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Mirecki hospitalized after beating (KU Relig. prof. who mocked religion)
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 12/05/05 | Ron Knox

Posted on 12/05/2005 8:13:08 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht

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To: Petronski

Grammar? Let's not start off too fast - get the lad a spell-checker to start with.


601 posted on 12/06/2005 6:25:58 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow (Sneering condescension.)
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To: Portagean

BawHAHAHAHA


602 posted on 12/06/2005 6:26:50 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"Do you support the crud he was attempting to remove?"

I'll take that as an affirmative, you do support the actions of Eric Rudolph. It worries me that a sociopath like you lives in the same state as me.
603 posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:16 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: F.J. Mitchell

You should read the Christ's Parable of the Weeds before contemplating murder.


604 posted on 12/06/2005 6:28:25 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Petronski

Seems you've tryed it tell your bowlegged!


605 posted on 12/06/2005 6:32:52 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Boazo

What the hell language is that? Form a sentence please.


606 posted on 12/06/2005 6:36:25 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

Petronski,You used to be alright,What happened? The newbie is
a douche bag pure and simple,and I'll leave it at that.


607 posted on 12/06/2005 6:37:00 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Boazo

I don't like your graphic at 92. I don't know the n00b, I only know the graphic at 92 is beneath us IMHO. I'll leave it at that.


608 posted on 12/06/2005 6:43:16 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

The man staged this whole thing. No one beat him up. The state police need to investigate it on the basis that it was a false report.


609 posted on 12/06/2005 6:54:53 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Boazo

How is that funny?

How do you spell Christianized without an 'H?'


610 posted on 12/06/2005 7:04:40 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

And I will take "your" comment as an affirmative. You do support the actions of the mass murderers, grown filthy rich from their crimes that Rudolph, took them to task over.

If respecting a person who sacrificed the rest of his young life for his actions against mass murderers, makes me a sociopath-it will be interesting indeed to hear what diagnosis defending the mass murderers, merits for my accuser.


611 posted on 12/06/2005 7:08:06 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"And I will take "your" comment as an affirmative."

You would be mistaken. I am against abortion.

"If respecting a person who sacrificed the rest of his young life for his actions against mass murderers, makes me a sociopath-it will be interesting indeed to hear what diagnosis defending the mass murderers, merits for my accuser."

Yes, you are a sociopath for defending the terrorist actions of Eric Rudolph.


612 posted on 12/06/2005 7:11:29 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Thank you, then I will wear the title, "Sociopath" with pride.


613 posted on 12/06/2005 7:18:54 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"Thank you, then I will wear the title, "Sociopath" with pride."

No doubt.


614 posted on 12/06/2005 7:19:22 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Okay. I will allow you the last slur.

Freegards


615 posted on 12/06/2005 7:21:26 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Petronski

How do you spell octogenarian with an a?


616 posted on 12/06/2005 7:36:18 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: OB1kNOb
Let me clarify my statement meant as /sarc. One can open their mouth and say whatever they want to say. They have the right in this country to do so, but beware, whatever one says can have unexpected consequences that one did not anticipate nor can one control.

And you're okay with that? Really? Fists as a response to speech?

It has nothing to do with having the rights to free speech. It has everthing to do with basic human interaction, ergo, my original statement was intended to point out the irony that you have rights of free speech, but if some other person gets offended by what you said, then you may pay in the end by receiving an unexpected result from voicing your free speech. You can choose your actions, but you cannot choose the consequences. That's all.

And the thug would be wrong, and he ought to spend a great deal of time behind bars.

Free speech means nothing if you think violence is an acceptable response to speech you don't like.

That kind of "free speech" isn't. It's sick. It's thuggery, and it has no place in a free society.

617 posted on 12/06/2005 7:58:53 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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Moderate Fundie placemarker


618 posted on 12/06/2005 8:06:31 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( the Wedge Document ... offers a message of hope for Muslims - Mustafa Akyol)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I'm sorry. Were you trying to illustrate a non-sequitur?


619 posted on 12/06/2005 8:11:01 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: highball
If the creationists don't, they're no better than the "moderate Muslims" who say they decry the violence but won't actually raise a voice to stop it.

Couple of differences here, though.

In the case of Muslim terrorists, they are picking random civilians--to KILL. And solely for not being Muslim. And then they post videos of the murder (sawing off of heads, anyone?) on the internet for the hapless victim's family to see. Or pin Muslim screeds to the victim's chest with the knife used to kill him.

And then they publically take credit.

In this case, you have a guy who was publically bragging about humiliating a certain subset of Christians.

Then he shows up with some wounds, a vague description, and alleging that Christians beat him up. This is of not much evidentiary value either way: there is a track record of all sorts of people from all different walks of life, faking assaults and attacks. No particular slur on Darwinists. But on the other hand, someone who has just been roughed up might not have known in advance what was coming, in order to pay especial attention to the make of the pickup truck, etc. So as far as that goes, it's a wash.

And in the meantime, you might note that if he WAS beat up, the perps did not videotape the beating, and did not issue public statements about "Dembski akhbar" or what ever.

Try a more reasoned approach rather than napalm--the thread will be a lot more civilized.

Cheers!

620 posted on 12/06/2005 8:31:13 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I see.

Interesting rationalization.

I am not convinced that it happened, but if it did, I expect a lot of crow to be eaten by those who are currently dancing in our virtual streets over this beating.


621 posted on 12/06/2005 8:37:20 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
But, hey...I'm sure that if you'd been there when Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone," you'd have had that rock downrange in under a second.

Given the vitriol evidenced on the crevo threads, it's more like:

Let he who has run out of stones commit the first sin.

Cheers!

622 posted on 12/06/2005 8:48:16 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
So, have you killed any abortionists, or are you the sort who's too cowardly to do your own dirty work?

Actually, if you think about it, the abortionists have prob'ly killed a considerable number of (would-have-been future) abortionists.

Occupation-based Darwin awards aplenty.

623 posted on 12/06/2005 8:51:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
It ends with Jesus picking the adulteress up, then saying, "Now go and sin no more."

Except in Bill Clinton's Revised EditionTM, it says
"Now go and sin some more"

Cheers!

624 posted on 12/06/2005 9:00:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
My wife told me today she's scared it's exactly the kind of thing I'd do. And living in this part of the country, you really don't expect violence.

May I respectfully suggest that you stay on Free Republic to exercise your Free-Speech-Rights-to-Flame-People-on-a-moment's-noticeTM?

From what I've seen of you on your blog, it doesn't seem like you'd do too well in a physcial altercation.

Unless of course you practice your Second Amendment rights, too ;-)

Cheers!

625 posted on 12/06/2005 9:06:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Whatever my case is, it's curable. Stupidity is a lifetime condition that only grows worse with age.

--reminiscent of the fine old W.C. Fields retort ending with "...but I'll be sober in the morning!"

Cheers!

626 posted on 12/06/2005 9:08:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: highball
Not a rationalization. I just don't have enough information to feel comfortable with a firm decision yet.

The old fashioned "I don't know."

Kind of in short supply on these threads...

Cheers!

627 posted on 12/06/2005 9:12:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
So what have we to be ashamed of pray tell.

You ought to be ashamed of those who endorse act.

628 posted on 12/06/2005 9:15:55 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: PatrickHenry

well...

can't say I dismiss this story, but...

can't say I don't have "what's the frequency, Kenneth" looping through my noggin upon reading it.


629 posted on 12/06/2005 9:53:11 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Will_Zurmacht

Can he tell just which version of the bible they thumped him with?


630 posted on 12/06/2005 10:39:41 PM PST by zeeba neighba (no crocs!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I don't think you have anything to worry about from us Christians, professor.

But if we were gone, and it was you vs. Islam, without us to defend Western Civilization, you might have some worries. You secularists are doing a pointedly lousy job of defending Western values in France, Canada, Holland, Sweden, and anyplace else Islam has taken root. You might think about the consequences of a society where it's atheism vs. Islam. Only a fool would bet against the Mullahs.


631 posted on 12/07/2005 2:12:00 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: highball; RadioAstronomer; Right Wing Professor
those who are currently dancing in our virtual streets over this beating.


632 posted on 12/07/2005 3:52:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: kimosabe31

"So why are we fighting a war on terror and not on abortion."

So what's stopping YOU from being the great big war hero, aside from the fact that, by your own publicly-expressed standard, you're a physical and moral coward?


633 posted on 12/07/2005 4:09:15 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I DO have a moral anchor . . .

Yeah. The same "moral anchor" that supports the establishment of university classes dedicated to the ridicule of other peoples beliefs. The same "moral anchor" that equates a light pummeling with terrorism.

Maybe if you'd pull that "moral anchor" out of your behind I'll loosen that vice grip on my head.

634 posted on 12/07/2005 4:32:40 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"The same "moral anchor" that equates a light pummeling with terrorism."

I think you need to reread post 461 before you make such idiotic statements. I am equating bombing abortion clinics and the other acts of Eric Rudolph with terrorism, because THAT is what they are. THAT is what the other creationist posters have been defending here, explicitly. How say you?
635 posted on 12/07/2005 5:30:10 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: puroresu
I don't think you have anything to worry about from us Christians, professor.

Not here. I think the people on this thread opining Mirecki was not beaten enough, or comparing him gleefully with the 'little queer' in Wyoming, or celebrating the life of Eric Rudolph (who, let's recall, also bombed Olympic Park and a gay disco), are gasbags who'd run like dye in a cheap shirt if they heard a car backfire.

But telling me the fire is a little cooler than the frying pan isn't very inviting, A colleague of mine in a University 100 miles south of mine man, and I stress the word, have been beaten by one of you lot for speaking out, however immaturely he did so. You'll pardon me if I make up my own mind whether y'all are threats.

636 posted on 12/07/2005 5:54:47 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I am equating bombing abortion clinics and the other acts of Eric Rudolph with terrorism . . .

You're bringing terrorism into a thread about some loon who got beat up. Why? You may be a master baiter, but I'm not taking the bait. At bottom you support professors who set up classes to ridicule the beliefs of others, and then think it odd that such a professor might suffer a little punishment at the hands of other fools. You further would like to paint all Christians as complicit in such foolery, which in turn makes you no different than this goofy professor, complicit in his attempts at ridiculing others, and complicit in his attempts at painting all Christians with the broad brush of terrorism.

Your chest-beating "disgust" is hollow and disgusting in itself.

637 posted on 12/07/2005 5:56:23 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"You're bringing terrorism into a thread about some loon who got beat up. Why?"

I didn't bring it up, someone else did. Learn to read, Fester.

"At bottom you support professors who set up classes to ridicule the beliefs of others, and then think it odd that such a professor might suffer a little punishment at the hands of other fools. You further would like to paint all Christians as complicit in such foolery, which in turn makes you no different than this goofy professor, complicit in his attempts at ridiculing others, and complicit in his attempts at painting all Christians with the broad brush of terrorism."

You're making yourself look even more foolish than normal, which is a feat in itself.

"Your chest-beating "disgust" is hollow and disgusting in itself."

Your inability to disavow the support of Eric Rudolph made by certain of your creationist buddies is disgusting.
638 posted on 12/07/2005 6:08:03 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor
A colleague of mine in a University 100 miles south of mine man, and I stress the word

I guess if you're going to stress the word, you should spell it right.

A colleague of mine in a University 100 miles south of mine may, and I stress the word

639 posted on 12/07/2005 6:09:56 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL! W.C. did have a way with words.


640 posted on 12/07/2005 6:48:42 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

"You ought to be ashamed of those who endorse the act."

And I am ashamed on those who endorse the act of abortion, as we all should be.


641 posted on 12/07/2005 6:52:03 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I didn't bring it up, someone else did.

Very well. You pursue the subject of terrorism in a thread involving a possible pummeling of a loon. You appear to support the establishment of university classes intended to ridicule the beliefs of others.

As for this Eric Rudolph you reference (who was it that brought his name up?), I do not know the man. You seem keen on everything about him. Do you support him?

642 posted on 12/07/2005 7:04:13 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: All
More info on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535627/posts

643 posted on 12/07/2005 7:05:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"Very well. You pursue the subject of terrorism in a thread involving a possible pummeling of a loon."

I DIDN'T BRING UP TERRORISM, someone else did. Learn to read.

"As for this Eric Rudolph you reference (who was it that brought his name up?), I do not know the man. You seem keen on everything about him. Do you support him?"

Have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years? Have you ever read a newspaper, watched the news, or listened to the radio? At any rate, a few of your creationist buddies know all about him and have no trouble saying they support his actions. He murdered an abortion doctor. He set off the bombs at the Atlanta Olympics. He is a terrorist. What do YOU have to say for your buddies here supporting his actions?


644 posted on 12/07/2005 7:20:47 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Don't you prefer to have evidence to support your delusion?

Because your tone is almost always vitriolic, insulting, and your initial statement was in full support of beating this guy up. You got called on it and made up some nonsense about it being sarcasm, but your initial statement was totally in character. I don't believe you because you are not honest.

645 posted on 12/07/2005 7:27:01 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Hacksaw
BTW, people who ally themselves with the communist ACLU in Kansas, Dover Pa, Georgia, etc and cheer the elections of democrat school boards shouldn't be making guilt by association arguments.

There is a difference between the ACLU joining the case and the Kansas school board seeking out an alliance with Islamic clerics because of their success in getting ID taught in fundamentalist Islamic schools.

Furthermore, I don't recall anybody cheering the election of democrats to the Dover school boards. IIRC, there was more jeering than cheering. They tried to cram religion down the throats of other people's kids and every one of them got beat at election time. That they got beat by democrats, well, that's what happens when republicans try to violate the first amendment.

646 posted on 12/07/2005 7:35:40 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph

Actually I misspoke, He didn't kill an abortion doctor, he killed a police officer at the clinic. Nice guy your friends are supporting.
647 posted on 12/07/2005 7:38:30 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: wyattearp
Furthermore, I don't recall anybody cheering the election of democrats to the Dover school boards

They were actually four Democrats and four Republicans. They ran on the Deomcrat ticket because the Republican ticket was all clogged up with creationists.

648 posted on 12/07/2005 7:42:54 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Nice guy your friends are supporting.

Would you please direct me toward some evidence that my friends are supporting this guy? Please provide specific details as to the nature of their support. Have they donated to his cause? Have they entered a plea in his defense? If you count a lack of condemnation as "support," then you have a problem understanding what constitutes support.

649 posted on 12/07/2005 7:51:50 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Right Wing Professor

Don't worry about the spelling. I make more than my share of typos!


650 posted on 12/07/2005 7:52:58 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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