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Terri's Day and nation's independence protects life culture
Renew America ^ | May 29, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:37 AM PDT by KevinNuPac

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Mor on Mikey, from LifeNews...

Clearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Michael Schiavo's political action committee set up to target candidates and elected officials who supported Terri Schiavo and her family's efforts to prevent her euthanasia death has made its next endorsement. The PAC has endorsed Hillsborough County Commissioner Kathy Castor, a Democrat running in Florida's 11th congressional district.

Castor is seeking the seat pro-abortion Rep. Jim Davis, a Democrat who is running for governor to replace outgoing pro-life Gov. Jeb Bush, who backed Terri's parents and signed legislation Florida lawmakers passed seeking to stop the euthanasia.

Michael's PAC Targeting Pro-Terri Schiavo Officials Makes Next Endorsement

8mm

141 posted on 06/10/2006 3:47:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; killjoy
I hope the video link works. It is SchiavoV2email.mov posted below. If not, please let me know and I will try to get the video posted to our website.

...................

TO: FIGHT4TERRI SUPPORTERS
FROM: CHERYL FORD RN
_WWW.FIGHT4TERRI.COM_ (http://www.fight4terri.com/)

JUNE 9, 2006

ATTACHED IS A VIDEO CLIP DOWNLOAD THAT WAS RECENTLY SENT TO ME BY RADIO TALK
SHOW HOST, JOHN SIPOS. I SHARE THIS WITH YOU AT THIS TIME IN AN EFFORT TO
PORTRAY A REMINDER OF HOW JUDGE GEORGE GREER BLATANTLY IGNORED
AFFIDAVIT/TESTIMONY GIVEN BY ATTORNEY BARBARA WELLER WITH REGARD TO TERRI'S
STATEMENT ABOUT
HOW SHE HAD WANTED TO LIVE. I WARN YOU HOWEVER, FOR SOME, IT MAY BE A
DIFFICULT CLIP TO WATCH.

I FEEL EVIDENCE OF SUCH A VIDEO OUGHT TO BE MAINTAINED BY EVERYONE WHO
SUPPORTED TERRI'S RIGHTS AS A DISABLED HUMAN BEING. THE VIDEO SERVES AS A GREAT
REMINDER TO OUR SOCIETY OF HOW AN INNOCENT LIFE WAS TAKEN DUE TO THE
CORRUPTION OF A JUDGE NAMED GEORGE GREER IN PINELLAS PARK, FLORIDA. GEORGE GREER
STILL SITS AS A PRACTICING JUDGE. IN LIEU OF THE LAW, JUDGE GEORGE GREER
OBVIOUSLY ONLY HAD ONE THING IN HIS MIND DURING TERRI'S PLIGHT, AND, IT WAS NOT
THE LAW, NOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF AN INDIVIDUAL......IT WAS TO SEE
TERRI DEAD.

WHEN TIME COMES TO REELECT JUDGES IN YOUR COMMUNITY, REMEMBER JUDGE GEORGE
GREER AND WHAT HIS CORRUPT POWERS AS A JUDGE DID TO AN INNOCENT LIFE. BE
CERTAIN TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE GIVING YOUR VOTE TO, OR, REFUSE TO GIVE IT. AFTER
ALL, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE A JUDGE LIKE GEORGE GREER WHO WILL DEEM
YOU OR YOUR LOVED ONE TO YOUR GRAVE.

FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS VIDEO WORLD WIDE COMPLIMENTS OF RADIO TALK SHOW
HOST, JOHN SIPOS @ _jsipos@ij.net_ (mailto:jsipos@ij.net)

SchiavoV2email.mov

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Cheryl Ford, RN (www.Fight4Terri.com) is not affiliated with any other group
and works to protect the rights of the disabled community

142 posted on 06/10/2006 4:14:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
"Mike was talking about having, you know, around-the-clock help, physical therapy, and all of this good stuff for Terri. And he was also going to move the Schindlers in because they had no place to live. And when it came out there was only $1 million to take care of Terri for the rest of her life, there was not going to be money to do that".

WHAT????!!!

Okay, nevermind. When dealing with pathological liars, never be surprised by what comes out of their mouths.

143 posted on 06/10/2006 6:56:27 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: killjoy
My Grandfather just died two days ago. His body was shutting down and decided he did not want to be put on life support. He lasted about 24 hours before passing. Does this mean he is part of a 'death cult' in your eyes?

I'm so very sorry for your loss. Your grandfather made a wise decision in his case. It was his time. Did he happen to mention wanting to meet up with his wife? Both my mom and ex mother in law(ex bro in law told me this)stated it was time to be with their husbands. When this happens, it's time to fly home.

As for a blanket term for those who believe it is beneficial to institute euthanasia policies towards the disabled, how about nihilists? I'll try and come up with a couple of better ones, but my brain is in neutral this morning.

144 posted on 06/10/2006 7:17:43 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: 8mmMauser

I can't believe they printed that letter. It was excellent.


145 posted on 06/10/2006 7:35:05 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: killjoy
I am sorry about your grandfather. His and Terri's case are two very different cases.

I'll just mention a few of the difference: Terri never expressed the desire to die - this was fabricated years later after her estranged husband won the lawsuit for money for her rehabilitation. This estranged husband with a live-in mistress, illegitimate children, and a vested interest in her death was made her guardian. Experts were not permitted to examine her, and her medical records hidden. She was treated horribly while she still was alive. Judge Greer denied her due process - she never had a lawyer. Her parents weren't even allowed to photograph her, bring her flowers, or have normal visits with her. Then there were all the lies Michael told and the numerous laws that Judge Greer broke and has never been made accountable for. Michael tried to keep the parents from knowing where she was buried until he was ordered to do so by court. The list continues.

Terri's case was not a right to die case. It involved so much more. I recommend you read a short statement by Martin Katz on Terri Schiavo (The American Thinker, March 29, 2005) that explains it - it's also posted here on FR. Also, Mark Fuhrman has an excellent book called "The Silent Witness."

146 posted on 06/10/2006 8:02:36 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Jezebelle; 8mmMauser; cyn; pickyourpoison; tutstar; amdgmary
Hold on. Crist is clueless regarding finances. In St. Pete at his alma mater, Crist promised teachers 100K salaries. Nice work if you can get it considering teachers don't work all year.

Crist's sister is/was a school principal. I suppose she gave him this brilliant idea to help bankrupt the state.

Some teachers would be millionaires in ten years and Floridians on fixed incomes would be?

In the poor house.

I hope the voters wise up. Crist is pandering for votes WITH MY MONEY.

(we have Terri Schiavo threads steadily since 2002 and will continue to demand justice for Terri and her blood relatives.

There are judges who still need to be sitting in prison eating prison food instead of obtaining awards at banquets for killing her.) FLORIDA IS THE STARVATION STATE.

147 posted on 06/10/2006 8:59:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser; Wampus SC
The EVER MORE OBVIOUS POLICE STATE that exists in Florida is at it again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1645562/posts

148 posted on 06/10/2006 9:15:19 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

Tom Delay was interviewed by Fox News upon his departure. He talked about Terri at length. The camera showed Delay's office. Delay has a large print of Terri's portrait in his office. The portrait was done by Terri supporters from Sarasota. The original is a decent sized oil painting. Delay talked about THE CULTURE OF DEATH. When will people wake up? I guess maybe when it's personal.


149 posted on 06/10/2006 9:18:46 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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To: killjoy

your screen name is "killjoy". maybe that's giving an impression, unfair of your position?


150 posted on 06/10/2006 9:20:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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To: killjoy
My Grandfather just died two days ago. His body was shutting down and decided he did not want to be put on life support. He lasted about 24 hours before passing. Does this mean he is part of a 'death cult' in your eyes?

Your grandfather declined life support because he was dying. Terri was denied food and water because she wasn't dying.

151 posted on 06/10/2006 9:22:04 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: killjoy
Sorry about your relative. There's a major difference between natural death and a forced exit. Nobody escapes natural death and we are fighting the death lobby who push euthanasia which is illegal in most states but practiced freely anyway.

The death lobby is aligned with activist judges like www.judgegeorgegreer.com and also with George Soros and the ACLU. We take the murder of innocents seriously around here whether they are public executions like Terri Schiavo's or whether someone is a victim behind closed doors.

Adolph Hitler had a T-4 program to exterminate the population that has similarities to new dogma and propaganda which is driven by profit - millions upon millions of dollars.

Modern day profiteering by making death is a big deal. It is MONEY DRIVEN.

FLORIDA IS THE STARVATION STATE.

152 posted on 06/10/2006 9:28:11 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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To: T'wit
A Seeing Machine (the blind sheik judge greer) could use one of these:

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyid=2006-06-10T000758Z_01_N094427_RTRUKOC_0_US-SCIENCE-SIGHT.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

But, he refused Terri admittance into his courtroom which is against the ADA. Even seeing isn't believing with the corrupt, incompetent Judge Greer.

Why this crook isn't impeached and in prison is beyond me. Well, I know why he's not but someday...

153 posted on 06/10/2006 9:57:35 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org & Tom Gallagher 4 Fla Guv: www.tg2006.com)
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To: supercat

Well stated.


154 posted on 06/10/2006 10:15:47 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser
My initial comment on this thread was made because of generally being sick of listening to comments about this case. There was a time on FR that it was impossible to have any thread at all without someone trying to hijack it within the first few posts. It is very similar to all the thread hijacking taking place now because of illegal immigration. In my eyes, the thread hijacking is completely destroying FR and making the site look like it is populated by a bunch of paranoid freaks.

That said, I decided to actually look into this case for the first time. After making requests on this thread for any pointers to an intelligent debate on this topic, nobody was able to send me any. I just went and read through some of the court cases related to it.

Since I know it will only start up a flame fest, I don't know if I should post my thoughts or not. In short, I think there are a lot of people on both sides of this issue that have way too much involved in the way of agenda. Money being one of the highest on the list.

155 posted on 06/10/2006 11:30:59 AM PDT by killjoy (Same Shirt, Different Day)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I'm so very sorry for your loss. Your grandfather made a wise decision in his case. It was his time. Did he happen to mention wanting to meet up with his wife? Both my mom and ex mother in law(ex bro in law told me this)stated it was time to be with their husbands. When this happens, it's time to fly home.

My Grandmother is still alive, although just barely. I doubt, especially now, that she will be around much longer. Unfortunately being on the other side of the world I wasn't in a position to see him before he went and probably will not have a chance to see her either. :(

156 posted on 06/10/2006 11:33:15 AM PDT by killjoy (Same Shirt, Different Day)
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To: killjoy
I could no longer find the Martin Katz statement here on FR. He states, among others, ". . . We, as a society . . .have not managed, for whatever reason, to permit a mother, deluded or not, to put water onto the lips of her dying child, brain dead or not. . . . We, as a people, have so shamed ourselves, that we cannot look Mary Schindler, Terri Schiavo's mother, in the eye, and give her one good reason why WE did not allow her to give water for her dying child. How we came to this shameful point in our national existence is a question that demands examination. For our sake. For Mary Schindler, and her severely impaired child, Terri Schiavo, it is too late. We did not find it in our collective hears and souls, in our actions, to have mercy on them. . . ."

The many things that greatly bother me about this include the sadistic way Terri was treated. As someone on these threads said, "There was no favor too small for Michael to deny."

157 posted on 06/10/2006 11:52:02 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: killjoy
That said, I decided to actually look into this case for the first time. After making requests on this thread for any pointers to an intelligent debate on this topic, nobody was able to send me any. I just went and read through some of the court cases related to it.

I suspect one of the difficulties is that many Terri supporters have found that there is so much wrong with Michael's case that it's no more possible to have a reasonable debate about whether Michael's actions were proper, than it would be to debate whether water is wet or fire is hot.

Does Michael speak and behave in the manner of a sane, honest person? I have been unable to formulate any set of facts that would be consistent with his actions being sane and honest. Perhaps you could help me out.

Is Michael honest, but perhaps with a few screws loose (it would be understandable, if he was an honest person, that the stress of the situation might drive him a little crazy)? Again, try as I might I can't figure any set of facts that is consistent with his actions being those that an honest but slightly crazy person would be expected to make.

Is Michael a murderous psychopath? Perhaps. His actions and the facts of the case fit that scenario perfectly.

Is Michael simply a weak-willed guy who's being manipulated by a murderous psychopath named George Felos? Doesn't seem quite as likely, but still fits decently well with what's known of the case. If anyone can offer any other explanations to reconcile Michael's documented statements and actions with what is known and undisputed about the case, I'd like to hear them. None of the "innocent" explanations I've heard made sense a year ago; with continued revelations, they make even less sense.

158 posted on 06/10/2006 1:45:54 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Dante3
Well stated.

Thanks, though I'm hardly the first to make that observation. Actually, the exrreme efforts to prevent Terri from being given any fluids orally suggest quite strongly to me that Michael knew she would probably have been able to swallow them. After all, if she was physically incapable of taking fluids orally and fatally choked when the parents tried to give them to her, that would have been the perfect scenario for Michael (and would have been a better scenario for Terri than death by dehydration).

159 posted on 06/10/2006 2:00:35 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat

I agree.


160 posted on 06/10/2006 2:42:38 PM PDT by Dante3
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