Skip to comments.Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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Hope you're right, because to think that someone would defend Christianity with violence like this is a stupid thing to do.
I think half the guys on the wall are retreads. Oh well, one cannot discriminate, especially when one lacks evidence...
"Hope you're right, because to think that someone would defend Christianity with violence like this is a stupid thing to do."
Think of how stupid the average person you meet out there is.
Now realize that about half of them are even more stupid than that.
I see you hold your fellow man in high esteem. Doubtless you are at the top of the heap where intelligence, wisdom and general virtue are concerned. May I borrow your cincture?
I say it's a phony incident if you're keeping track.
Come on, this is the First Church of Free Republic! The new creed: "Every knee shall bow, even if we have to break 'em ourselves..."
My apologies. Where are the knee-capping lessons being taught? I missed that part of the services on Sunday.
"My apologies. Where are the knee-capping lessons being taught? I missed that part of the services on Sunday."
Just down the hall from the inter-confessional flame wars, behind the snake-handling room, but before you get to the coffee & doughnuts.
It's called sarcasm, as should be obvious as the post responded to was clearly sarcastic, as well.
"Do you mean to tell me that as a Christian, you would not consider blowing up or otherwise killing mass murdering abortionist doctors in order to save the lives of innocent unborn infants?"
OK, so how many abortionists have you killed?
Furball...great headlines but I think our learned "head of dept" professor self inflicted his damage in order to stage yet another attempt darwinian martyrdom.
Bubblehead Mirecki does not deserve to be lowered to the level of genocidal tyrants, abortionists, and the like. Whackjobs like him ought simply to be left to stew in their terpitude. Harmless, hapless "educator."
His words about a "slap in the big fat face?" They were only rhetoric. They were metaphorical in the strictest sense and should not be taken out of context. Besides, he would never be caught wearing a red baseball cap, wearing wool gloves, or driving a big pick-up truck. He's better than all those "fundies" out there.
I think the FBI should be asking him that.
Note that all these responses are supported by the "Moderate Creationists" by their silence.
"I referenced three "Christian" creationist FReepers, not bloggers."
It's all blogging, man. How does that exactly change my point? You found some idiots. Congratulations! Have a cookie.
Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
"The owner's servants came to him and said, 'Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?'
"'An enemy did this,' he replied.
"The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?'
"'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.'"
It's obviously not acceptable; I presume he is either a truly sick person or a plant from the Democratic Underground.
My response to such silliness is above.
Just please, don't confuse Creationist with Christians.
It's a bit like a Vehn (sp? Venn?) diagram. There may be some overlap, but not necessarily.
This Christian, for one, is disgusted by these idiots, regardless of whether this attack is real or faked.
But they did nothing to him that hasn't been advocated previously on FR, with the full knowledge of the moderators, and celebrated by our resident Christians.
Sorry you were assaulted, BTW. I hope they got the guys.
They are Christians-in-Name-Only.
Nary a one of them reads or understands the scripture.
One of many admonitions (by Christ, himself, no less), against such self-help "weeding" is above.
How did they know who he was?
Thanks for the kind words, RWP. They may have finally caught the buttpipes responsible for my assault, but not after they robbed a few other law-abiding citizens. I will further note that there are plenty of Christians on FR who I have become friends with and are in all likelihood reading this thread while reaching for the dramanine.
Well, I'll take your word for it, MWT. I'm just not in a very good mood with them right now.
I'm not going to argue the plausibility of his story. I'm agnostic about it. Some things about it struck me as odd initially, but I read the discussion among the locals on the Lawrence paper, and now they seem less odd. What annoys me is the reaction here.
Try talking your trash to a group from that Religion of peace you are trying to equate to Christianity, and you will quickly learn the difference. As if you don't already know the difference, of course.
How would you know what a Christian is? Maybe you could trade that broad brush in for something a little more accurate. Or is it wishful thinking that drvies you to paint all Christians as complicit in this unwarranted assault? You were so anxious to paint my sarcastic response as gloating, I seriously question your capacity to approach the subject with anything more than a vitriol as deep as the fools who pugilized this bubblehead. Maybe you could trade that broad brush for a red baseball cap and a pair of woolen gloves.
LOL! No sarcasm tag needed. But we do need a little assistance in figuring out which side the sarcasm is aimed at-or is it aimed in both directions?
I think his was a response to Post 461. Clearly an overbroad brush, but understandable.
I am a Christian. Some of the dumbest and most vile people I have met are Christians, too. They are in the most need of Christ, I say.
What is particularly sad about this event, is this reeks of a fake attack like the "they-spraypainted-my-car" treat given to us by that absurd leftist professor just a short time ago.
You weren't being sarcastic. And if you weren't human refuse, you'd have known it wasn't the time or the place.
Now bugger off; you're on my ignore list, and I'd like to keep you there.
However, there have been some posters on the 'other side' who have handles of recent vintage, and who seem to jump in when the cr*p starts hurling about.
Anytime I see over-the-top comments, they tend to be a dead giveaway ( libs can't restrain themselves ).
The Devil's best advocates are evil, idiot, Christians.
I tend to think it was a real attack by a couple overzealous fools.
Fake posters are a real possibility, I agree.
Indeed, I would be surprised if that was not the case for many of the most over-the-top posts we see.
"Try talking your trash to a group from that Religion of peace you are trying to equate to Christianity, and you will quickly learn the difference. As if you don't already know the difference, of course."
I don't see members of that other "religion of peace" crowing loudly about this, just some Christians.
But, hey...I'm sure that if you'd been there when Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," you'd have had that rock downrange in under a second.
Red cap already in place?
On the other hand, the pompous, self righteous, holier than thou Christians are the biggest turn off for unbelievers.
"I tend to think it was a real attack by a couple overzealous fools."
That is possible, too, and a full and fair investigation needs to be made.
Indeed, some of the fools I have seen here (and on creation/evolution) threads give credence to such a possibility.
Perhaps I am just hopeful, in that such an attack would be: (1) directly forbidden by Christ himself (scripture post is above), followed up by St. Peter (who admonishes all Christians to follow the law) and (2) counter-productive.
Well, I AM pompus, but holier-than-thou, I am not.
I follow St. Augestine's prayar, "Lord, make me chaste; but not just yet."
I should have read your tagline. Sorry, but it's difficult to follow a thread this long.
And, of course, there's the other side, who sought the gotcha moment including you yourself who intended to use this thread to make an enemies list.
It's certainly possible that two ordinary white church-going men in their 30's and 40's (huh?) figured out who he was, tailed him hoping he would pull over and then hoping he would get out of his car so that they could pummel him to within an inch of . . . well, having at least one hospital meal.
A slightly more likely scenario is that Phelps' gang stalked the guy and pulled this thing.
However, the probabilities are infinitesimal compared to the likelihood that the wounds are self-inflicted. Either directly or for-hire.
I base that on (1) what is known about his character (2) the fact that he didn't blame the perpetrators but attempted to blame all IDers right away (3) the perpetrators knew him and where to find him, but attempted to do their deed on a public (but rural) road (how far away from campus does he live, anyway?) (4) the perpetrators went to all this trouble and didn't really hurt him badly but then didn't smash up his car, either. I mean, if you really want to show the guy a lesson and you're a couple of thug a-holes with a "metal object", you leave the guy with at least two smashed windows. Somebody earlier mentioned a lost tooth, but this article only mentioned "bruises and sore spots".
I can't feel sorry for the guy, because even if it all happened exactly the way he said, including the vague "he thinks they struck him with a metal object" he's essentially OK, if a little shaken.
His reaction to this is creating a justifiable "Boy who cried `Redneck'" reaction by posters here and if it turns out to be 100% true, I'll save any sympathy for him and channel it into negative reaction towards the perpetrators.
I do it all the time too.
No harm, no foul.
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