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O'Donnell, Sheen Back 9/11 Conspiracy Theories (Mark Cuban to Bankroll Movie?)
WCBS-TV ^ | 03/22/2007 | Andrew Kirtzman

Posted on 03/24/2007 1:32:36 AM PDT by Verax

O'Donnell, Sheen Back 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Stars Cite Movie As Evidence Of Government Conspiracy

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Andrew Kirtzman
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(CBS) NEW YORK A controversial new film about 9/11 is raising eyebrows, not only for its content, but also for the people involved in the project: Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen.

The sitcom actor and talk show hostess have both become spokespeople for the 9/11 conspiracy movement.

"If the government is lying about flight 93, is it hard to believe the rest is a lie?"That line can be heard on the video "Loose Change," which has been floating around the Internet for years, but now Sheen is in talks with Magnolia Pictures to narrate a new version of the video and redistribute it.

Sheen believes the government may have been behind the attacks, and said so in a recent interview.

"I have a hard time believing a fireball traveled down the elevator over 1100 feet, and still had the explosive energy to destroy the lobby as it was described," Sheen said on "The Alex Jones Show."

Meanwhile, O'Donnell has been using her Web site to reprint excerpts from the 9/11 conspiracy site, Whatreallyhappened.com.

The conspiracy theorists believe that the government blew up the twin towers and covered up the evidence by making it appear that commercial airplanes flew into the buildings. They also believe al-Qaida had nothing to do with the attacks. "I know it's hard to imagine the government would intentionally murder almost 3000 innocent people, but once you begin to accept that possibility you can never go back to the 19 Arabs," the movie's narrator goes on to say.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


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Above video shows BBC reporting colapse of WTC building 7 BEFORE IT HAPPENED

Building is still standing in the background). Fast forward to minute 14:40

Does this interest anyone in the slightest??

1 posted on 03/24/2007 1:32:39 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax

God knows such a picture couldn't be faked.


2 posted on 03/24/2007 1:34:01 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Verax

Does this interest anyone in the slightest??

Take your meds


3 posted on 03/24/2007 1:34:27 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Verax
Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen

Please, Dubya... Declare martial law and lock these moonbats up in the deepest, darkest dungeon you've got.

4 posted on 03/24/2007 1:39:49 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Verax
Why would the BBC report this information before it happened--while all the other networks on the planet Earth reported otherwise?

Couldn't be that your little video is cooked, or at the very least mistaken?

Or are all the television reporters on the planet Earth in cahoots and the BBC reporter just jumped the gun a little? Has she been silenced? (Why isn't she talking about this?)

See, these conspiracy theories collapse once you actually THINK for a few seconds...

5 posted on 03/24/2007 1:42:57 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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***Does this interest anyone in the slightest??***

They knew well ahead of the time of it's collapse that it was going to collapse because there was a visible bulge in the building. It was reported that it might collapse or was collapsing and then misreported by others that it had collapsed. See this webpage for more info -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/02/index.html


6 posted on 03/24/2007 1:50:31 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Darkwolf377
See, these conspiracy theories collapse once you actually THINK for a few seconds...

Are you saying your questions alone "collapse" the theories?

7 posted on 03/24/2007 2:01:14 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax
Are you saying your questions alone "collapse" the theories?

No--if you read what I wrote, I believe that THINKING collapses these theories.

Try it and see.

8 posted on 03/24/2007 2:14:37 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Verax; Elyse
No comment on Elyse's link?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/02/index.html

Kinda answers all your questions, doesn't it?

If not, what's YOUR theory?

9 posted on 03/24/2007 2:16:38 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Elyse
There's not "visible bulge" mentioned in the FEMA report

Says there was only very minor damage.

10 posted on 03/24/2007 2:18:30 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Elyse

We're wasting our time with someone who thinks the Federal Reserve killed Kennedy. (Look it up.)


11 posted on 03/24/2007 2:22:29 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Verax

Here is yet another page that will show you that many people knew well ahead of time that the building was in danger of collapsing. It is very easy to see how newsmen misunderstood the report that it was "collapsing or had collapsed" and reported that it had actually collapsed.

If you still believe the nutter conspiracy story after reading it, then I'm sorry I can't help you anymore, you will need to seek professional help.

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm


12 posted on 03/24/2007 2:24:33 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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Many conspiracy fantasists will go on about the FEMA report (which was premilinary and which led to the more detailed NIST report which will be published later this year) saying that the collapse initiation due to diesel fires had "a low probability of occurring". They take this to mean that it wasn't obvious that the building was going to collapse. It means nothing of the sort. The signs of the collapse developed over a long period - they were the bulge, the flames and smoke, and the creaking and leaning of the building. What FEMA is talking about is the events which led to these signs. It was obvious to the FDNY fire crews at the scene as the day progressed that the building was going to collapse. That is why they cleared an area around the building several hours before the collapse. Anybody who claims that the only people who knew the building was going to collapse must have been told by the people who were going to demolish the building has to include the firefighters in the subsequent cover-up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html#commentsanchor

Later.

13 posted on 03/24/2007 2:26:42 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Verax

http://www.counterpunch.org/darkfire11282006.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7___silverstein.html
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf
http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch5.pdf
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.pdf


14 posted on 03/24/2007 2:27:34 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Darkwolf377
Read her blog

You have to admit, that's pretty "thin".

...the CNN reporter who had talked about the building "either collapsed or is collapsing" also had it clearly in shot behind him, but he acknowledged he couldn't see very clearly from where he was standing.

15 posted on 03/24/2007 2:27:48 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax

sometimes...a guy named CUBAN wants to produce this film...oh my God you do like the ironic touch don't you.


16 posted on 03/24/2007 2:29:38 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Find out what brand the Ethiopians are drinking and send a case to all my generals.)
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To: Verax

The sitcom actor and talk show hostess

Television has ruined America

I don't own one

lowest common denominator


17 posted on 03/24/2007 2:31:36 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Find out what brand the Ethiopians are drinking and send a case to all my generals.)
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OK OK OK!!!! I admit it! I faked Pearl Harbor in my parents basement...after all these years the guilt of all the millions who died in the resulting war has gotten too me...I did it with a pinhole camera and some 4th grade friends of mine in the neighborhood , they dressed in their cracker jack sailor costumes and we stole some fire crackers and .. and....OH MY GOD!! WHAT HAVE I DONE??!! Oh the humidity...sob sob sob...


18 posted on 03/24/2007 2:36:34 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Find out what brand the Ethiopians are drinking and send a case to all my generals.)
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To: Verax
Read her blog You have to admit, that's pretty "thin".

What's pretty thin is your inability to come up with YOUR theory about all this--thin or not, every party involved in this has offered up an explanation.

Again--what's YOURS?

19 posted on 03/24/2007 2:38:54 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Verax

Let me get this straight. Are you saying that you actually believe that our government was involved in a conspiracy and engineered the 9/11 tragedy?


20 posted on 03/24/2007 2:41:01 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Verax
A photographer named Tom Franklin was near Building 7 at around 4pm. He remarked, "Firemen evacuated the area as they prepared for the collapse of Building Seven. We were catching out breath, drinking water and juice, when I decided to walk back towards the debris. It was between 4 and 5pm. I would say I was 150 yards away when I saw the firefighters raising the flag."

This strongly indicates that somebody told the firefighters to stay away from Building 7 because it was about to collapse. Why would firefighter stay away from a building unless the knew it was going to collapse? No fire had ever caused the collapse of a steel building before and there were only two small fires that were blazing.

Why were the firefighters warned to stay away from buildings while the people in the twin towers were ordered to STAY IN the buildings AFTER both planes had hit?

Before either of the twin towers collapsed, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and his associates were told to leave the headquarters they had set up within Building 7.

"We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News that morning, "and it did collapse before we could get out of the building."

Despite this, Giuliani fled WTC 7 at least eight hours before it collapsed. How did he know that the twin towers were going to collapse if it was such an unprecedented occurance? Why didn't the firefighters on the ground get the same warning?

21 posted on 03/24/2007 2:50:43 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax

Are you going to answer my question?


22 posted on 03/24/2007 2:53:15 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Elyse
Do you find it inconceivable Elyse?

It's been planned before

"A series of well coordinated incidents will be planned to take place in and around Guantanamo to give genuine appearance of being done by hostile Cuban forces."

"Such a plan would enable a logical build-up of incidents to be combined with other seemingly unrelated eventes to camouflage the ultimate objective and create the necessary impression of Cuban rashness and irresponsibility on a large scale..."


23 posted on 03/24/2007 3:04:59 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax

So I saw it on TV, two planes, hit the towers, before or after it happened. Dec 7, 1941 was that a fake also?


24 posted on 03/24/2007 3:06:41 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Verax

You are a freaking nutcase. Our President and government did not murder 3000 innocent people and it's disgusting that you are even suggesting that it was possible.


25 posted on 03/24/2007 3:08:25 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Verax
but also for the people involved in the project: Rosie O'Donnell and Charlie Sheen.

OK some deep thinkers there

26 posted on 03/24/2007 3:12:38 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's Conservapedia)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski Senate Testimony February 2007

If the United States continues to be bogged down in a protracted bloody involvement in Iraq, the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam at large.

A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the benchmarks; followed by accusations of Iranian responsibility for the failure; then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a “defensive” U.S. military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

A mythical historical narrative to justify the case for such a protracted and potentially expanding war is already being articulated.

27 posted on 03/24/2007 3:47:58 AM PDT by Verax
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"One day after 9/11 the perfectly unscathed passport of Satam Al Suqami, one of the alleged 19 hijackers, was found several blocks from Ground Zero but seven out of 8 Black Boxes (made from the most indestructible alloys known to man) were completely destroyed beyond repair"

- From The Movie Loose Change

THINK!


28 posted on 03/24/2007 4:53:52 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax

Express yourself -- Mark Cuban's email address:

mark.cuban@dallasmavs.com


29 posted on 03/24/2007 4:59:12 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Verax

ExLax for Verax -- he is so full of sh!t -- he needs a triple dose.


30 posted on 03/24/2007 5:03:10 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Verax

It was the Jews.

You should know that TROLL!!


31 posted on 03/24/2007 5:05:29 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Verax
"covered up the evidence by making it appear that commercial airplanes flew into the buildings."


That would be one hell of a trick!


I like my conspiracy theories just as much as the next guy but, I believe what I saw that morning.
32 posted on 03/24/2007 5:14:44 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Semi-Conservatism Won't Cut It)
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To: Verax
I am concerned about the report that 30% of Americans believe this. It is an especially dangerous example of malignant narcisism. Although the Popular Mechanics investigative team says this is the most investigated event in history, the narcisist trusts his own limited sources and expertise more than all of the eye witnesses and specialists who have analyzed more extensive evidence with the benefit of greater expertise.

Narcisists look out on the world and see only themselves projected. The rest of us live in an interdependant world where we rely on and benefit from the expertise of others in many fields. These narcissists wrongly believe that they are the smartest ones around. One main difference between today and the world of my youth is that we used to ridicule stupidity and shut it down. Now the ignorant and stupid impose their nonsense on us at every turn.

I have no interest, at all, in what Rosie O'Donnell says in conflict with the views of the best structural engineers in the biz.

Regarding the screenshot, what is it supposed to prove? One historian says that if you go to Normandy Beach and look at the news reports displayed of the invasion, you will see that all of them were wrong. They call journalism the first draft of history. In the confusion of the heat of the moment they get somethings wrong. That is not evidence of conspiracy.

33 posted on 03/24/2007 5:20:49 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Verax

34 posted on 03/24/2007 5:24:34 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax
you are a gullible paranoid idiot.
35 posted on 03/24/2007 5:26:47 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: Verax; Darkwolf377
Are you saying your questions alone "collapse" the theories?

Are you saying that your questions alone "support" the theories...?

36 posted on 03/24/2007 5:56:54 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: ClaireSolt
One main difference between today and the world of my youth is that we used to ridicule stupidity and shut it down. Now the ignorant and stupid impose their nonsense on us at every turn.

Back in the mid 90's, when the innernet was just ramping up, a college professor of mine said, "Today, almost anyone can publish...and that might not be such a good thing." At the time, I thought it was an incredibly elitist pronouncement, but now...

37 posted on 03/24/2007 6:08:39 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Verax

I knew Mark Cuban was a PUNK the first time I laid eyes on him!! A PUNK KID.


38 posted on 03/24/2007 6:10:15 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Verax

We are still at war with terrorist. How is this not giving aid and comfort to our enemies?


39 posted on 03/24/2007 7:18:43 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Darkwolf377
Or are all the television reporters on the planet Earth in cahoots and the BBC reporter just jumped the gun a little? Has she been silenced? (Why isn't she talking about this?)

See, these conspiracy theories collapse once you actually THINK for a few seconds...

Let's see. For this to have been a success, most of the MSM, the NSA, CIA, Port Authority, Building management, Building security, fire and police, as well as whatever military was involved, would have all had to be complicit....and remained silent.

There's not a national security issue that hasn't been leaked out to the NY Times since 9/11. How could this, arguably the greatest coverup in history, remained such a secret?

40 posted on 03/24/2007 7:25:46 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Verax

As complicated a conspiracy as this would be, it no doubt would have had to have been conceived and implementation started by your false idol Slick Willy.


41 posted on 03/24/2007 8:24:31 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Verax

"I don't believe in the moon landing nor The Holocaust.
Our technology is from aliens and I don't mean Mexicans. "

42 posted on 03/24/2007 8:30:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Verax

43 posted on 03/24/2007 8:30:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: Verax
Wow, lol

I don't mind taking on all of you, but give me something to work with...nothing but sissy flames.

I thought it was LIBS who were all emotion and no reason. Is this something that's not open for discussion?

Show a little more respect for a veteran Freeper

44 posted on 03/24/2007 9:25:38 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax
Hey Chuck, Write me another long email that I can delete without opening.
45 posted on 03/24/2007 9:34:46 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Verax

Just to let you know, I live in Dallas and was a Mavericks fan. After I heard Cuban was bankrolling this, I've switched my allegiance to the San Antonio Spurs.


46 posted on 03/24/2007 9:36:51 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: ClaireSolt
#33

Lets look at those numbers again...

Zogby Poll

US government and 9/11 Commission are covering up 42%
Bush exploited Sept. 11th attacks 44%
Reinvestigate the attacks 45%

Angus-Reid

53 per cent of respondents think the Bush administration is hiding something, and 28 per cent believe it is lying.

47 posted on 03/24/2007 9:49:54 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

- U.S. President James Madison

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death".

- Adolph Hitler

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

- Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened".

- Josef Stalin

48 posted on 03/24/2007 9:52:37 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Verax

"We will conquer you from within." Kruschev


49 posted on 03/24/2007 10:39:14 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Verax
"interest..?"

Yeah, it interests me. It interests me to learn the name of my enemy. Thanks.


50 posted on 03/24/2007 10:59:13 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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