Posted on 03/27/2006 9:53:41 AM PST by Pukin Dog
Just a little dose of reality for some of you going nuts over the Immigration issue, because there is NO chance that you will win on the border enforcement issue. No chance whatsoever. Only after a migrant worker program passes, making most of these illegal aliens legal, is there any chance at all to have meaningful border enforcement.
Bush is not running for office anymore, but the Republican Congress is in need of a big victory in November. This issue will kill our chances to maintain the majority, and knowing that, Bush will likely veto any bill making illegal immigration a felony, if that bill does not include the migrant worker program (call it amnesty if you want) needed to hold onto Business and Hispanic support for the Republican Party.
The Illegal Immigration Genie is out of the bottle, folks. You can’t stuff her back in without losing the House and/or Senate in November. Pragmatic minds will rule in the end, and that is a bitter pill you best swallow now.
FReepers can’t will elections for the Republican Party, but we sure can go a long way towards losing them, if we can’t put our common sense ahead of our passions on this issue. I live in San Diego County, and I see the problems with illegal immigration on a daily basis.
Whether you like it or not, much of the commerce of this country does depend on these folks to do jobs that Americans won’t do for the prevailing wage.
So, you have a choice, you can demand the border enforcement bills on their own, or you can swallow hard and consider everything you will lose if we turn off 10-15% of the electorate, in addition to the business community that depends on these workers. Yeah, they broke the law, and so do the people who hire them.
So what?
Yeah, I said it, SO WHAT? The time to be worried about that was when there were REAL Republican majorities in the Border States. It is too late now. This is a problem that cannot be solved, but only managed.
It is possible to be right and stupid at the same time. Pete Wilson tried this a few years ago, got all kinds of support for it. It passed, and Pete Wilson is gone. Then a judge overturned it anyway. That is exactly what you can expect to happen with these current bills as well. Some judge will put an injunction on enforcement, but by the time that happens, we will be knee-deep into impeachment proceeding under a Democrat Congress.
Bush won’t let that happen, neither will smarter members of the Senate and House. You won’t win, you can’t win, but you can shoot yourself and the Republican party in the head (even if you are not a member) by pursuing a program that does not include amnesty or whatever you want to call it.
We lost this one.
Get over it. There are bigger battles ahead.
It is that simple.
I want to be right.
I don't think you understand. The Azteca Intifada has just erupted in the Barrio Archepelago.
Pukin', you're 180 degrees off. Immigration is THE issue that the 2008 winner will take---border enforcement. Whoever grabs that issue and runs with it (Tancredo is just too small potatoes---I mean, whichever major figure) wins. It's that simple. So, yes, we can be right and win.
If there is any type of guest worker amnesty whatsoever the gop will lose big in November.
This issue is a win for them if they follow the rule of law and side with the 80% of Americans who want our immigration laws enforced and our borders closed and secured.
Anything other than securing the border and taking steps to rid ourselves of the illegal menace would be political suicide.
If what you say is true, it's not just us freepers that are screwed, the Republican party will reap the whirlwind in the fall no matter what they do. The country is on the wrong track and there's nothing like a little gridlock to slow the train down. Frankly, if Bush didn't do anything wrong he doesn't need to worry about impeachment, now does he?
They'll lose far more support if they betray us.
I like that. That's exactly what it is.
As do I - will keep track how everyone of my congresscritters vote and take that into account next time they are up for re-election (most this Nov). I will reward them according to what I believe is right for this country. We are based on the "RULE OF LAW" and every stinking one of these illegal aliens are ILLEGAL. End of discussion - watch the election this fall and weep.
"My peons are so stupid, they won't figure it out for years."
It's mostly small businesses who hire the illegals. Faced with not surviving in business due to onerous garbage laws, they hire Mexicans who are eager for the work.
If the regulation was erased and American low-wage workers couldn't demand all the goodies, American business could hire American workers and Mexicans wouldn't be so attractive.
Getting rid of Minimum wage laws and such is the answer IMO and that's not going to happen anytime soon.
Where's the barf alert for this piece?
Sorry, there is no reality in your defeatist rant.
False dichotomy whether one agrees with your premises or not.
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