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Mary Cheney's pregnancy affects us all
Townhall ^ | 12/07/2006 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 12/07/2006 7:16:54 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Mary Cheney’s pregnancy poses problems not just for her child, but also for all Americans. Her action repudiates traditional values and sets an appalling example for young people at a time when father absence is the most pressing social problem facing the nation. With 37 percent of American children born to fatherless families, Mary Cheney is contributing to a trend that is detrimental to all Americans who will live with the ramifications of millions of children whose anger and frustration at not knowing their father will be felt in the public schools and communities of our nation.

Mary Cheney is among that burgeoning group of adult women over age 20 that are driving the trend of women who don’t want a man in the picture, but want to have a baby. These older women are pushing out-of-wedlock birth statistics higher and higher. At a time when teen births and teen abortions are declining dramatically, older women are having more un-wed births and more abortions, including repeat abortions (indicating that they are using abortion as birth control).

Well-educated, professional Mary Cheney is flying in the face of the accumulated wisdom of the top experts who agree that the very best family structure for a child’s well-being is a married mom and dad family. Her child will have all the material advantages it will need, but it will still encounter the emotional devastation common to children without fathers.

One Georgia high school principal reported, “We have too many young men and women from single-mother families that don’t have the role models at home to teach them how to deal with adversity and handle responsibility. They’ve seen their mom work 60 hours a week just to put food on the table; they end up fending for themselves.”

When fatherless children get to be teens, the girls tend to start looking for love in all the wrong places and the boys tend to find as their role model the bad-boy celebrities of MTV, NFL and NBA.

As they grow older, fatherless children tend to have trouble dealing with male authority figures. Too often children in single-mother households end up angry at their absent fathers and resentful of the mother who has had to be a father figure, too. Typically, the boys who have a love-hate relationship with their mother end up hating all women. Numerous of them look for vulnerable women where they can act out their anger and be in control.

Mary Cheney’s action sets an example that is detrimental for mothers with less financial resources who will start down an irrevocable path into poverty that tends to be generational –– children in households without a father tend to themselves have unwed births later in life. Experts from both the left and the right cite a disastrous litany of negative outcomes that are predictable when a child grows up in a fatherless family. Such children tend to get involved in drugs, alcohol abuse, and delinquency; they tend to drop out of school and have teen pregnancies. An assistant principal in a Junior High School said that many of the behavioral problems that teachers face in the classroom stem from households without a father’s influence.

Mary’s pregnancy is an “in-your-face” action countering the Bush Administration’s pro-family, pro-marriage and pro-life policies. She continues to repudiate the work to which her father has devoted his life. Mary has repeatedly said that “studies” show that children only need a loving home. Her statement is incomplete because the experts agree that for the well-being of children, they desperately need a married father and a mother.

All those people who talk about doing what is best “for our children” need to get back to the basics: children need a married mom and dad. Children can do without a lot of the trimmings of childhood, but nothing can replace a home where the mother and dad love each other enough to commit for a lifetime and are absolutely crazy about their kids –– enough to be willing to sacrifice their own needs to see that their children get the very best.


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But Dick and Lynne are overjoyed.
1 posted on 12/07/2006 7:16:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wish these columnists would leave the family alone. This is none of their business


2 posted on 12/07/2006 7:18:00 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don't see how fathers abandoning their kids is Mary Cheney's fault. Those jagoffs were bolting long before gays started raising children of their own.


3 posted on 12/07/2006 7:20:27 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Responsibility2nd
Dick and Lynne are probably heartsick over this, but they have to evince the best outward construction that can be summoned up.

What can anyone do about adult, willful children who march to their own (often misguided) drummers?

I'd really like to know.

Leni

4 posted on 12/07/2006 7:22:56 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: ChurtleDawg
"This is none of their business"

As a society it is all of our business. It's way past the time when we all say, "hey do just what you like"

The social pathologies of selfishness end up costing everyone.

5 posted on 12/07/2006 7:23:42 AM PST by Pietro
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To: ChurtleDawg
I totally agree. In the long run it is probably better to have two parents raising a child. I have no problem with a person wanting to have a child and raise them alone if the are capable of being a good parent and doing everything possible to make sure the child is raised healthy in a loving home.
6 posted on 12/07/2006 7:24:36 AM PST by FloridianBushFan (Support Our Troops)
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To: Pietro

Good post.


7 posted on 12/07/2006 7:24:53 AM PST by jdm
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To: ChurtleDawg
What family are you referring to? Mary and Heather's relationship IS NOT a family.

Poor Dick and Lynne. I'm sure they have to say how happy they are just to keep up appearances.

8 posted on 12/07/2006 7:25:54 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Pietro
The social pathologies of selfishness end up costing everyone.

Cheney has maintained a 15-year relationship. She is now preparing to sacrifice the next few decades of her life to caring for a child.

How selfish.

9 posted on 12/07/2006 7:27:01 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, it does not "affect us all". It's a private decision. MY ankles aren't swollen; I'M not throwing up every morning.

Since the baby is already on the way, I guess all that can be done about it now is for all of these busybody writers to urge her to have an abortion.


10 posted on 12/07/2006 7:27:18 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: MinuteGal

I've read on a number of threads that Lynne Cheney wrote a novel which included "steamy lesbian sex scenes" so maybe shoe's happy about the whole thing.


11 posted on 12/07/2006 7:28:05 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Responsibility2nd

"I'm sure they have to say how happy they are just to keep up appearances."

You are "sure"? How often do you speak with them?


12 posted on 12/07/2006 7:28:55 AM PST by bonfire
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To: linda_22003

Yay, linda! Cheerleading for homosexuality as usual!

Have a nice day.


13 posted on 12/07/2006 7:29:02 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: FloridianBushFan
This book's for you:


14 posted on 12/07/2006 7:29:23 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Responsibility2nd

"Poor Dick and Lynne" would undoubtedly be the first to tell you to mind your own business. :)


15 posted on 12/07/2006 7:30:12 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Responsibility2nd
What family are you referring to? Mary and Heather's relationship IS NOT a family.

By all indicators, they will is a more stable and successful 'family' than the chaos that 40% of this nation's children must overcome.

I have no problem defining them, and celebrating them, as a "family".

16 posted on 12/07/2006 7:30:47 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: little jeremiah
I'm shocked at how many pro-homosexual posts this thread is getting!

Am I posting at Free Republic here? Or DU?

17 posted on 12/07/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Responsibility2nd; MinuteGal

The two of you are not the Cheney's, so you do not know how they are feeling or what they are thinking.


18 posted on 12/07/2006 7:32:33 AM PST by FloridianBushFan (Support Our Troops)
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To: little jeremiah

Jeri, I'm not cheerleading for homosexuality. I'm cheerleading for people making their own decisions whether you happen to approve of them or not.


19 posted on 12/07/2006 7:33:20 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Responsibility2nd

You are shocked that people don't necessarily want to butt in on others business and don't share the condemnation that runs rampant on FR over some issues?

Must not have been here long I would guess.


20 posted on 12/07/2006 7:34:43 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Wormwood
Adding Wormwood to the pro-gay side.....

You can have this book also....


21 posted on 12/07/2006 7:35:09 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Wormwood

the selfishness in this is demanding to experience motherhood and having a child, just because she can. there are plenty of children worthy of adoption that she could raise and devote her life to. just because one is capable of bearing a child doesn't mean one SHOULD, and especially if the lifestyle she has chosen doesn't encompass bearing a child as a consequence thereof. yes, it is extremely selfish of her.


22 posted on 12/07/2006 7:35:16 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Responsibility2nd

I think you're mistaken about that. We're pro- people making their own private decisions without undue interference from people who are not concerned. You know, what used to be conservatism before the busybodies got into the act, and wanted Big Government, as long as it was Big Government who would enforce their own moral code.


23 posted on 12/07/2006 7:35:23 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

no, one can just quietly express disappointment in the fact that she chose to do this. yes it's her decision. i lament it.


24 posted on 12/07/2006 7:36:42 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Responsibility2nd

What else are they gonna' say?


25 posted on 12/07/2006 7:37:42 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If you actually read this article you will notice it does not talk about homosexuality. It deals with single parenting and not having a father around. Most of the posts here have not been for pro homosexuality but instead stating it is a private issue or people saying they don't have a problem with someone having a child who is not married.
26 posted on 12/07/2006 7:38:08 AM PST by FloridianBushFan (Support Our Troops)
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To: little jeremiah
Who the hell here is "cheering for homosexuality"? I haven't seen any such posts.

In my post, I commented that while Dick and Lynne may be disgusted and appalled inside, their position in government dictates they put the best face forward that they can.

Life's realities are not black and white for them nor for any family in the world.

Leni

27 posted on 12/07/2006 7:39:13 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: linda_22003
Fine. Heather and Mary is fine. Fathers? Who needs 'em? Homosexual marriages? Sure! Why not!

Books for everybody!


28 posted on 12/07/2006 7:39:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Pietro
As a society it is all of our business.

The motto of leftists everywhere, elevating the 'good of society' above the rights of the individual.

29 posted on 12/07/2006 7:40:32 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: MinuteGal

i agree leni, i am sure there isn't a thing in the world lynne or dick could have done to dissuade her, she is a grown woman. she may even have put it off til this point, out of deference to her father's career, for all we know. in any event, i lament her decision to do this.


30 posted on 12/07/2006 7:40:43 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
there are plenty of children worthy of adoption that she could raise and devote her life to.

I'm surprised to hear such an impassioned plea in support for gay adoption on this forum.

Count me in.

31 posted on 12/07/2006 7:40:50 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: Responsibility2nd

You REALLY have your panties in a knot over this, don't you?


32 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:02 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Wormwood
"How selfish."

Bringing a child into the world w/o a father IS selfish, clearly they care more about themselves than they do the child.

33 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:10 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Wormwood
"Cheney has maintained a 15-year relationship. She is now preparing to sacrifice the next few decades of her life to caring for a child.

How selfish."

I agree with you 100%.

I may not choose this as my ideal way of bringing a child into this world. But, I'm not going to be changing the diapers or paying tuition.

I think Goldwater would agree with you too.

34 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:18 AM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: linda_22003
I think you're mistaken about that. We're pro- people making their own private decisions without undue interference from people who are not concerned. You know, what used to be conservatism before the busybodies got into the act, and wanted Big Government, as long as it was Big Government who would enforce their own moral code.

No, conservatism was never about promoting doing whatever feels good. No one is suggesting the government do anything about it. Calling something wrong that is morally wrong is conservatism. You confuse conservatism with libertarianism.

35 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:39 AM PST by Always Right
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To: FloridianBushFan
Oh, I read the article. In fact I read it twice. At least.

Here is something I've read 4-5 tiems:

Mary’s pregnancy is an “in-your-face” action countering the Bush Administration’s pro-family, pro-marriage and pro-life policies.
I get this, don't you?
36 posted on 12/07/2006 7:42:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: Wormwood

no, sorry. i happen to believe that the best home for a child has both a mom and a dad. of different sexes. but hey, you support whatever you like.


37 posted on 12/07/2006 7:44:03 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Always Right

"Doing what feels good"? You've never given birth, have you? ;)


38 posted on 12/07/2006 7:44:27 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Responsibility2nd
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39 posted on 12/07/2006 7:44:37 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: Volunteer
I think Goldwater would agree with you too.

Reagan would not, and Reagan is much more of the standard bearer than Goldwater. Goldwater defended Clinton and voted for democrats late in his life.

40 posted on 12/07/2006 7:46:41 AM PST by Always Right
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To: linda_22003
"Doing what feels good"? You've never given birth, have you? ;)

Neither have you.

41 posted on 12/07/2006 7:47:23 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Wormwood
She is now preparing to sacrifice the next few decades of her life to caring for a child. How selfish.

I had both a mother and a father when I was growing up, as I imagine a lot of us did. With that said, I wouldn't want to deny a young child the same thing.

Imagine, a mother AND a father? Since when has that been asking too much?

42 posted on 12/07/2006 7:47:33 AM PST by jdm
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To: linda_22003

It is the emotional feeling of being a mother that is the 'feel good' part, not the actual child birth.


43 posted on 12/07/2006 7:49:15 AM PST by Always Right
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To: jdm
Imagine, a mother AND a father? Since when has that been asking too much?

Honestly, I believe that is the ideal. But I'm willing to give responsible adults the benefit of the doubt as well.

44 posted on 12/07/2006 7:49:23 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: Always Right

That's exactly right, and the "doesn't feel so good" part is one of the reasons. ;)


45 posted on 12/07/2006 7:49:34 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: FloridianBushFan
people saying they don't have a problem with someone having a child who is not married.

And that's been a conservative value ... since when?

46 posted on 12/07/2006 7:49:58 AM PST by jdm
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To: Responsibility2nd
Mary’s pregnancy is an “in-your-face” action countering the Bush Administration’s pro-family, pro-marriage and pro-life policies.

That is speculation, but having a child to promote an agenda is pretty disturbing. I really hope that is not her motivation, but we may never know.

47 posted on 12/07/2006 7:52:24 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

She has never pushed an agenda yet, during her father's campaigns or public service, as far as I can see. She's stayed pretty low key overall. I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on this event as well.


48 posted on 12/07/2006 7:55:22 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: xsmommy; SoothingDave

Xs I got to agree with your #22 but add that hypocritcal heterosexuals do the same thing.

I think Dave put it best, "you can't open these cans of worms and then control the worms"

It's like children are some kind of accessory or consumer product. For the fulfillment of others.

Yes, it's sad to see the mysteries of life reduced to consumer driven "choices" and lifestyle choices.


49 posted on 12/07/2006 7:58:55 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Rick Santorum in 2008, or 2012 or whenever we get serious about Islamofascism.)
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To: ChurtleDawg
I wish these columnists would leave the family alone. This is none of their business

Yeah, we'll see about this. I'll BET you that some news outlet--like the Today Show or similar--will have regular features on the progress of Cheney's pregnancy. And they will get access. This story is absolute poison for the GOP and the media is smart enough to be all over it like stink on a monkey.
50 posted on 12/07/2006 7:59:51 AM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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