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Evolution moves more quickly than scientists thought
The Kansas City Star ^ | November 18, 2006 | Eric Hand

Posted on 11/19/2006 1:00:27 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger

ST. LOUIS - Evolution happens. But it can also stop and turn on a dime.

A new study of lizards in the Bahamas shows that the natural selection pressures that drive evolution can flip-flop faster than previously thought - even in months.

"Darwin was right about so many things," said Jonathan Losos, a former Washington University biologist who led the study. "In this case he was wrong. He thought that evolution must occur slowly and gradually."

The lizards and their changing leg lengths are yet another case of evolution occurring in real time. From finches that evolve longer beaks in a few years to bacteria that adapt to strange feeding regimens in days, evolution, as a science, has leapt out of musty museums and into the field.

Scientists say that, from a political perspective, the cases offer a vivid reminder of the continuous process that some people imagine proceeding only in fossilized fits and starts: First monkey, then man.

But for the scientists themselves, the cases show that evolutionary biology has, well, evolved into a predictive, experimental science like any other.

Losos had the perfect Petri dishes: 12 tiny islands in the Bahamas with small populations of insect-eating Anolis sagrei, six-inch long lizards that normally live on the ground but can adapt to life in trees.

On six of the islands, Losos introduced a predator, a large curly-tailed lizard that can gobble up the lizards. He theorized that at first, the fastest prey would survive as they ran for the trees. Natural selection would reward long legs. Then, as the little lizards adapted to life in trees, nimble twig maneuvers and shorter legs would be rewarded.

At the start of the experiment, the scientists, using dental floss nooses on the ends of 10-foot poles, caught all lizards and carefully measured their hind-limbs. After the first six months, their predictions held up. The average leg length of survivors was 2 percent longer than those that were killed. After a year, leg length was 3 percent shorter. The changes were small in absolute terms but statistically very large, said R. Brian Langerhans, a graduate student with Losos.

The study appeared Friday in the journal Science. Losos did the research while at Washington University, but left for Harvard University in June.

The lizard study echoes one of the classic cases of evolution-in-action: Darwin's finches on the Galapagos Islands. For more than 30 years, Princeton University biologists Peter and Rosemary Grant have measured changes in the finches' beaks. After extended droughts, small seeds became more scarce. In a few years, the finches evolved longer beaks to crack the larger, tough seeds that remained. Then as more plentiful times returned, the bird beaks got smaller again.

At Michigan State University, Richard Lenski is studying evolution in test tubes. For almost 20 years, he has reared 12 colonies of E. coli. They have divided more than 30,000 times - which, in terms of human generations, is longer than Homo sapiens has been around. Lenski has challenged the bacteria with strange feeding patterns - feeding them sugars, then starving them.

The colonies all adapted, quickly. But they used different genetic tricks to get there. Their DNA is now remarkably different: an example of parallel evolution.

It's difficult to know how an organism will adapt, and also how subtle environmental changes will kick evolution off in a striking new direction, said Ken Petron, a University of Cincinnati ecologist who worked with the Grants on their finches.

For example, on one trip to the Galapagos during a time of seed scarcity, the Grants expected to find the trend toward larger beaks. But a new, larger finch had colonized the island and was eating the larger seeds, Petron said. It was no longer an advantage for the smaller finches to grow larger beaks.

"It's very difficult to predict the outcome of evolution before it happens," he said.

But if biologists can get better at predicting evolution, it could have applications for areas in which humans are altering the environment and causing evolutionary pressures themselves, Langerhans said. Stanford University ecologist Stephen Palumbi has estimated a $50 billion "evolution bill" associated with the antibiotic and pesticide resistance that bacteria, weeds and insects have evolved in medicine and agriculture.

Had the experiment continued, Losos expected the lizard legs to get even shorter with successive generations. But two hurricanes in quick succession submerged the little islands. "All the living lizards were washed away. Bummer," Losos said.

Some eggs survived, however, and hatchling populations are growing. Losos plans to start the experiment over.


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To: AntiGuv
obviously don't realize that the age of the earth is not calculated based on the evolutionary timeframes but rather based on geological evidence.

Ya, like when the geologists described the Mount St. Helens eruption as causing 10,000 years of geologic action in one day. Just another set of unproven theories.

41 posted on 11/19/2006 2:09:43 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: navyguy
"Evolution is genetic change within a population. Period. Nothing more, nothing less and nothing else."

Thats what I understand about the way evo's would have us believe.

"This study is yet another study that confirms that evolution is a biological fact because it demonstrates genetic change within a population. "

This study yet again confirms that lizards and finchs basic genetic structure allows them to 'adapt' to their current biosphere.

42 posted on 11/19/2006 2:10:09 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river)
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To: PoorMuttly
Me think

methinks (mĭ-thĭngks')

43 posted on 11/19/2006 2:10:43 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Theo

I wonder if you believe in a change in allele frequency over time.

If you play at redefining evolution in order to oppose it, you lose.


44 posted on 11/19/2006 2:11:41 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: 4Liberty

Not necessarily, but it is evidence for a younger earth. Despite what was "previously thought," things like this are in conflict with neodarwinian evolution.


45 posted on 11/19/2006 2:13:02 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Celebrating my two-year anniversary! Yehaw!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
evolutionary biology has, well, evolved into a predictive, experimental science like any other.

Guess what? The lizards are still lizards.

I agree whole-heartedly, so-called "microevolution" is not a problem for the young earth creationist

re: quote above...chance can not be predictive...it just can not happen

46 posted on 11/19/2006 2:20:54 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

So, we're being told that a previously non-existent gene, the one that causes the generation of longer legs, has appeared recently in the gene pool of this lizard species. Moreover, it seems to have appeared in several separate reproducing individuals among this species more or less simultaneously. Or did I miss something?
Who said we no longer live in the Age of Miracles??!!


47 posted on 11/19/2006 2:22:08 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: guestfox01; RadioAstronomer
The more I think about it, the more I believe and know that the Bible is infallible. That being said, I watched a special that aired on the BBC a few weeks back on the birth of the universe. The scientists described, even using some of the same wording found in several translations of the Bible, the birth of the universe. Yes, I think the Bible tells us how the Earth, humans, plants, etc. got here. In a terminology that was understood by the people of the day.

Now what does this make me? Don't ask me. I believe in God Almighty. I believe that evolution happened in some form. I believe He caused it to happen. I also know I don't understand it. I don't like Intelligent Design per se and I don't think this describes my belief on the issue either. But I think about what would be more fantastic, show more care, and frankly give more glory to God. A flip of the fingers six days, and the earth is six thousand years old? Or an evolving over hundreds of millions of years that man finally comes to the point to begin to understand all of creation and even their scientists use the terms found in the Bible from thousands of years ago to describe the beginning of the universe?

RA, I ping you because I'm still torn on the man thing but for me I am beginning to see God's glory in the process of evolution itself. But I can buy your view more. So thank you to you and David Lack.

48 posted on 11/19/2006 2:24:02 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Alter Kaker

I've been consistent all along that evolution takes place on a small scale. That animals undergo physiological changes is a no-brainer.

That these changes lead to transition between monkey and man is absurd.


49 posted on 11/19/2006 2:24:02 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Celebrating my two-year anniversary! Yehaw!)
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To: higgmeister

Then why is this news? You're disagreeing with the authors, not my extrapolation.


50 posted on 11/19/2006 2:27:00 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Celebrating my two-year anniversary! Yehaw!)
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To: Theo

It all hinges on your definition. The authors bill this as "evolution" so it will phase some Darwinists to realize this kind of "evolution" is true. But in the grand scheme, small anatomical variations in species isn't evolution at all.


51 posted on 11/19/2006 2:28:48 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Celebrating my two-year anniversary! Yehaw!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

It's a beginning.............


52 posted on 11/19/2006 2:30:28 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: billybudd

First, we don't even know if these animals DNA has mechanisms to adapt built in. Legs and beaks (and who knows what else) making small adjustments could actually be a DNA programmed response to the environment the animal finds itself in.

What is even more interesting is the animal tends to return to its previous state when the environmental conditions return to their previous state.

That would seem to be a different mechanism than just "natural selection" branching off in entirely new directions.


53 posted on 11/19/2006 2:31:25 PM PST by DB
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To: aimhigh

No, actually, it's not like that at all. Granted, I'm unsure what nonsense you're trying to peddle, but whatever it is it's clearly enough nothing like what I posted.


54 posted on 11/19/2006 2:32:44 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: delacoert
Me think methinks (mĭ-thĭngks') .....................yes. Me like to speek the language of the "common" typing dog......... Gives 'em a "leg up"...so to speak!
55 posted on 11/19/2006 2:32:51 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("Character is Destiny" -- Heraclitus)
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To: billybudd

How egotistical the EVO crowd is to think that only this generation has wisdom or knowledge.


56 posted on 11/19/2006 2:35:50 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: DaveLoneRanger
No creationist has ever argued against mirco-evolution, which is the change/adaption within a species. It's the straw man in the argument of the evolution from one type of animal become another type of animal, fish to lizard, even cat to dog, or whatever.
57 posted on 11/19/2006 2:35:54 PM PST by D Rider
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To: badpacifist
It hasn't evolved the staff at the Kansas City Star yet.

The evolution of the star staff is non-existent.,

Promising mind-numbed newbies are hired to replace the old, worn out hacks when they either 1) move up to a better position somewhere else, 2) "go native" and lose their group-think propaganda mentality.

58 posted on 11/19/2006 2:36:13 PM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: DB

Huh?

That sounds very much like Lysenkoism?
Is that what you meant?


59 posted on 11/19/2006 2:36:54 PM PST by From many - one.
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To: Theo

So let me get this straight. You're lecturing Darwinists on what Darwinists believe about evolution? Can you do that with a straight face? Evolution simply refers to a change in allele frequencies over time. Nothing in Darwinian evolution posits any sort of direction to evolution. That's a creationist canard of zero validity. Before you reject science, it might be helpful to have even a passing familiarity with what it is you're rejecting. Otherwise you come off as shallow and ill informed.


60 posted on 11/19/2006 2:36:54 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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