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Evolution's bottom line
National Center for Science Education ^ | 12 May 2006 | Staff

Posted on 05/12/2006 12:13:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

In his op-ed "Evolution's bottom line," published in The New York Times (May 12, 2006), Holden Thorp emphasizes the practical applications of evolution, writing, "creationism has no commercial application. Evolution does," and citing several specific examples.

In places where evolution education is undermined, he argues, it isn't only students who will be the poorer for it: "Will Mom or Dad Scientist want to live somewhere where their children are less likely to learn evolution?" He concludes, "Where science gets done is where wealth gets created, so places that decide to put stickers on their textbooks or change the definition of science have decided, perhaps unknowingly, not to go to the innovation party of the future. Maybe that's fine for the grownups who'd rather stay home, but it seems like a raw deal for the 14-year-old girl in Topeka who might have gone on to find a cure for resistant infections if only she had been taught evolution in high school."

Thorp is chairman of the chemistry department at the University of North Carolina.


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To: PatrickHenry
Thorp is chairman of the chemistry department at the University of North Carolina

I'm embarrassed this man is from my state.

41 posted on 05/12/2006 12:45:16 PM PDT by Gritty (Patriots don't have to be dangerous psychos like liberals, but they could act like men-Ann Coulter)
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To: 2nsdammit

--Sounds good to me.

I hope they are strong lives and not weak lives.

:)


42 posted on 05/12/2006 12:46:54 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: Junior; betty boop
[ Churches basically bilk the gullible out of money in return for assurances that after the payee dies he'll be all right. ]

Not all churches are churches.. not all christians are christians.. and not all humans are Primates.. make a note.. ;)

43 posted on 05/12/2006 12:47:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: lonestar67

"Wouldn't it be better to let such cures evolve through random selection?"

Natural selection is not random.

"I am intrigued as to the motives scientists might have for interfering with such natural processes."

Saving lives? Maybe of someone they love?


44 posted on 05/12/2006 12:47:46 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: 2nsdammit
Wait, I wanna be the first!!! HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN!!!

No he wasn't. Read some history, not the laimstream press. He actively persecuted Christians. When the German armies conquired new towns, the first people killed were evangelical preachers.

45 posted on 05/12/2006 12:48:00 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: theFIRMbss

" . . the cock crowed three times! It's right there in the Bible."


46 posted on 05/12/2006 12:48:33 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping.


47 posted on 05/12/2006 12:49:14 PM PDT by Paddlefish ("Why should I have to WORK for everything?! It's like saying I don't deserve it!")
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To: PatrickHenry
"creationism has no commercial application. Evolution does,"

Actually, there's good money to be made in deliberately keeping people ignorant about science as the proliferation of charlatan book writers and lying creationist tape sellers and donation collectors demonstrate. I agree with the op-ed writer that it's the students who are deprived of an honest education who eventually suffer economically.

Teaching school students creationist anti-evolution lies is a form of child abuse and should criminally punished as such.

48 posted on 05/12/2006 12:51:35 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Junior

Just so everyone knows which side the other is on, it's fair. But comparing lack of wisdom teeth with the lack of belief in God is weird.


49 posted on 05/12/2006 12:51:37 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: JCEccles
Darwinism is goofball science, and it's way to the wacky left.

Science is practiced in a set way whether it is biology, geology, chemistry etc. It includes testing a fact, making observations and making conclusions on those observations. Retesting and peer reviews are also a requirement.

If you are going to make such an accusation prove it.

It's embarrassing when I read stuff like yours on this db.

50 posted on 05/12/2006 12:52:18 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: visually_augmented

"It is interesting that the doctrine of evolution is a critical tenet of the religion of atheism."

Indeed it is.


51 posted on 05/12/2006 12:52:29 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Saving the lives of people we love sounds good to me as well.

It seems strange that human beings would have such motives-- as natural as we are.

I thought our genes were more selfish than that.


52 posted on 05/12/2006 12:52:55 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: Junior

Oh, of course they (we) have an agenda. To make sure students know there is a choice besides godless evolution.


53 posted on 05/12/2006 12:53:09 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

It's not weird. Some people don't find it necessary to trumpet their particular beliefs or lack thereof to every passerby. I find it odd that you believe there is some nefarious purpose behind this. I mean, do you want the guy to come up, offer his hand and say, "hi, I'm an atheist. I thought you'd like to know."


54 posted on 05/12/2006 12:54:21 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: aimhigh; js1138
So, you can proudly claim NAZIism, which is a result of evolutionary doctrine.

Refresh my memory, was it Darwin, Wallace, Huxley, Haeckel, or Martin Luther who wrote an influential essay On the Jews and their Lies

55 posted on 05/12/2006 12:54:42 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: mlc9852
Eugenie Scott’s book is a great read and will open your eyes to the truth. You should consider reading it rather than merely posting some belly achers negative review without having a clue.
56 posted on 05/12/2006 12:55:02 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: PatrickHenry
But science isn't left or right, and there's nothing patriotic about ignorance.

There is now an' Satan's gonna gitchew, commie boy!

57 posted on 05/12/2006 12:55:27 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: mlc9852

Evolution is no more "godless" than relativity.


58 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:16 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Junior

No, I want him to say "I am an atheist and I refuse to have students hear that creation may have been created by a Creator".


59 posted on 05/12/2006 12:56:26 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: shuckmaster

Yeah, I'll rush right out and buy it. Can't wait to have an atheist tell me I am ignorant because I believe in God.


60 posted on 05/12/2006 12:57:13 PM PDT by mlc9852
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