Posted on 02/20/2006 5:33:50 AM PST by ToryHeartland
All right you Calvinists and Arminians; let's FIGHT!!
[...Evolution does not advance
civility, it excuses depravity...]
I hoped SOMEONE would notice. If I'm an animal, then my
behavior is excused as "instinct". Ah, the beasts. Even they know.
Job 12:7-8 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: God's hand is the life and breath of every living thing.
Hmm, maybe he meant is as hyperbole.
But he stated this was a 'definition', then linked to a page of definitions that disagree with him. But on that page, down low, was a 'thesaurus' that refered to the term.
Maybe I was too harsh to say, "dishonest".
But I must say, it doesn't sit well with me. But maybe it was just an honest mistake.
The legacy of Christian rule in the Europe of Cromwell, the Lutheran Fathers, Calvin and Savanarolla is that Europeans recognize from experience that Christianity is NOT really a viable principle for remotely civilized government, and needs to be confined to the quaint traditions of Churches and the like......America never went through that. In America, the intense desire is still there among various Puritan elements to well and truly have a state that is founded upon and respects "Christian principles". This it the evolution argument. The public schools teaching Darwin are teaching apostasy and blasphemy, according to those who believe that the Bible is being traduced thereby. And so they seek to use their numbers to vote in people who will teach the truth as they understand it.
Well said and worth repeating.
By "assault on science" I assume you mean the support of the religion of evolution. (And welcome to FR.)
Interesting viewpoint. Thank you.
I don't worry about the Theory of Evolution being taught, of course, because I think that's what happened. And whether my daughter goes to a public school or a Catholic school, that is precisely what she will be taught in either place.
I DO worry about fiddling with the science curriculum in order to reflect beliefs of Protestant religion that I don't accept.
I think evolution is precisely how God made life and us, and that's what my daughter taught. If the public schools start teaching Protestant religion and 7 days stuff, then I'll send my daughter to the Catholic schools where she can be properly taught what I view as the scientific and religious truth. I don't think religion CAN conflict with science, if both are practiced honestly.
I am worried about a bunch of kids who aren't Catholic being handicapped in the world of science by being taught something other than evolution in science class.
I have been watching these judges, and it doesn't surprise me that Catholic judges are the ones who take a very dim view of all of this intelligent design business. Once they actually drill past the words and look at it, it doesn't look very much like science to them. Of course, that may just be their pro-Darwinian evolution prejudice arising from the religious education they got in the Catholic schools.
I think that John Paul II was right, and that evolution is how we very probably got here. Given that truth, this causes us to re-examine our understanding of Scripture. Obviously I expect this to go over like a lead balloon with my Evangelical friends.
Democratically, I think that the Evangelicals probably have the votes in a lot of areas to impose Intelligent Design and Creation science in the public schools. Since I think, personally, this is imposing scientific error and Protestant religion, I look to Catholic federal judges to put the kebosh on it all by doing, as some already have, an analysis, deciding that ID is disguised religion, and insisting upon Darwinian evolution as the proper thing to be taught. Of course, if you pull back the cloak, this is REALLY imposing the scientific view of Catholics by using the judiciary, but I've yet to see anybody view it from that angle, so I think I'll just go "Down Periscope" and shut up about it for awhile.
Well, I've been reminded (again) that arguing with creationists is like wrestling pigs; you may win, but you'll still end up wanting to take a shower.
Or, arguing with creationists is like playing chess with a pigeon. It knocks over all the pieces, craps on the board, and then flies back to it's friends to brag about its victory.
What I know about God is what has been revealed to me directly, and that ain't much.
James 1:5
If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
NIV Colossians 2:2-3
2. My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ,
3. in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
NIV Philemon 1:6
I pray that you may be active in sharing your faith, so that you will have a full understanding of every good thing we have in Christ.
No lie professor. Here's your statement. You think it is unreasonable to conclude from this statement that you think creationist physicians are inferior?
Or perhaps you're argument is with my using the word theist rather than creationist? I could accept that as an argument but calling me a liar?
LOL, every time we have a discussion you resort to ad hominem in frustration. It's entertaining! Keep it up!
By the way, would you agree that if I said that 'I would never employ an atheist physician' I could rightly be called a bigot?
AFFIRM: Web definitions for vow make a vow;
promise; "He vowed never to drink alcohol again"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
VOW: An earnest promise to perform a specified
act or behave in a certain manner, especially a
solemn promise to live and act in accordance with.
www.answers.com/topic/vow
OATH: A solemn, formal declaration or promise to
fulfill a pledge, often calling on God, a god, or
a sacred object as witness. The words or formula
of such a declaration or promise. Something declared
or promised. http://www.answers.com/topic/oath?method=6
Why, soitanly! I'm no atheist.
:assorted Bible verses:
Apparently you didn't read the rest of my post
I wouldn't take a single source for the repair record for a used Nissan -- why would I accept it for anything actually important?
And the last I heard, Billy Graham promoted ideas that weren't in keeping with the Bhagavad Gita... Scandalous, I know. But true!!!
Do you have any evidence? The existence of the world doesn't prove God's presence.
"I do NOT disbelieve in God. I just dont see him in the ramblings of the primitive people who penned the words."
I agree with this completely. All the Bible Reading in the world cannot tell you nearly as much about God as a day of fishing.
"So God told you personally that the Bible is his inspired word?"
God didn't single me out. He is inclusive. His inspired writing is available to all - even you!
You can either accept it or reject it.
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