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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Texas Eagle

"No. It was supposed to be a list of scientists who believed in God."

So? They didn't bring supernatural explanations into their theories.


361 posted on 12/17/2005 12:09:10 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Alter Kaker
I'm not saying there was no Jesus, just that there's no direct evidence outside of the Christian Bible.

Yes, you are trying to say just that.

I'm not saying there was no macro evolution, just that there's no direct evidence... it's a matter of faith.

I believe in a God that makes ther laws of physics, and can just as easily make the sun stand still, and the earth not fly apart! He speaks, and universes appear! He whispers, and man is banished from Eden... wherever that might be!

In the beginning, God...

362 posted on 12/17/2005 12:09:31 PM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
So, why did you include Newton and Bacon in as anti-Darwinians when they were dead long before the theory was formulated?

What difference does it make if they died long before Darwin? They believed in God and they were scientists.

363 posted on 12/17/2005 12:10:25 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Dimensio
" I thought that Pasteur didn't accept evolution -- but then, the only references I can find are creationist sites."

They only reference his opposition to spontaneous generation. This is supposed to mean he was against evolution.
364 posted on 12/17/2005 12:10:33 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: PatrickHenry
The park is centralized around the three-story main building that houses the admission office/bookstore, “Hands-on Science Center,” and park offices.

Wasn't there a lying troll around here at the beginning of the thread saying they had been there and it was just a kids playground in the backyard of a little three bedroom house?

365 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:03 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: XeniaSt
A Jewish Historian named Josephus.

Josephus was an ex-Jew, the passage mentioning Jesus was inserted much later by someone else.

366 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:11 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Texas Eagle

"What difference does it make if they died long before Darwin? They believed in God and they were scientists."

Most people who believe in evolution believe in God too. They don't feel it necessary to include supernatural forces in their explanations though.


367 posted on 12/17/2005 12:11:32 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I'm out till the evening. Later all!


368 posted on 12/17/2005 12:12:20 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Most people who believe in evolution believe in God too.

Golly! So do most creationists!

What are the odds???

369 posted on 12/17/2005 12:12:51 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Speaking of Einstein. Isn't he the one who said, "God does not roll dice with the universe."? Einstein was around after evolution was proclaimed wasn't he? And Einstein was a scientist wasn't he?

Einstein was referring to quantum mechanics when he said this. If you have the slightest evidence that Einstein questioned the theory of evolution I'd love to see it.

370 posted on 12/17/2005 12:13:01 PM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Most people who believe in evolution believe in God too. They don't feel it necessary to include supernatural forces in their explanations though.

Uhhhhhh. Do most people who believe in evolution who also believe in God believe God is a supernatural Being?

371 posted on 12/17/2005 12:13:44 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: wireman

"I wasn't referring specifically to that post. I am sorry if that wasn't clear."

"I was referring to maniacs like you in general. How's that?"

No, you were referring to that post since your response was to someone who was quoting my response.

And you're worse than a maniac - you're an egocentric egomaniac. You just won't admit that you agreed with the other poster that it was my quote, when in fact it was not, and now do not have the courtesy to admit to the error. Before agreeing with someone else's post, read all the relevant posts or you'll look like a fool. It will eat at your heart for the rest of your life not admitting to the error.


372 posted on 12/17/2005 12:13:54 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Texas Eagle
"Most people who believe in evolution believe in God too." Golly! So do most creationists! What are the odds???

Neat sidestep, but where does these leave the point of you proudly pointing at scientists who believe in God as some kind of argument against evolution?

373 posted on 12/17/2005 12:14:32 PM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Thatcherite
Einstein was referring to quantum mechanics when he said this.

Oh. Quantum mechanics isn't really science. My bad.

374 posted on 12/17/2005 12:14:40 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
XS> " Nominally Christians.

Surely not a follower of the Christ.

He who created the universe from nothing and told us how He did it."

CG>He didn't say how he did it.

342 posted on 12/17/2005 1:02:26 PM MST by CarolinaGuitarman

Try Genesis one and Gerald L. Schroeder

b'shem Y'shua

375 posted on 12/17/2005 12:15:10 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
They only reference his opposition to spontaneous generation.

I've actually seen a few sites state that he specifically rejected evolution. Unfortunately, I can't get anything more than "no" (in reponse to a supposed question about him accepting evolution) in terms of direct quotations. And one site I found used the term "evolutionism", automatically destroying any credibility that it could carry.
376 posted on 12/17/2005 12:15:27 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Texas Eagle
Uhhhhhh. Do most people who believe in evolution who also believe in God believe God is a supernatural Being?

Yes, you can believe in a supernatural God without believing that God is using supernatural forces to guide everything. Even you must believe in free will, for example.

377 posted on 12/17/2005 12:15:36 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Baraonda; wireman; shuckmaster

Baraonda. You apologised to me for your mistake in not clearly indicating where you had quoted. Aren't you man enough to apologise to wireman and shuckmaster too? This whole thread of the debate has arisen from your misposting, not any error on their part.


378 posted on 12/17/2005 12:16:32 PM PST by Thatcherite (F--ked in the afterlife, bullying feminized androgenous automaton euro-weenie blackguard)
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To: Texas Eagle
Oh. Quantum mechanics isn't really science. My bad.

Do you believe in quantum mechanics?

379 posted on 12/17/2005 12:17:01 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
I looked up that quote, and found a source that suggests that Pasteur did in fact accept Darwinian evolution, at least in his later years. This...this would mean that creationist sources are lying! My whole view of the world has been shattered!
380 posted on 12/17/2005 12:17:57 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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