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MS: Smoking at Home Threatens Children Despite Support for Public Bans
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | April 29, 2006

Posted on 04/30/2006 8:31:10 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: SheLion

Here they come! Once the government gets it's big, fat foot in the door, there'll be no end to it all.


21 posted on 04/30/2006 9:25:46 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: SheLion

Sugar tax? The sugarplum fairy will become the next evildoer.


22 posted on 04/30/2006 9:42:46 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: SheLion
Just wish we had some people here in America that were around in this nation in the 1770s. Oh, we do. They are going to be protesting tomorrow while the taxpayers sit in their a$$e$ & bitch at themselves. Then wonder why were headed to totalitarianism.
23 posted on 04/30/2006 9:55:58 AM PDT by Digger
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To: nothingnew
I know a LOT of smokers, almost everyone I know. None of them smoke around their children, whether it be in the home or the car. They all go outside to smoke when at home. ALL of them.My twins are long gone living their own lives, but when I get visitors who have children in tow, my wife and I smoke outside. Period.Just like I won't light up in any non-smoking places.......(that's why I spend very little $$ at restaurants or bars.

Life was so much easier 10-15 years ago.  I was born into a two smoker home.  I had no health problems.

Our daughter was born into a two smoker home.  She was a big baby at birth and healthy.  And no health problems all her life living here with my hubby and me.

She is now married with a babe of her own.  She and her hubby smoke, but not around the grandson.  They go outside to smoke, and never smoke in their cars when he is in the car as well.

But, they have learned to do this over the past 4 years.  They listened to Nanny government.  And they don't want anyone coming to threaten to take their son away just because they smoke.

The world has gone nuts.

24 posted on 04/30/2006 10:14:42 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Just goes to show that government can't get their acts together to handle real problems, so then ban smoking.


25 posted on 04/30/2006 10:32:35 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: SheLion
The world has gone nuts.

Indeed.

My point was only to say that I respect a person's or parents choice of keeping their offspring away from smoke. When in my home, they are guests and I treat them as such, whether their beliefs are unfounded or not. Not a big sacrifice on our part, since they get fed up with my dogs and woodstove fast enough....hahahahaha!

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 04/30/2006 10:35:40 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: SheLion
Smokers are really turning public opinion around, keep up the good works folks, your childrens health is counting on it


27 posted on 04/30/2006 10:45:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: trubluolyguy
.Soon it will be considered child abuse to smoke around your kids.

Forcing anyone to breath unnecessary smoke is abuse. Doing it to your own kids is the worse kind of abuse. At least adults can opt out, children have no such option.

28 posted on 04/30/2006 10:47:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: SheLion

You can bet your sweet bippy that the anti-smokers who drink may regret all their crap about the smoking when the nannys come after them for drinking in their home with children or having guns.


29 posted on 04/30/2006 10:49:08 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Raycpa

Typical anti-smoker.....unable to think for himself and thus must trot out the tired propaganda of his handlers.

I feel so sorry for you people can't even keep on topic........pathetic.


30 posted on 04/30/2006 10:49:30 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: SheLion

That's pretty funny.....seeing the number of kid's killed in auto accidents...and I don't see any of those three buckled up.


31 posted on 04/30/2006 10:50:10 AM PDT by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: Gabz
Topic? Isn't the following in the topic? See how well your current arguments are turning public opinion? I think maybe its going the wrong way. Oh my. Support for smoking bans increased from:
--71 to 80 percent in shopping malls;
--61 to 71 percent in restaurants;
--77 to 82 percent in fast-food restaurants;
--25 to 39 percent in outdoor parks; and
--78 to 82 percent in indoor sporting events.

Regarding household practices, support increased from 69 to 77 percent for smoke-free homes; and from 79 to 90 percent for smoking bans when children are present.

Community practices that included smoking bans increased from:
--75 to 83 percent in indoor shopping malls;
--68 to 80 percent in convenience stores;
--52 to 72 percent in fast-food restaurants;
--25 to 45 percent in restaurants; and
--8 to 15 percent in outdoor parks.

When are you folks going to stop and realize the definition of insanity and learn that you need to change your approach on this issue and face the reality head on?

32 posted on 04/30/2006 10:53:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ClaireSolt
Just goes to show that government can't get their acts together to handle real problems, so then ban smoking.

Yes.  And instead of worrying about our borders, guess what takes priority?  To Ban Smoking! heh!

Stupid, aren't they!

33 posted on 04/30/2006 11:06:06 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Raycpa

Your point is? How come of the millions of us who grew up in the '70s, exposed to smoking at home, in cars, stores, at school never developed cancer from it? How come now that nazi pigs like yourself have forbidden any smoking in public places, that the incidence of childhood asthma has INCREASED? What if someone came to your house or car or business and found something they "don't like" you to do, and used the force of government to make you obey? While you're squealing with delight over other people's freedoms being taken away, remember that someday the same thing could happen to something you like.


34 posted on 04/30/2006 11:07:20 AM PDT by boop (The Gimp's asleep!)
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To: nothingnew
My point was only to say that I respect a person's or parents choice of keeping their offspring away from smoke. When in my home, they are guests and I treat them as such, whether their beliefs are unfounded or not. Not a big sacrifice on our part, since they get fed up with my dogs and woodstove fast enough....hahahahaha!

LOL! I know what you mean!

And when they all came home for Thanksgiving, I didn't smoke around my grandson, either.  No problem.  I just hate the way the anti's have swayed the general public into believing that second hand smoke is such a killer.  We should have been dead YEARS ago!

35 posted on 04/30/2006 11:08:00 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Raycpa

There is a single line there with nothing to back it up.

Continue to support the destruction of private property rights at your own peril.

BTW - There is no support for smoking bans on private property other than those imposed by the owner. These "surveys" are fully funded by those with an agenda..........and you know it, you just choose to parrot the nonsense.


36 posted on 04/30/2006 11:08:27 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: Osage Orange
That's pretty funny.....seeing the number of kid's killed in auto accidents...and I don't see any of those three buckled up.

Hahaaaa  I wait after I post that picture to see how long it will take someone to notice.  Maine's Board of Health published that picture.  How asinine.  Kids in an open convertible, back seat and no seat belts.  LOL

But by Gawd, DAD AIN'T SMOKING!  

37 posted on 04/30/2006 11:10:30 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: boop
How come of the millions of us who grew up in the '70s, exposed to smoking at home, in cars, stores, at school never developed cancer from it?

Should you knowingly expose your child to a potential danger when its unnecessary?

38 posted on 04/30/2006 11:13:21 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Gabz

Now you are off topic. Whether the surveys are skewed or not, they still show a trend away from supporting smokers which is consistent with the legislative trends.

Don't change.Stay in denial. I really don't care.


39 posted on 04/30/2006 11:16:00 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

I'm not changing the topic, you are the one that brought up the numbers - I didn't. It does matter that the numbers are skewed, because they show NOTHING at all.

I'm not the one in denial - you and your ilk are the ones in denial about the corruption of the anti-smoker movement and the blindness to the brainwashing you have accepted brom the movement. You can't see the forest for the trees - you don't like smoking so will believe any crapola spewed by them - no matter how utterly ridiculous and fallacious.

As I said, I feel sorry for people unable to think for themselves.


40 posted on 04/30/2006 11:21:28 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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