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Putin against closing mausoleum, burying Leninís body
Itar Tass News Agency ^ | 2-7-06 | ITAR-TASS

Posted on 02/07/2006 3:23:43 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite

MOSCOW, February 7 (Itar-Tass) -- President Vladimir Putin does not support the idea to close the Red Square mausoleum and bury Vladimir Lenin’s body.

“I wish to find solutions, which would enjoy support by the majority of citizens and promote reconciliation and unity of the nation rather than a split,” Putin told the Spanish media.

“I visited [Francisco] Franco’s grave when I was in Spain in the middle of the 1990s. Opinions may differ, and there are two completely different things. I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism,” he said.

“Each ideology has its own notions of justice and problems, but it would be incorrect to match them,” he said. “Franco is a rather controversial personality, and there are different assessments of his role. But he was buried in a pantheon with all the honors.”

“Spanish people suffered a lot during the Civil War, and Russian citizens suffered equally or even more during the civil confrontation,” Putin said. “Nowadays, we should not provoke a split but promote unification and reconciliation with every step of ours.”


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KEYWORDS: burythecommie; communism; communists; kgb; kprf; lenin; putin; putincommie; russia; sovietunion; ussr
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1 posted on 02/07/2006 3:23:45 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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To: lizol; Lukasz; spanalot; Tailgunner Joe; REactor

ping


2 posted on 02/07/2006 3:24:38 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: GSlob; propertius

ping


3 posted on 02/07/2006 3:25:03 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism,” he said.

I'm sure his mirror has a way of drawing the parallels for him.

4 posted on 02/07/2006 3:27:16 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

In other news: the second apple has fallen on the head of Sir Isaac Newton. "This confirms the law of gravity", said the prominent scientist.


5 posted on 02/07/2006 3:28:34 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Stellar Dendrite

How about give the old totalitarian tyrant a bath in high-powered acid until there's nothing left but chemicals? Then pour the discharge into the sewer system for a fitting place of repose.


6 posted on 02/07/2006 3:28:56 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions

Suggestion, 'pink mist' but judging on the age of the corpse it would be 'grey mist'.


7 posted on 02/07/2006 3:30:59 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

my gosh, that thing must really stink by now. shoo weee.


8 posted on 02/07/2006 3:32:48 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when")
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To: Westlander

Better yet, since Putin doesn't want to bury Lenin, how 'bout he has to keep the corpse in his living room?


9 posted on 02/07/2006 3:32:57 PM PST by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: jb6; Romanov; GarySpFc

Ping


10 posted on 02/07/2006 3:36:40 PM PST by lizol
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Putin is a turd bag. Commie piece of trash.


11 posted on 02/07/2006 3:36:44 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

you're preaching to the choir :)


PUCK FUTIN!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 02/07/2006 3:38:05 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
“Franco is a rather controversial personality, and there are different assessments of his role."

And, of course, we all agree that Lenin was a noble hero, worthy of all accolades.

Seriously, whatever happened to that "Ripley's Believe It Or Not Museum" or that "Barnum's Museum of Oddities" that used to have those stuffed "Half-Monkey, Half-Fish" freaks. Both Lenin and Franco exhibits would fit in well.

13 posted on 02/07/2006 3:40:53 PM PST by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: Romanov; jb6; x5452; Hill of Tara
Somebody is neglecting to tell the truth. Putin tried to remove the body previously, but there were objections from some quarters.

Lenin going! Moscow now capitalist den

M Chhaya in Kolkata | October 01, 2005 17:25 IST

India's top Communist leaders are stunned and upset over Russian President Vladimir Putin wanting to remove Lenin's mummified body from Moscow's Red Square and give it a final burial.

The Kremlin this week reportedly announced that it was time to bury Lenin's body alongside other Bolshevik leaders.

The news has been received with bewilderment and anger by top Communist Party of India-Marxist leaders like Jyoti Basu and Anil Biswas.

So angry was Basu that he said socialism was finished in Russia and that capitalism had grown deep roots in Moscow.

"They (Russians) have buried Stalin's body and now they want to do the same to Lenin's. This is most unfortunate," Basu said.

Stalin's mummified body was kept alongside that of Lenin for many years, and Basu remembered one of his Russia visits when he had seen the mortal remains of both leaders together at the Red Square.

Also angry was CPI-M's politburo member Anil Biswas who said Lenin's body had remained in Red Square despite several attempts within a quarter in Kremlin to bury it.

"Lenin's mummified body is a Russian heritage and a national memorial in itself. We don't support the move to bury Lenin's body" Biswas said.
14 posted on 02/07/2006 3:42:29 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: GarySpFc

The answer is EBay. Old Lenin would bring millions.


15 posted on 02/07/2006 3:46:41 PM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: jslade

LOL! I would bid on Lenin my cat would use him as a scratching post.


16 posted on 02/07/2006 3:53:22 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: GarySpFc
Russia Weighs What to Do With Lenin's Body

Revisiting a proposal that thwarted Boris N. Yeltsin, who faced down tanks but in his time as president could not persuade Russians to remove the Soviet Union's founder from his place of honor, a senior aide to President Vladimir V. Putin raised the matter last week, saying it was time to bury the man.

"Our country has been shaken by strife, but only a few people were held accountable for that in our lifetime," said the aide, Georgi Poltavchenko. "I do not think it is fair that those who initiated the strife remain in the center of our state near the Kremlin."
17 posted on 02/07/2006 3:59:09 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: lizol

Does anybody have the Russian version of Putin's statements on this? If you read the article, the title doesn't support the body. He doesn't say he's against burying it, but rather says they're looking at ways to find a solution that will make all happy. A Russian colleague of mine told me that last time this came up (and Putin appeared to want to have Lenin buried), that Lenin will probably get ousted from Red Square when the older generation has passed on.

One thing I noticed on Red Square is the lines to his kukla are mainly comprised of foreign tourists. Myself? Never been - don't pay homage to a mass murderer.


18 posted on 02/07/2006 4:14:03 PM PST by Romanov
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To: Romanov

Well, it was fascinating. When I visited it, it was before the whole country had collapsed and they were still doing the changing of the guards, etc. All I can say is that he ought to be buried and be done with it.

Nonetheless, it was stunningly beautiful inside with 4 guards, 1 on each side of the body. The granite/marble was incredible. The body looked like any other body at a funeral despite its age. It was surreal.


19 posted on 02/07/2006 4:20:49 PM PST by wireplay
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To: Stellar Dendrite
I thought Lenins body was at the point of decay where it really needed to be buried.
20 posted on 02/07/2006 4:37:48 PM PST by fso301
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To: Stellar Dendrite
They should rent the body to an American carnival to raise money for the Red Army.

Step right up folks see the terror of the Western world. Just $5 bucks a view, sonny.l

21 posted on 02/07/2006 4:41:02 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: fso301
Obligitory PICTURES OF A DEAD GUY

Hrumph...same pose in both pictures. Doesn't that guy ever smile?

22 posted on 02/07/2006 4:42:58 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Westlander

Hey Westlander, what say we ask if we can "entomb" Mrs. Mulhern right next to the dead communist ba$tard. She's already dead from the neck up. Twin commies!


23 posted on 02/07/2006 4:43:40 PM PST by RushLake (The Democratic party--Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Burying Lenin would be crazy. Only crazy people throw money away.

Charge admission!

24 posted on 02/07/2006 4:46:39 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions

Yeah, there are some differences. The German fascists tended to put a 9mm in yer noggin. Commies liked the 9 X 18 Makarov.


25 posted on 02/07/2006 5:07:56 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (I have nothing else to say - for now.)
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To: Tribune7

Vladimir Zhirinovsky actually proposed taking Lenin on tour and charging admission.


26 posted on 02/07/2006 5:09:57 PM PST by Romanov
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To: Romanov

Who says the Russians don't get capitalism. :)


27 posted on 02/07/2006 5:36:52 PM PST by x5452
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To: Romanov

utin leaves media guessing where he stands on Lenin tomb issue
19:22 | 07/ 02/ 2006

MOSCOW, February 7 (RIA Novosti) - Vladimir Putin said Tuesday he would try to resolve the controversial issue of reburying communist leader Vladimir Lenin without triggering a split in society, but refrained from revealing his own position on the matter.

Talking to Spanish reporters ahead of an official visit to Spain, which starts Wednesday, Putin said, "I believe Russian citizens suffered internecine strife and civil confrontation as much as or even more than Spaniards did during the Civil War. So today, instead of fostering a rift, we should work... toward [national] reunification and reconciliation."

The removal of Lenin's mummified body from the mausoleum on Red Square, where it has been on display since the Bolshevik leader's death in 1924, has been the subject of heated political debates in post-Soviet Russia. Some have argued Lenin should be laid to rest at a regular cemetery. Others, primarily neo-communists, have insisted that the structure remain his final resting place.


28 posted on 02/07/2006 5:37:34 PM PST by x5452
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Putin = Stalinist


29 posted on 02/07/2006 6:26:45 PM PST by Wiz
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To: lizol; x5452

Ping


30 posted on 02/07/2006 7:17:47 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Pootie poot will not bury his idol.


31 posted on 02/07/2006 7:18:36 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Stellar Dendrite

" I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism,”"

He left out liberals. They are of the same line.


32 posted on 02/07/2006 7:19:54 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: GarySpFc; Romanov; Stellar Dendrite; jb6; Tailgunner Joe

"president could not persuade Russians to remove the Soviet Union's founder from his place of honor,"

How does a Viet Nam vet who saw his comrades killed by communists come to call Lenins tomb a "place of honor"?

Gary, shouldnt you be on Free Lunch Republic?


33 posted on 02/07/2006 7:21:19 PM PST by spanalot
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To: spanalot; GarySpFc; A. Pole; Romanov; RusIvan; FormerLib; x5452; Hill of Tara
Soviet Union's founder from his place of honor

When you go back to your socialist handlers, smack them for not teaching you better english. Again, you make the usual fool or yourself, shilling as always, insulting as you are. Gary didn't say he honored Lenin or his memorial honorable. It is an American expression, one your handlers are obviously to stupid to know or pass on to you.

The resting place of a person and one where people come to pay there respects, is called the person's place of honor. Gads, you shills are to pathetic.

34 posted on 02/07/2006 7:52:41 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Guess old Putin likes the smell of Lenin in the morning...
35 posted on 02/07/2006 7:55:02 PM PST by Bender2 (Stop doodling around... Read the first three chapters of my Science Fiction novel.)
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To: bannie

He could use a makeover. We'll call it, "Queer Eye for the Dead Guy."

36 posted on 02/07/2006 7:57:23 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Bender2

It's called 42% of the population is still against this. Personally it should be burned on Red Square in public, but few elected politicians are going to do something that unpopular.


37 posted on 02/07/2006 8:04:38 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Romanov

LOL


38 posted on 02/07/2006 8:07:51 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: spanalot

LOL


39 posted on 02/07/2006 8:08:45 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: jb6

Putin is just looking for excuses to not bury his idol.


40 posted on 02/07/2006 8:39:50 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Prove it. Oh, that's right, you never do, you just make statements.


41 posted on 02/07/2006 9:23:26 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Romanov

Could send the corpse to Seattle, would go with his statue in the city center.


42 posted on 02/07/2006 9:24:14 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
“Spanish people suffered a lot during the Civil War, and Russian citizens suffered equally or even more during the civil confrontation,” Putin said.

Civil confrontation?

43 posted on 02/07/2006 9:28:24 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: MARKUSPRIME
No, it seems moreso that he's playing to a nationalist sentiment that seems to be on the rise in certain parts of the world. How is this any different than the nationalist sentiment within our own nation? If conservatives were to truly examine the actions and words of men who monuments and statues were built in memory of in Washington DC (i.e. the 16th President, Grant, Sherman, etc.) it seems somewhat hypocritical to criticize Putin's choices over Lenin's body.

Although I have to admit, I do believe it's time to put the corpse underground..

44 posted on 02/07/2006 9:31:24 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
"I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism." - Vladimir Putin, Chekist


45 posted on 02/07/2006 9:38:15 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: jb6

Why do you back Putin so much when he hates the US?


46 posted on 02/07/2006 9:40:36 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
Why do you back Putin so much when he hates the US?

Because your statements are groundless. Because you've yet to back one up. You must believe Bush to be an idiot or a liar then, I don't believe he's either. So, I either trust Bush's feelings and views on Putin or I stand against Bush. I choose to support Bush. As for your grandios statements, that's all they ever are, with ZERO support. The only "support" you ever showed was some photos from the 60th anniversery of WW2 that you tried to ply off as the modern Russian army and an old marker commemorating the victory that you tried to ply off as a modern symbol.

47 posted on 02/07/2006 9:49:52 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: GarySpFc
Somebody is neglecting to tell the truth. Putin tried to remove the body previously, but there were objections from some quarters.

Who is neglecting the truth? Russian state owned press agency? They are in Putin’s pocket and they are better informed than you or Indian communists.

48 posted on 02/07/2006 11:46:52 PM PST by Lukasz
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To: jb6
Putin is just looking for excuses to not bury his idol.

Prove it. Oh, that's right, you never do, you just make statements.

Putin said “I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism,” and this is communist apologism. Putin refuse to admit that people like Stalin or Lenin were scum.

49 posted on 02/07/2006 11:51:04 PM PST by Lukasz
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To: jb6; GarySpFc; Romanov; Hill of Tara

What he REALLY said:

08 February 2006, 11:00
Majority opinion needed on whether or not to bury Lenin - Putin

Moscow, February 8, Interfax - Any decision on whether or not to bury the body of Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin, currently housed in a mausoleum on Moscow's Red Square, should be guided by the sentiments of the majority of Russians, President Vladimir Putin said.

"I will seek decisions that have the support of the overwhelming majority of the citizens of our country and, I would like to emphasize this again, decisions that are conducive to conciliation and to national unification rather than to schism," Putin told the Spanish media.

"I believe that, just as the Spanish suffered during the civil war some time ago, the Russian population suffered in the same way or even more from internal strife and civil confrontation. Today we should do nothing that threatens a split and instead should make every move to achieve unification and conciliation," he said.

Putin, who said he had visited the grave of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco during a trip to Spain, argued it was wrong to equate communism with fascism. "Each ideology had its own notions of justice and its own problems. It seems to me that equating the two is completely incorrect," he said.


50 posted on 02/08/2006 8:09:34 AM PST by x5452
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