball injuries is beyond me.

527 posted on 12/06/2005 3:53:51 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Post number 461, which I haven't seen YOU object to yet. Why not?

Probably because he posted this (w.r.t. a photo of Mirecki) in 351

A face almost everyone would love to stick a fist in.

528 posted on 12/06/2005 3:55:42 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
" Probably because he posted this (w.r.t. a photo of Mirecki) in 351

A face almost everyone would love to stick a fist in. "

Missed that one. You may be on to something. lol
529 posted on 12/06/2005 3:59:53 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: kimosabe31

"Is that really the issue PaleHorse OR is it that in polite society where everyone buries his/her head in the sand to keep out all unpleasantness, views like those I expressed above are unacceptible?"

Just answer the question. How many abortionists have YOU killed? If that answer is "zero," why do you expect others to do YOUR dirty work for you?


530 posted on 12/06/2005 4:01:25 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: F.J. Mitchell
You know, this Mirieki fellow does have rather a sappy expression on his face....it does irritate, doesn't it?

Aren't they laying it on thick? Boohoo. On IM, I bet they're cracking each other up over their outpourings of "grief " over this alleged episode.

531 posted on 12/06/2005 4:02:33 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
They give no infinitesimal hoot about the poor schlub or the beating . . .

They demonstrate a trumped up, faux indignation aimed at a wishful caricature of Christianity. Some folks long to be hated just to demonstrate how "righteous" they are. You're right. They don't really care about this pugilized bubblehead. He's the perfect tool to sharpen their self-manufactured loathing.

I can tell you this: Had I stumbled upon two fellows pummeling one man my sympathy would be inclined toward the one at a disadvantage, regardless of any ideologies involved. I would like to see the perpetrators caught and punished accordingly.

On the other hand, those who consider existence to be nothing more than the product of unguided forces of nature have fairly well excluded themselves from credible moral commentary. They can beat their chests for someone else who cares. For them this incident is but another example of nature taking its course.

532 posted on 12/06/2005 4:05:21 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Right Wing Professor
I just thought that it was interesting that my r-ball injury was (a) self-inflicted, (b) I walked away from it under my own power, and (c) it didn't make the national news.

I'm reading that article now. Interesting contradictions. In the Kansan story, it is reported that the metal object was for certain and that they hit him "for about one minute". According to this article, the fists were certain and the metal object is only a possibility.

In the Kansan article, he apparently pulled over to let them pass but then was the first to get out of his car.

The X-ray and CAT scan reportage were not attributed to the prof. I'm sure he got them. He "said he suffered a broken tooth". This is an interesting use of phrase. Shouldn't it have been obvious to the reporter? Could have been a phone interview, I suppose.

"Mirecki said he was taking a long, pre-dawn drive in the country to clear his mind in wake of the recent controversy and was planning to end his drive by stopping at a restaurant for breakfast."
This is not adding up. Remember, these thugs knew who he was. How? Does he have a sign on his car? They followed him and he just happened to want to take a drive that would take him out of town that day. To clear his head. At 6:40am. You clear your head at the end of the day, not after a refreshing sleep. Now he pulls over to let them pass. Fine. Then he gets out of his car. He gets out. I don't know where you live, RWP, but in Lawrence, Kansas today, right now, the wind chill is three degrees Farenheit and was even colder yesterday. Nobody is just getting out of their car. If it were me and the tailgaters didn't zoom ahead, I'd be annoyed and I'd take off. This is not adding up.

Thank you for linking to that article.

533 posted on 12/06/2005 4:10:25 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
re: They demonstrate a trumped up, faux indignation aimed at a wishful caricature of Christianity.)))

Hoi, a fifth of pithy! A wishful charicature...but why do they wish it?

534 posted on 12/06/2005 4:12:51 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

293?

535 posted on 12/06/2005 4:18:53 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Is it alright with you that professors set up classes to ridicule other people's belief's and then call it a chance to give them a slap in the "big fat face?" Why the silence over this a$$hole's actions? Do you sense any kind of cause and effect present between his actions and the consequences? If you set up a class like that would you expect accolades?

Your blindness in this case likely extends to other blindnesses.


536 posted on 12/06/2005 4:23:45 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Speaking only for myself, Mirecki was an ass. He did apologize, but even if he hadn't, it still doesn't deserve violence in response.


537 posted on 12/06/2005 4:25:33 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Mamzelle
You know maybe there is something to that observation you made the other day about whats going on here.

I hope you saved those links or even the web pages in total.

Wolf
538 posted on 12/06/2005 4:25:41 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: AmishDude
This is not adding up. Remember, these thugs knew who he was. How? Does he have a sign on his car

He might well have a bumper sticker or two. Given his outspoken opinions, I wouldn't be surprised.

Lots of guys out around dawn in pickups at the moment. It's hunting season; I get up before dawn and hear the shots outside. Lots of guys with a little gasoline in their bellies too, even at 6:30 a.m.. They see some pinko driving slowly, tailgate him, he pulls over, they stop for a little rumble, recognize him (his picture's been on the paper and on TV in Kansas), maybe he gives them some lip, and they work him over a bit.

Turns out the best breakfast place in Lawrence is on the south side of town, so that adds up, too. Lawrence isn't that big a place.

It was -5 F this morning when I went out to feed the birds. You live around here, you get used to it.

539 posted on 12/06/2005 4:26:27 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: RunningWolf

Be sure to ask her about astronauts, too. LOL.


540 posted on 12/06/2005 4:28:27 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; All

I hadn't read # 461 until now, but I still can't object to it. because in a rational world it makes sense.

Who among us, if we came upon a group of blood thirsty thugs bashing the brains out of 50 million puppies, kittens or baby chickens on the sidewalk, would not stop the slaughter anyway we could??

This very scenerio has taken place to the tune of 50 million baby humans in abortitoriums, for the past 30 years, while we sit on our hands and whine like a bunch of helpless ninnies.

You, I and almost everyone else offended and repulsed by this slaughter are too much into self preservation to sacrifice our lives for the lives of these little ones.

I suspect that when we stand before God on judgement day, even more than the heartless baby butchers,we will have to explain why we considered our own cowardly lives and comforts more valuable than the lives of the little ones who we allowed to be murdered, without doing a damn thing to stop it.

I believe that God will be more merciful to those who sacrificed their mortal lives in feeble attempts to destroy those evil places and the evil people that occupied them, than he will to us.

Though I myself am a coward,I respect those heroes who are portrayed as evil, by the very ones who enable the true evil to continue.


541 posted on 12/06/2005 4:30:42 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: RunningWolf
I've been known to poke fun at astronauts, some think that's a horrifying thing rather than a chat-issue and political irrelevancy--but astronauts are not an important GOP constituency, are they, the way conservative Christians are?

Funny how the ones these guys hate most are the ones the GOP badly needs--if they could splinter off a few votes, they'd get their majority in the Senate.

542 posted on 12/06/2005 4:32:39 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Speaking only for myself, Mirecki was an ass. He did apologize, but even if he hadn't, it still doesn't deserve violence in response.

Change "was" to is and we have a contract.

543 posted on 12/06/2005 4:32:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"I hadn't read # 461 until now, but I still can't object to it. because in a rational world it makes sense. "

You sir, need help.


544 posted on 12/06/2005 4:33:02 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Mamzelle
I have the same suspicion at times, a greater agenda going on.
545 posted on 12/06/2005 4:33:26 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: jwalsh07

Deal.


546 posted on 12/06/2005 4:34:34 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Right Wing Professor; F.J. Mitchell

You were right. He ( F.J. Mitchell) thought that post 461 was just peachy. Very telling.


547 posted on 12/06/2005 4:36:01 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor
He might well have a bumper sticker or two. Given his outspoken opinions, I wouldn't be surprised.

Don't get me wrong, I thought about it, too. But they knew who he was. Not that he was some sort of pinko professor guy from Larrytown, but he was the guy.

he pulls over, they stop for a little rumble, recognize him (his picture's been on the paper and on TV in Kansas),

So was the prof stopping over for a little rumble, too?

Turns out the best breakfast place in Lawrence is on the south side of town, so that adds up, too. Lawrence isn't that big a place.

Which made me wonder why he went so far away. Again, that was to clear his head. Sorry, too many coin flips that have to all turn up heads.

548 posted on 12/06/2005 4:40:58 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: highball
It just goes to show ya that in this country we have free speech but you still have to pay for the consequences.

If violence is the consequence of speech, then it isn't "free." The Colonists had that "freedom" under the king.

Let me clarify my statement meant as /sarc. One can open their mouth and say whatever they want to say. They have the right in this country to do so, but beware, whatever one says can have unexpected consequences that one did not anticipate nor can one control.

Example: If you walk up to a biker and tell him that his lady is one butt ugly woman, you have every right in this country to voice that opinion, but you may not have thought through the unexpected consequences when the biker proceeds to rearrange your face. It has nothing to do with having the rights to free speech. It has everthing to do with basic human interaction, ergo, my original statement was intended to point out the irony that you have rights of free speech, but if some other person gets offended by what you said, then you may pay in the end by receiving an unexpected result from voicing your free speech. You can choose your actions, but you cannot choose the consequences. That's all.

549 posted on 12/06/2005 4:41:21 PM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm gonna boogie oogie woogie til I just can't boogie no more..............)
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To: Mamzelle
The agenda: try to alienate the GOP pol from the religious. Then alienate the religious from the GOP pol. GOP pol goes down in defeat (particularly if he's a vulnerable Repub, like, say--Santorum, maybe?) and the Dems get their victory--a majority DNC Senate.

It's about politics--and the internet. It's been going on since Compuserve days.

Split only a few votes off the GOP, and the Dems are back in power.



I hear you

Whether you have poked fun at a topic is irrelevant to this attempt of splintering off the GOP that may in fact be going on here. That is a smokescreen of course.

Lord help us if it succeeds and the Dems are back in power.

Wolf
550 posted on 12/06/2005 4:41:28 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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