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Milosevic's Memory Snubbed by Most Serbs
Charter News ^ | 03-17-06 | WestVirginiaRebel

Posted on 03/17/2006 4:29:21 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel

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To: cripplecreek

I didn't think that threats went over well on Free Republic.


51 posted on 03/18/2006 8:18:04 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Scotswife

Could it be thousands? Sure but in a nation of millions, that comes out to pretty poor odds. I've no doubt there are tens of thousands of socialists in Serbia that would like to have Slobo back in power. You probably could find even more in Russia who want Stalin back. That doesn't really prove anything. The fact that millions aren't out there says something to me, though.

Of course, you have millions of people in this country who would rather have John Kerry in the White House. I find that to be a much more immediate problem for me to deal with!


52 posted on 03/18/2006 8:21:57 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: cripplecreek

But such threats will buy a thread a one-way trip out of the News forum!


53 posted on 03/18/2006 8:23:08 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Scotswife

How bout 80k plus!


BELGRADE (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Serbs rallied to pay last respects to Slobodan Milosevic on Saturday, hailing as a hero the man who presided over years of bloodshed and was ousted by his own people.

Supporters of the former president, who died in his cell at the U.N. war crimes tribunal in The Hague last Saturday, waved banners and red, blue and white Serbian flags as they demonstrated outside the federal parliament in Belgrade.

"When we wipe away the tears of rage and sorrow, we will be proud to have had him," Milorad Vucelic, a senior official from Milosevic's Socialist party, told the crowd estimated by police at around 80,000.

"Slobodan Milosevic is a winner, now and forever. He lives in the hearts and memories of Serbia and its people," he said.

The mourners, mostly middle-aged or older, held a minute's silence and then broke into cries of "Slobo, Slobo!" and "This is Serbia!"

After the rally, a hearse took Milosevic's coffin draped in a Serbian flag on its final journey to the town of Pozarevac for burial in the grounds of the family's home.

Thousands of people, many holding red roses, gathered in the drab provincial town some 80 km (50 miles) east of Belgrade to follow the hearse and hear more speeches before the burial.


54 posted on 03/18/2006 8:25:27 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: FormerLib

I'm not the one sitting here seeking someone out to attack repeatedly. You are.


55 posted on 03/18/2006 8:25:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek; admin

When has threating individuals been a policy around here?


56 posted on 03/18/2006 8:25:41 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: FormerLib

"The fact that millions aren't out there says something to me, though. "

Agreed.

"Of course, you have millions of people in this country who would rather have John Kerry in the White House. I find that to be a much more immediate problem for me to deal with!"

Agreed.
At least in this country we use words instead of rape, torture, and mass murder...something of which all 3 ethnic groups in the former Yugoslavia have repeatedly resorted to over the centuries.


57 posted on 03/18/2006 8:30:15 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: takenoprisoner

I still don't see where you get the 80+ figure.


58 posted on 03/18/2006 8:31:57 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: takenoprisoner

whoops....I should have read it twice before I posted.
So...do you think a crowd of 80+ is a good crowd?
I got the impression they were expecting more and were surprised at the low turnout.


59 posted on 03/18/2006 8:33:42 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: cripplecreek; admin

"Ya know, the last one of you "people" who latched on and played this little game of attack with me doesn't have an account here anymore. BACK OFF"

Why is this account being allowed to threaten others with being banned?


60 posted on 03/18/2006 8:37:00 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: cripplecreek
I'm not the one sitting here seeking someone out to attack repeatedly. You are.

Please do not resort to slandering me just because you are angry, I haven't attacked anyone.

61 posted on 03/18/2006 8:37:50 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

Either did A pole, I guess CC forgot how to debate and went straight into threat mode.


62 posted on 03/18/2006 8:43:11 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: takenoprisoner

According to fox..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188303,00.html

The crowd was estimated at 50 thousand with those supporters being organized and bussed in by the socialist party.

It appears it is not the case this crowd represents broad support for Slobbo.


63 posted on 03/18/2006 8:46:45 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
"At least in this country we use words instead of rape, torture, and mass murder...something of which all 3 ethnic groups in the former Yugoslavia have repeatedly resorted to over the centuries."

That's a rather "generalized" statement don't you think? Want to talk about how many rapes and murders that occur daily in this country?

You're generalizations are inaccurate.

64 posted on 03/18/2006 9:03:03 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Scotswife
...with those supporters being organized and bussed in by the socialist party.

That's pretty much what I expected.

65 posted on 03/18/2006 9:03:04 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: montyspython

Sure rapes and murders occur in this country too....but you hardly see the large scale ethnic warfare here that you do in former Yugoslavia.

The history of this region is massacre upon massacre -systematically, one group against the other.

You also don't see - in this country- our soldiers or police rounding up innocent men, murdering them, and raping the women.
does the occasional crackpot do this? Sure.
Do we see this used as a systematic tactic against ethnic groups? No.


66 posted on 03/18/2006 9:07:59 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

"Do we see this used as a systematic tactic against ethnic groups? No."

Nor were the prosecutors in five plus years of trial able to prove these kind of charges against slobbo.


67 posted on 03/18/2006 9:19:03 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner

You say this like the the trial is over and a verdict has been reached.

I'll wait to see how that plays out and view the information that comes from that once it is over.

When a leader announces he is going to win a war at all costs, and then people find themselves being targeted for massacre - it isn't all that hard to put 2 and 2 together.

You are asking me to believe that rogue bands of serbs were committing atrocities without approval from the top?
Gimme a break.
If that were true - then please point out when Slobbo condemned their actions.

Somewhere right now OJ is still looking for Nicole's "real killer"

uh huh


68 posted on 03/18/2006 11:09:09 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

You and I know better. Clearly it was all calculated.


69 posted on 03/18/2006 11:36:16 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Scotswife

"I'll wait to see how that plays out and view the information that comes from that once it is over. "

You are really patient. Slobbo died waiting after more than five years. Funny how it only took 10 mos for the Nuremberg trials though.


70 posted on 03/18/2006 1:46:19 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner
Funny how it only took 10 mos for the Nuremberg trials though.

The Nuremberg defendants weren't allowed to game the system to the point where they were only in court three days a week for 4 hours a day when they weren't on a court ordered 6 week recess to cater to their ill health, were they?

Slobo merely tried to draw out his trial as long as he could. In the end, his machinations quite likely cost him his life, which is a win considering the Tribunal's lack of a death penalty.

At any rate, Slobo's legacy remains on trial over at the ICJ, and it is likely that upon those verdicts history will judge Slobo in the end.

71 posted on 03/18/2006 3:03:58 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Thats's some fancy hoops you just leaped through (several in fact)in order to arrive at your own self inflicted apparently (on your part a) gratifying conclusion.


72 posted on 03/18/2006 7:10:30 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner
The court schedule, and Slobo's refusal to utilize counsel and his health concerns subsequently dictating the court's time are a matter of record.

Slobo's misuse of his time while in court, being his propensity to give speeches rather than address the evidence are also a matter of record.

Which leaves Bosnia and Croatia's separate genocide suits against Serbia, which haven't stopped given Slobo's demise, and in large part are recapitulations of the charges against Slobo in the Bosnia and Croatia portions of his indictment at the ICTY.

Yeah, "hoops".

73 posted on 03/18/2006 7:38:59 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

...meantime a conscious state of denial has been determined to be a precept to the perpetual state of emotional complicity regarding the arts of internal deception...to wit I find you a wittingly and illicit conspirator.

for these reasons and more, I ain't buyin your lies.


74 posted on 03/18/2006 8:00:26 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner
There ya go.

If you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, just blow smoke.

75 posted on 03/18/2006 8:02:53 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

I was mocking you.


76 posted on 03/18/2006 8:12:18 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Hoplite

unable to prove/resolve/conclude in 5 years. That must be some sort of world record for trials dont ya think? Considering Nuremberg only lasted ten months.

I guess they were more fast thinkers back then.


77 posted on 03/18/2006 8:17:33 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner
You have to understand, Hoplite is a little slow. The aging process has not been kind to him.
78 posted on 03/20/2006 9:54:09 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Scotswife
"You say this like the the trial is over and a verdict has been reached. "

He was already deemed guilty by Del Ponte and the press.

79 posted on 03/20/2006 10:09:23 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: takenoprisoner

"You are really patient. Slobbo died waiting after more than five years. Funny how it only took 10 mos for the Nuremberg trials though."

Yes I am patient - this is not Nuremberg.
Slobbo was given alot more rope than those defendants, and he used it to delay as much as possible.
His health issues also dragged it out.

Of course....I don't have a horse in this race, while you obviously do.


80 posted on 03/20/2006 8:25:07 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: NYC Republican

"You and I know better. Clearly it was all calculated."

Well it's getting really silly.
All they want to say is Slobbo had nothing to do with the genocide, and yet I don't see any plausible explanation as to WHO IS responsible.
You would think it would matter to them - just a little- as to who it was that massacred innocent people.


81 posted on 03/20/2006 8:28:20 PM PST by Scotswife
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