Posted on 01/29/2007 1:36:27 PM PST by Dark Skies
Should this thread be about the pros and cons of Rudy or should it be about whether Freepers can support a candidate who is part of the Republican party?
If only all the discourse were so pleasant! Supprot your candidate! 18 months IS a long time.
This is not a republican forum, it is a conservative forum. Rino Rudy is not a conservative.
The "big picture" being that we have to shut up and allow someone who represents the polar opposite of traditional Republican Party principles to be our standard bearer in 2008... Not going to happen.
Why else would you have posted it. Of course that's your intention, so as to provide further support of Rudy's credibility as a presidential candidate. It's no lie. Sorry, but you are wrong again.
I cannot think of anytime it has happened. You are even allowed to support 3rd parties on here since it is not a Republican site.
I am waiting for the answer is well. Then we can each make a decision on where we go from here.
There are those of us who do see beyond the one tick ponies and recognize the need for safety and security of our citizens, the protection against enemies foreign and domestic and defending our Constitution. These are primary concerns for me. I will leave it to others to argue the more social aspects of life.The question of whether a woman has an abortion is between her, her husband/partner, her religious belief and her physician. Since the right to an abortion is currently allowed, I will defend this right and will not have the temerity to fly in the face of the Constitution.
And should it be about party loyality in support of a guy who endorsed a Dem for NY governor in 1994? Is party loyalty just a one-way street?
Well, that's what the Republicans (and now the nation) gets for betraying their base. So, let's just repeat the same thing in 2008 and run a candidate whose views are the opposite of the Republican Base. Good idea.
It looks like it's split already. Rudy is the front running candidate of the Republican party like it or not.
At this rate I'm wonder if any Republican can win. We can't get together behind one person ... even the Dims have rallied around Hillary even when they don't particularly like her. It does not bode well for us.
'It doesn't make me a KKK member'
Your sure now right? s/ :)
I'll put my Republican credentials up against yours ANY day. First, lets see if you're an actual member of the Republican Party or not. Your turn.
Right, its my assertion. But it goes well beyond a simple matter of words and you know it. The truth speaks for itself. A good conservative knows all about the historic truth of the Reagan family. Nancy Reagan raised Patty and Ron jr. We know how they've turned out. Liberal. Maureen and Michael were more in touch with their fathers politics. Nuff said.
So now you're calling opposition to a million dead children a year a one-trick-pony.
There are those of us who do see beyond the one tick ponies and recognize the need for safety and security of our citizens,
Unless they happen to be fetuses, and then they are one-trick-pony bait.
the protection against enemies foreign and domestic and defending our Constitution. These are primary concerns for me. I will leave it to others to argue the more social aspects of life.The question of whether a woman has an abortion is between her, her husband/partner, her religious belief and her physician.
You left out the fetus. I guess the fetus being a human life carries no weight in your moral calculus.
Since the right to an abortion is currently allowed, I will defend this right and will not have the temerity to fly in the face of the Constitution.
OH MY GOD. YOU JUST CALLED ABORTION A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
I know you don't like it, but you'll have to live with it.
The National Abortion Rights Action League had Rudy address their "Champions of Choice" luncheon in 2001.
I know you don't like it, but you'll have to live with it.
You don't get to say who is a Republican. The Republican party has endorsed Rudy and he has repeatedly run as a Republican.
He MAY win the REPUBLICAN primary. He MAY be the next Republican president.
He may not be your choice.
If that fails and the republicans nominate someone else, then I will vote for them. They might not be my first choice, my second choice, or even my fifth choice, but I do choose them over Hillary or Obama or one of the other nightmares.
I do not have a problem with your fears about a Rudy run for president. I respect it and hope to see it on threads. I have not known you to be nasty while expressing your opinion.
If we could bring back the civility, then these threads would be alot less about defending ourselves and debating the issues. Then maybe we can change minds and influence people once more. What a welcome change.
Well then - I guess that means that at least 80% of the people who post here consider themselves Republicans should be off this forum then.
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