Skip to comments.Mel Gibson's statement on his DUI arrest
Posted on 07/29/2006 1:51:47 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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That was many moons ago (beyond the statute of limitations, BTW). I've been drunk. I've been stupid. I've been drunk and stupid. Gibson made a full apology and took responsibility. Nobody was hurt or killed. He didn't use that stupid third person apology "It was terrible that these things happened," like he was a bystander and talking about something someone else did.
I've probably needed more Grace than most people on FR. I'm not going to claim high ground on Gibson because I CAN'T claim high ground on him.
BTW, bet his mug shot wasn't as good as Nolte's or Glen Campbell's.
Nah, you don't get it. You're awfully quick to attack people. Just like this Mel Gibson guy.
Exactly how respectful of someone else's life is an alcoholic who not only takes a drink, but drives home after drinking?
I am perfect.....therefore you too should be perfect.
If I was just as smart as you I would tell you all of that in Latin.....but alas, I am only mortal.
What are you on about? He's correct.
Stay away from me.
Yes, Mel could make a great movie about the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. Maybe then, I will believe he is sincere.
It's a good thing your forgiveness isn't required. I trust God to make that call.
Luk 23:34 Then said Jesus, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."
If God can forgive those who tortured and crucified his son, I pray that He will forgive Mel for his boorish behavior and hurtful words.
So what do you suggest? Should we crucify him? Stone Him? What do you think? I think we have a very tormented man. He is fighting many demons. I hope he gets the help he needs. I won't condemn him just yet.
Weird that an argument is being put forward stating that since none of us are perfect, we cannot criticise Mel. In that case, we might as well close up shop here on FR, since we do some criticising.
If Mel had used the word "Christian" where he used the word "Jews," one wonders if so many here would still be willing to give the guy a pass.
"My father never lied to me."
So we are to take that statement as meaning that Hutton Gibson never lied about the Catholic faith, but he might have lied about other things?
You're stretching. You know very well how Gibson meant his statement.
So who among us is a Saint?
BS. When you are drunk is when your true feelings come out.
He was .4 over the line for crying out loud. If he is the Alkie like you say he is, that isnt nothing.
A group of people whose job it is to protect Jews were upset with Gibson's portrayal of Jews. They called him on it. He argued back..they argued back...all the way it was supposed to be done. GIBSON SAID JEWS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE ILLS IN THE WORLD. Looks like maybe old Abe was right with his assessment of Gibson's motivation in making this film. NOW, whether that's true or not is now moot...because by saying what Mel said last night, he cannot defend himself any longer. HE SCREWED HIMSELF. GET IT NOW?
I could have written this on many Friday mornings ;-)
Please give me a specific example of Rush being anti-semitic? He has stated how he loves Netanyahu, some Israeli general that he met, and several Jewish friends who are cigar smokers. Give me a specific example of Rush being anti-semitic to back-up your cheap-shot charge.
"Has Kennedy apologized for his alcoholism? "
Which one are you referring to? ;-)
Please see my earlier apology to the other guy. I forgot to finish my thought, and it changed the meaning of my post considerably.
BUT, for what it's worth, my family spent 800 years getting killed and persecuted by the Engish, right up to when my parents came to the US, so please don't paint with such broad strokes. Hatred is what it is, and among other things, it is contageous. Best to you and yours.
Nobody is a saint but it is irrelevant.
I don't buy the argument that you have to be a saint to see what someone else is doing is reprehensible.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. The "See, I was right all along about him" crowd is in full cry today.
So what you're saying is, no apology or amends would be acceptable to you? Wow. Are you that unwilling to forgive the people you actually know, or is it just strangers?
A recently departed very dear relative of mine used to call it "liquid courage". It was only when she'd had a few drinks that she could stand up to her verbally abusive husband.
In Mel's case, it was "liquid anti-Semitism".
That statement is pure damage control.
And he does truly hate the Jewish people.
Rush is one of the best friends of Israel and Jews.
I never said he was a saint, I implied he was human. Nothing more, nothing less.
It appears that Mel is just a man after all.
Hopefully things will turn out for the best.
Trite but true.
What are those similarities? Gibson over indulges in alcohol while having a fun time and is busted by the cops. Rush addicted to pain killers in order to maintain some semblance of a normal and pain-free lifestyle.
Big difference between drinking to have fun and taking pills to alleviate chronic pain.........
Don't waste your time responding, we're already familiar with your inane arguments on all the bash Rush threads........
0.04, actually. Too much to drive, for sure, but let's be accurate.
I first listened to him from the Raleigh, NC station, when he was a two hour show from NY. When the Wilmington station picked it up, I wa glad. I listened most every day, and enjoyed the updates, and all the rest of his antics.
But, he has been given a pass by too many people for his addiction, and the surrounding mess he found himself in. He mde his own bed.
Limbaugh lied about his addiction, then hid behind a click lawyer, and went to rehab. He made the statement that he had a back problem, and it got him there. I suppose that may be true enough, but he sure played in a lot of golf tournaments. I've played golf... and I saw evidence of a BIGGGGG usage on his part.
Plus, if you believe anything of his maid's story. He is just another junkie that got caught!
Mel got caught, too! Now, he's goint to take the "pre-emptive" steps toward "rehabilitation"! Roy Black must have called!
What can he say...SORRY I SAID OUT LOUD WHAT I REALLY FEEL INSIDE? He said what he meant. He's just sorry the world now knows. What's to forgive him for? I'm being serious. Forgiveness is given for true remorse. If that's how he feels that's how he feels. But this is the way I feel.
"I know what he stands for in his life, and the faith and works of his life speak for themselves."
He's had a drinking problem his whole life. He's also an avout Catholic who apparently hates Jews.
I'm going to have to look for tha episode...it looks funny.
Btw, I know you don't agree, but I always cringe when I hear people call themselves a Christian and habitually drink alcohol. Mel talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk.
I was just thinking about that...if say Stephen Speilberg or someone high-profile had said these awful things about Christians.
Honestly, I believe that is he came out the next day with the heartfelt apology Gibson seems to have given about how awful his behavior had been, he would be forgiven by many.
Remember how an officer's use of the N-word gained an acquittal of OJ? Nothing made Cochran any happier than hearing that racial slur. Then he got to play victim, and throw the truth on the defensive.
Uh, Mel Gibson himself says he's an alkie.
And the report, as given on TMZ, said that he was observed weaving between two lanes of traffic.
That's drunk, and dangerous.
Read Gibson's statement again. He admits he lost control.
If the Romans hadn't hadn't crucified my friend at the instigation of the Jews, those of us who are Christian wouldn't have a religion. So anyone who hates Jews for that isn't thinking it through.
And just in case it gets read that way, hating Jews just because they are Jews shows one isn't thinking their religion through too.
So, when I was drunk and had told this ugly woman I loved her to get her into bed, I meant it?
Wow..thank you for that insight.
Well, whooptie freakin' do! Of course he is human. Everyone is human. Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein are Human (no, I am not saying Gibson is anywhere near that level of evil). But to say "he is only human" is meaningless.
To abhor evil, someone must first judge evil. God instructs men against "hypocrisy" commanding them to "abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9). Thus, unable to judge, and unaccustomed to abhorrence, Christians en masse become hypocrites when they obey the Hypocrites Golden Rule. For "judge not" (Mat. 7:1-5) is simply a hypocrites application of do unto others as you would have them do unto you (Mat. 7:12). "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged" (Mat. 7:2). Judge others as you would have them do unto you inverted is Judge not if you do not want to be judged. Therefore the hypocrite does not judge. As Jesus said, "Judge not you hypocrite" (Mat. 7:1, 5 KJV; Ezek. 16:52).
Jesus repeatedly taught men to judge rightly, insisting they "judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24) and He praised a man who "rightly judged" (Luke 7:43). Paul shamed the Corinthian Christians because there was no one among them willing to "judge the smallest matters" (1 Cor. 6:2). As the Apostle wrote, "He who is spiritual judges all things" for "we have the mind of Christ" (1Cor. 2:15-16).
I'm almost sure I've heard him say he's an alcoholic and suffered it during his whole adult life. His wife has almost left him because of it I believe.
Im not giving Mel a free pass on this nor am I offering an excuse for his bad and inexcusable behavior, but relapse is a very real hazard and not all that unusual for the recovering alcoholic. I know this from personal experience.
He needs to deal with the consequences of his actions, take responsibility, make appropriate amends and get back, quickly and earnestly to his personal program of recovery.
Its very sad to see his relapse made so public. I hope his failing now can eventually become his greatest strength to himself and others.
As far as his supposed ratings at his arrest understand that alcohol is a drug and as a mind-altering drug it does, when taken in excess, warp ones perceptions of ones thoughts and perceptions of that of the world around you. What you think perfectly rational while drunk is often abhorrent and irrational to you when sober.
I hope for his sake and the sake of his family and friends, he gets back on track.
I would wish this for anyone, regardless of political point of view.
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