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Successful FAA Testing of Its Fuel Tank Safety System, to Prevent TWA 800 Type Explosions
PRNewswire ^ | 3 May 2007

Posted on 05/04/2007 10:51:10 AM PDT by Hal1950

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J., May 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Phyre Technologies, Inc., a San Diego based technology development company successfully demonstrated its GOBIGGS(tm) fuel tank safety system at the FAA's Atlantic City Technology Center. GOBIGGS(tm) (Green On-Board Inert Gas Generation System), is the first environmentally friendly system designed to protect aircraft from fuel tank explosions like TWA 800. This is the result of several years' development in the anticipation of a pending FAA ruling, requiring improved fuel tank safety systems on commercial passenger aircraft.

Over two weeks, various flight conditions were tested. This included ground operations, multiple rate accents, descents, and high altitude cruising in a variety of warm and cold fuel tank conditions. Throughout all phases of operations, the gases in the fuel tank were maintained outside of the flammability envelope, protecting the aircraft fuel tank from internal explosive conditions.

CEO Stuart Robertson stated, "We are immensely proud of the test results. The performance of the device exceeded even our expectations. The successes of the last two weeks, in conjunction with our recent agreements with Rolls-Royce North American Technology Inc, give us the ability to take the technology to the next level."

In addition, the technology is "green". Unlike existing fuel inerting technology that exhausts fuel vapor into the environment, Phyre's GOBIGGS(tm) system uses a state of the art catalyst design that converts the fuel vapor into an inert gas that is recycled back into the fuel tank.

Phyre Technologies, Inc. is a closely held San Diego company, specializing in de-oxygenation, thermal stability, and fire prevention technologies, for stationary, mobile, air, and maritime industries.


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KEYWORDS: phyretechnologies; tinfoilalert; twa800
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1 posted on 05/04/2007 10:51:17 AM PDT by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950

Yeah...it’s missile-proof. =P


2 posted on 05/04/2007 10:51:59 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

Actually, it probably is.


3 posted on 05/04/2007 10:54:17 AM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: Hal1950

Has this failure mode ever occurred on an aircraft other than TWA 800? Have the same conditions ever been present elsewhere?


4 posted on 05/04/2007 10:54:27 AM PDT by toast
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To: Hal1950

I guess they mount a anti missle - missle system in them


5 posted on 05/04/2007 10:55:07 AM PDT by clamper1797 (The Democrats are the party of bread & circuses)
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To: Hal1950

What about shoe bombs???


6 posted on 05/04/2007 10:57:55 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: toast
Hey! It’s GREEN, this technology has the moral high go=round. We are not supposed to question it!
7 posted on 05/04/2007 10:58:28 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Hal1950

Flares and Chaff?


8 posted on 05/04/2007 11:01:52 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692 P100 in 07?)
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To: Hal1950

Lemmee guess....they used green wires outside the fuel tank?......


9 posted on 05/04/2007 11:03:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: toast
Has this failure mode ever occurred on an aircraft other than TWA 800? Have the same conditions ever been present elsewhere?

Yes. Accidental center fuel tank explosions have occured in two Boeing 737s.

10 posted on 05/04/2007 11:04:03 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Any on 747’s?


11 posted on 05/04/2007 11:05:34 AM PDT by Edgerunner (keep your powder dry...)
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To: Strategerist

Probably when they purged with O2 by mistake.


12 posted on 05/04/2007 11:07:00 AM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Edgerunner

No.

Catastrophic airliner mechanical failure modes are, obviously, rare, or planes would be falling out of the sky left and right.

Only one engine has fallen off a DC-10 in flight, for example.


13 posted on 05/04/2007 11:07:38 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Oberon
Yeah...it’s missile-proof. =P

And Democrat, terrorist-loving, spineless President resistant to boot!

14 posted on 05/04/2007 11:07:51 AM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: toast

Yes.


15 posted on 05/04/2007 11:08:39 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Strategerist
Much older versions of the fight 800 747 too. The 747 had already had the retro to prevent such a problem. Most of the pump motors are encased in a non conductive epoxy resin type material. It won't a fuel pump short that caused the explosion, IMHO.

Ever wonder why the Feds sealed the evidence, and destroyed some, from the public after the 'official' explanation? IMHO, if it were true about a fuel pump spark, there should be no reason to seal and destroy the evidence.

16 posted on 05/04/2007 11:09:11 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Hal1950

Too funny. They need to be dealing with the real reason TWA flight 800 went down.

Missle attack, just release the FAA video’s of the radar images.


17 posted on 05/04/2007 11:09:31 AM PDT by stockpirate (Al Qaeda is in the United States, they are in the House and Senate, Democrats all!)
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To: Edgerunner

TWA 800.


18 posted on 05/04/2007 11:09:33 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Strategerist
Much older versions of the flight 800 747 too. The 747 had already had the retro to prevent such a problem. Most of the pump motors are encased in a non conductive epoxy resin type material. It won't a fuel pump short that caused the explosion, IMHO.

Ever wonder why the Feds sealed the evidence, and destroyed some, from the public after the 'official' explanation? IMHO, if it were true about a fuel pump spark, there should be no reason to seal and destroy the evidence.

19 posted on 05/04/2007 11:09:52 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Oberon

Probably the same missile that hit the Pentagon.


20 posted on 05/04/2007 11:10:10 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: RSmithOpt

There are way too many areas of knowledge where FR for some reason gets all of its information from WingNutDaily.


21 posted on 05/04/2007 11:11:21 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Hal1950

Next they need to address the problems of fairies and gremlins taking down aircraft.


22 posted on 05/04/2007 11:11:24 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Edgerunner
I would like some links for such explosions on 737s, if possible. And maybe there is a compare and contrast article between them and the 747 explosion.
And maybe this is a heads up for more problems in the air.
23 posted on 05/04/2007 11:12:21 AM PDT by TWhiteBear
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To: U S Army EOD
Probably the same missile that hit the Pentagon.

Or the "Tomahawk" missile that Jack "I'm a blithering idiot and raving loon" Cashill claimed his sooper-dooper-secret Navy source said hit TWA 800.

24 posted on 05/04/2007 11:13:09 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TWhiteBear

One was in Thailand, other was in the Philippines. Easy to google up. Being overseas neither got much publicity in the US.


25 posted on 05/04/2007 11:14:22 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: toast
Has this failure mode ever occurred on an aircraft other than TWA 800? Have the same conditions ever been present elsewhere?

At least twice. In 1990 a Philippines Air 737 and a Thai Air 737 both had explosions in their center wing fuel tank, fortunately while on the ground.

26 posted on 05/04/2007 11:14:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Strategerist

That could have done it, maybe the 747 hit a wave crest instead, if it was that low.


27 posted on 05/04/2007 11:15:23 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Strategerist
There are way too many areas of knowledge where FR for some reason gets all of its information from WingNutDaily.

Yes it's too bad everyone doesn't get their information from official Clinton Administration sources.

Can you believe these kooks can't accept the CIA theory of an airplane with it's nose blown off accelerating and climbing in level flight? What a bunch of crackpots, I tell you.

28 posted on 05/04/2007 11:15:40 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: U S Army EOD

[snerk!]


29 posted on 05/04/2007 11:16:36 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Strategerist
...Or the "Tomahawk" missile that Jack "I'm a blithering idiot and raving loon" Cashill claimed...

Yeah, that was a real winner. I'm not sure the Navy could get a Tomahawk to hit an airplane in flight even if they WANTED to.

30 posted on 05/04/2007 11:17:51 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Hal1950
It always struck me as unusual that Boeing raced out and admitted that TWA flight 800 was their fault even before all the wreckage had been fished out of the water, or the NTSB had finished their investigation. It is my experience that airframe manufacturers never like to admit fault no matter how damning the evidence, and certainly they would not usually admit fault with litigation still pending. It never made sense that they would race out and shout it from the rooftops that this explosion was caused by a manufacturing defect and nothing more. I guess I’m too cynical to believe they just wanted the truth to be known. I suspect something else happened and Boeing and our government conspired to cover it up.
31 posted on 05/04/2007 11:22:22 AM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: Strategerist

Hadn’t heard that before. That’s good to know.

Can you provide a link?


32 posted on 05/04/2007 11:26:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Hal1950

More TWA 800 propaganda...


33 posted on 05/04/2007 11:33:02 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: stockpirate

Or release the video shot from the outdoor patio of that restaurant.


34 posted on 05/04/2007 11:40:42 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Hal1950

“system uses a state of the art catalyst design that converts the fuel vapor into an inert gas that is recycled back into the fuel tank.”

Hillbillies would use a heated exhaust converter and turn it into pollution (CO2).


35 posted on 05/04/2007 11:44:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Strategerist

I think they found it and fixed it (sort of).


36 posted on 05/04/2007 11:45:48 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: TChris

spineless, yes - like most libs, they don’t want to acknowledge that there is a threat, because if they did, they’d be expected to DO something about it.

Better to come up with fake crises like global warming, racism, and “wealth disparity”.


37 posted on 05/04/2007 11:48:55 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Next they need to address the problems of fairies and gremlins taking down aircraft.

A little digression from the thread - this reminds me of one of my favorite Looney Tunes episodes from the WW2 era: 'Falling Hare'.

Gremlin (hitting the nose of a bomb with a sledgehammer): 'Blockbuster bombs don't go off unless hit them jussssst right'

Bugs Bunny: 'Oh yeah?'

G: 'Yeah.'

BB (pondering for a moment): 'Hey Mac ... let me take a whack at it'

(Bugs then takes the sledgehammer, slides the Gremlin away with his foot. He then winds up to give the bomb a good ol' slam with the sledge, then ...)

BB: 'WHAT AM I DOIN'????'

38 posted on 05/04/2007 11:50:55 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Deguello

Or, admit as evidence the testimonies of 150 eye witnesses and around half mention orange streaks originating from the ocean surface traveling upward, and then the fire balls.


39 posted on 05/04/2007 11:52:48 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Hal1950
Successful FAA Testing of Its Fuel Tank Safety System, to Prevent TWA 800 Type Explosions

The best way to prevent TWA 800-type explosions is to kill Muslim extremists and deprive them of anti-aircraft missiles.

40 posted on 05/04/2007 11:53:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: ElkGroveDan

First case too that I’ve ever known the CIA to be experts of airliner flight characteristics ahead of the FAA and the NTSB.


41 posted on 05/04/2007 11:55:26 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: chaos_5
Hey! It’s GREEN, this technology has the moral high go=round. We are not supposed to question it!

The color used by Islamic militants...

42 posted on 05/04/2007 11:58:20 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Old Professer

Can’t say I’ve ever heard of taking hydrocarbons and air and converting them into an inert gas before. Let me guess, you burn the hydrocarbon in air and then pump the CO, NO, No2, CO2, other minor gases, and H2O back into the fuel tank, right? How come no details more and just how they’re doing that? Smoke and mirrors BS to the sheeple.


43 posted on 05/04/2007 12:01:05 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: stockpirate
And what type of missile would that be?

It was too high for a MANPAD and the damage was in the wrong area for an IR missile anyway. Additionally, too much damage was done for the typical MANPAD warhead.

Did the USN shoot it with an SM2? That would be fascinating, as they got an entire crew to keep the secret, as well as the fellows on shore that had to account for a missing missile. And why would we shoot one of our own airliners? The area is no where near any warning areas, and no missile ops were NOTAMed.

For unexplained reasons, eyewitness accounts of plane crashes are notoriously unreliable, even among knowledgeable witnesses.

Any conspiracy is possible if you accept the idea that you can get 500 otherwise disinterested people to keep silent.

44 posted on 05/04/2007 12:07:31 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Strategerist
The bum cargo door locking mechanism didn't help the DC-10, either. I don't remember how many planes suffered catastrophic decompressions before the problem was located and fixed.

Too late for the airframe to continue service as a passenger transporter, though.

But soon enough to function as a cargo plane.

Ironic, no?

45 posted on 05/04/2007 12:10:15 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Oberon
=P

"P"? For Pierre? I think he's dead.

46 posted on 05/04/2007 12:11:55 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Hal1950

Yes, and how does this avert missles from breaching the plane?


47 posted on 05/04/2007 12:16:54 PM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Can you believe these kooks can't accept the CIA theory of an airplane with it's nose blown off accelerating and climbing in level flight?

Actually it was either an FBI or FAA theory, but I'll never buy it. Supposedly Flight 800 zoom climbed 3,000 feet, wings level, after its nose was blown off by a center fuel tank explosion. Without pilot or autopilot input (both gone from Flight 800) any plane in a zoom climb would've quickly fallen off on one wing, stalled, and augered in. The odds against this official scenario are probably about one trillion to one, which is why I'll never buy it.

One more note -- the official scenario posited a fuel probe (used to measure fuel level) caused the center fuel tank explosion. People who talk about the explosion being caused by a fuel pump spark are even more poorly informed than WorldNut Daily readers.

48 posted on 05/04/2007 12:23:09 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: ME-262
It always struck me as unusual that Boeing raced out and admitted that TWA flight 800 was their fault even before all the wreckage had been fished out of the water, or the NTSB had finished their investigation.

I'm not aware that Boeing has ever admitted fault though they agreed to make the changes the FAA ordered. Can you point me to the documentation where they did?

49 posted on 05/04/2007 12:38:39 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Hal1950
Over two weeks, various flight conditions were tested

Referencing the OFFICIAL FBI report on TWA 800, Whitehouse Security Adviser Richard Clark officially stated the plane continued to climb another 1,500 ft AFTER the nose was blown off. I'd like to see that duplicated.

50 posted on 05/04/2007 12:44:09 PM PDT by drypowder
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