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UDC marks another black Confederate grave
crossville-chronicle.com ^ | August 17, 2006 | By Clayta Richards / Chronicle staffwriter

Posted on 08/27/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by smug

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To: stand watie; Non-Sequitur
(to quote Dr Susan Brownmiller)

It's always entertaining when Watie actually cites a source. You have to wonder about his reading habits when he's quoting a hardcore feminist polemicist like Brownmiller. Evidence that he's really a DU troll?

Here's a quote to tell you where Brownmiller's coming from:

"Man’s discovery that his genitalia could serve as a weapon to generate fear must rank as one of the most important discoveries of prehistoric times, along with the use of fire and the first crude stone axe. From prehistoric times to the present, I believe, rape has played a critical function. It is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear."

241 posted on 08/30/2006 9:43:23 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: usmcobra
i have no idea. do you KNOW for SURE or are you listening to COMMON GOSSIP & LEFTIST spin/lies again??? (given your evident clueLESSness & reputation for evasiveness, i'm not sure that i'll believe your answer, regardless.)

also, the last time i remember it was UNFAIR & "playing dirty pool" to try "to tar a person" with the sins/innocence of another person. i'm , for example, NOT responsible for YOU being a scalawag/turncoat/troll/dunce, just because i post to you.

free dixie,sw

242 posted on 08/30/2006 9:54:05 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
btw, "snake", i was WRONG. someone besides "Mr SPIN" & i DO post to you.

i note that "the nameless,shunned one" posted something to both of us.

i have NOT & WILL NOT bother to read or respond his BILGE, evasions & LIES, though i'm sure you will.

free dixie,sw

243 posted on 08/30/2006 9:57:21 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Yeah, I'm still here pointing out your lies. Did you catch the 1860 census page showing that the people of Rockwall were counted? Chalk up another Watie lie exposed. All in a day's work for "the nameless, shunned one."


244 posted on 08/30/2006 10:03:13 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: stand watie
actually, there are TENS of THOUSANDS of "first person accounts" of similar ATROCITIES committed by the "criminals in blue". are ALL of them LYING??

No. Just imaginary.

245 posted on 08/30/2006 10:30:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 4CJ; Non-Sequitur
Joseph H. Barrett, Life of Abraham Lincoln, Cincinnati, OH: Moore, Wilstach & Baldwin, 1865, p. 827.

Turns out that Barrett is just repeating Stephens' account. Above on the same page he says, "The following reminiscences of the Hampton Roads conferrence, are taken from a Southern paper, and are understood to have been written by A. H. Stephens, or at his instance," A few paragraphs down, just above the "root" passage, he writes, "The special report made by Stephens, Hunter and Campbell, on this conference, as quoted in the article just cited from, says"...."

246 posted on 08/30/2006 11:30:10 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: usmcobra
Actually based upon the picture I'd call it an ornamental flag stolen for the purposes of the attack.

It was probibly in the lobby of the building where they were protesting.

That's a big difference then the way the Confederate flag has been used by white power elements.

You are jumping to conclusions here. The flag belonged to the family of the guy who wielded it.

Big difference re the Confederate flag? Well, it's true I'm not aware of any Confederate flags used to bop people. Perhaps you'd be interested in a description of other uses of the Stars and Stripes in those Boston demonstrations, that is when the protestors weren't throwing rocks and bottles at black kids.

They waved, not burned, American flags during nearly every demonstration. They consistently invoked the tradition of American liberty in their fight to retain it. Unfortunately, this sometimes resulted in a perverse blend of patriotism and racism, which culminated when a Charlestown youth literally speared a black attorney with a flag pole adorned with the Stars and Stripes at City Hall Plaza, a moment captured in a famous Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph.

You and I probably agree that Democrats are much more guilty of practicing racism than Republicans.

247 posted on 08/30/2006 11:34:59 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: All

One more Freeper Civil War endless thread argument lunacy ping!

I bought more popcorn after running out reading all the threads........

Sorry.


248 posted on 08/30/2006 12:40:00 PM PDT by Dazedcat (Dear God, please make it stop)
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To: Non-Sequitur
i BELIEVE you KNOW better than that. frankly, i EXPECT more of the "leader of the unionists" than THAT nonsense.

free dixie,sw

249 posted on 08/30/2006 2:14:27 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Dazedcat
we are pleased you are entertained.(sarcasm button: ON.)

free dixie,sw

250 posted on 08/30/2006 2:15:48 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
i BELIEVE you KNOW better than that.

I believe that I don't. But I do believe that I am well acquainted with your well known habit of wild exaggeration.

251 posted on 08/30/2006 2:57:06 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
sadly, for YOU, nobody believes you about that sort of thing. your reputation for spreading PROPAGANDA precedes you.

free dixie,sw

252 posted on 08/30/2006 3:00:02 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
sadly, for YOU, nobody believes you about that sort of thing. your reputation for spreading PROPAGANDA precedes you.

Even more sadly, you honestly believe that people accept your posts as fact.

253 posted on 08/30/2006 3:09:54 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: usmcobra
"Then tell us about Kirk Lyon's ties to Timothy McVeigh, and why McVeigh wore a shirt with Lincoln's picture and the words "Sic Semper Tyrannis" on it the day of the OKC bombing."

Stand and the rest of these die-hard neo-confederates would rather ignore the posted data on the likes of their own kind, such as KKK lawyer Kirk Lyons and his interconnections to the OK City bombing. They are willing to work with anyone, as long as it promotes their Lost Cause.

254 posted on 08/30/2006 3:40:02 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: 4CJ
"Root, hog, or die" was an old frontier expression:

Phrase root hog or die "work or fail" first attested 1834, Amer.Eng. (in works of Davey Crockett, who noted it as an "old saying").

According to Campbell's book, Lincoln used the expression to defend emancipation against objections. It does seem strange that there'd be argument about emancipation in the last year of the war.

Given that both Campbell and Stephens allude to the phrase, Lincoln probably said it, but consider that in the final months of the war, Confederates, who we're told had been considering freeing the slaves themselves, were trying to get around the effects of the Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln's impatience with such talk was natural.

255 posted on 08/30/2006 4:05:59 PM PDT by x
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To: x
It does seem strange that there'd be argument about emancipation in the last year of the war.

I would tend to agree, it was inevitable, and by this time, Lincoln was adamant - so many had died, he was determined that slavery would end. Given Justice Campbell's accounts (considered an abolutionist by many a Southerner), I'd say he would have had little occasion to lie about the conversation. Regardless of whether Lincoln were addressing whites or blacks, considering it was the union armies that had so mercilessly devasted the Southern farms, it was still a very callous viewpoint to hold.

256 posted on 08/30/2006 4:23:26 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: stand watie

"we are pleased you are entertained.(sarcasm button: ON.)"

free dixie,sw


Thanks stand, it just wouldn't be a civil war thread without hearing from you personally.

You made my day...........I ran out of popcorn again btw.


257 posted on 08/30/2006 4:58:23 PM PDT by Dazedcat (Dear God, please make it stop)
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To: M. Espinola
Have you seen this write up on Kirk Lyons?
258 posted on 08/30/2006 6:34:53 PM PDT by usmcobra (I got my end of the world underwear on, It's totally stain proof and aluminum.)
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To: M. Espinola
laughing AT you!

RIDICULING your STUPIDITY & BIGOTRY.

free dixie,sw

259 posted on 08/30/2006 7:22:55 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Dazedcat
by all means go to the store & get some more. this thread is FAR from DEAD.

unfortunately, some of the unionists (i can think of three (3) offhand) are also brainDEAD.

free dixie,sw

260 posted on 08/30/2006 7:25:04 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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