It costs $200 over the Ultra Carry but she really liked the styling and if that what it took to get her into 1911s, so be it. She also finds shooting it to be "fun".
Posted on 11/17/2008 6:46:59 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
I am currently thinking about getting a Kimber .45 Custom II, but am probably going to put it on hold as I would like a gun for CCW.
I tried my dad's Ruger LCP and it was very nice and light, but I would like greater stopping power with a CCW. So I was thinking about taking the plunge and getting a Kimber Ultra Carry .45. Does anyone here have one? And if so, how accuarate are they? A 3 inch barrel is about the same as the Ruger LCP I think, and I am concerned about its accuracy.
Many TIA
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It costs $200 over the Ultra Carry but she really liked the styling and if that what it took to get her into 1911s, so be it. She also finds shooting it to be "fun".
but i am sure you know all this.
the LCP using hollow point ammo can have the same impact as a 45 cal on the body. It is legal here in Arizona and it ensures that the round does not go through and hit someone else. Hollow points can and do one hell of a lot of damage to the flesh.
I love my “raptor”, and, btw my back up back up is a glock 27.....
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Two to the center and one to the head,THEN check the target for response......
Any weapon you buy won’t be of much use if you are not comfortable with it. An effectively used .22 can be far more practical and effective than a .44 AutoMag, depending on the person.
There is a long list of things to consider when trying to find what is the right pistol for you. Here are some I think are important.
1) A gun does not make you a superman, it does not guarantee that you will “win” or gives you “control” over all situations, and if you think it is anything more special than any other tool, it may actually be a problem for you when you might need it. The situation is always bigger than the tool.
2) A gun is not appropriate for all situations, and if it isn’t, it fills up a hand that you might need for something else. This is why police really like Tasers, because they can be used in the huge gray area between doing nothing and shooting someone.
3) A “one shot quick kill” is the exception, not the rule. Do not think of firing a bullet as ending a situation, but beginning a situation. You can miss, or just graze them. They might advance on you if hit, or retreat. Trying to get away, they might go into another room deeper in your home, or dash outside. They might be clear headed or drunk or drugged up or insane. If they are armed, they might shoot back or throw things. As soon as they see you, they might put their hands up.
So you have to be mentally prepared for just about anything. Often, anything that does not involve shooting or shooting any more.
4) For heaven’s sake, identify your target. This may not be easy, as it may be dark and you don’t have your night vision. You may be sluggish from sleep or drink, yourself.
5) Make sure your safety is off or on, as is appropriate.
I've been working on the second half of 'two center mass, one to the head' of late.
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Phoenix Arms HP22LR. True pocket gun so small you can also carry an extra mag along. Head shot or bladderregion, no recoil so you can zip thrre quick on target and observe results. I carry nine plus one though mag will hold ten (I don’t like to leave the mag spring completely compressed all the time and alternate mags when I think about it. Has available 5 inch barrel but carry with a 3 inch, stainless. ~$180 in kit with two mags and two barrels. Fits in a pants pocket ready to roll if needed, invisible to lookers. I’ve put three thousand rounds through the first barrel (now on second barrel) with the only failure being ammunition flaws. Clean after 20 to 30 rounds through it and it will function flawlessly with Remington JHP LRs.
http://stevespages.com/page8f45acp.html To help you with bullet selection....posted to all on the thread
My only trouble is finding the time to go to the range on a consistent basis.
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The new Bersa .380 in a very light frame is lighter than the ammo for it ... full mag is heavier than the gun alone.
Hefted the Hi-Point in all available calibers. Heavy guns but perhaps great for home defense. Ugly but simple action and except for weight they feel natural! American made and you can get a .45 for under $200 with extra mag! If I were to switch to a .380, I'd go for the Bersa in ultra-light.
Have you any experience with Federal Expanding FMJ ammo?
I bought a box on the recommendation of a shooter friend of mine. I have two “combat ready” clips loaded with it, but at over $1.00 per round they are not range ammo.
I’ve never fired the gun at anything worth a $1.00 round, so I’d be interested in finding out if this is as good a knockdown round as has been advertised.
The post wasn’t to me , but I have done some research on that round and the result was kinda “iffy”. Not enough for me to spend $1.00 per round... This link has some pictures of that round shot through water jugs with other rounds for comparison
I’m looking to pick up the Glock 30, but was hoping to get some feedback from an owner re: size,holsters available, how it handles.
Every picture I see has it next to the 23 (which I already own - great pistol). I have been looking for the Blackhawk CQC Serpa (II) for the 30, but I’m not sure that they make one. I have this holster for my 23, 19 and 26 and it’s the best holster I’ve ever used.
Can you provide any info? Thanks!!
Either a kahr PM9 or a Walther PPS
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg204-e.htm
This one’s nice too, but I don’t think they start selling it until next year:
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg204-e.htm
The kahr is shown in above link as a comparisson to the boberg.
Haven’t checked out the new Bersa, I’ll have to go do that...
I know it’s heresy to many here, but for concealed carry I shy away from the 40 and 45 cals - too big and bulky and heavy. I don’t want a firefight - I hope that IF I have to pull the gun that ends it.
But if I have to fire I want to get off 4-5 shots quickly and accurately and then scoot out of there as quickly as possible. Light guns make getting multiple controlled shots off hard, but the PF9 doesn’t buck much at all when shooting Federal Hydra-Shok JHP (which will put a big-ass hole in bodies, especially at ranges under 20 feet).
In 2 seconds I can pump 5 shots in a 5” circle at 20 feet; if half of those hit, then I tore up the rib-cage (at a minimum) of whomever played backstop. Or ate out a goodly sized chunk of his core. Yes, it takes me 5 shots to do what your 45 can do in 2, but if it gets done, it gets done.
Overall thought, the most important thing for me is to CARRY THE WEAPON. And for me, having the firearm and two extra magazines weighing in at 21 ounces (just one ounce per round carried - less than the weight of some of these other firearms without any ammo), and having it less than 1” thick, and under 6” long I never worry about carrying. It always fits in somewhere, even in the pocket of slacks without binding, being obtrusive, or difficult.
Now, for home defense, there are much bigger and badder things to deal with. But I will definitely go check out the Bersa 380! Sounds like another really good, small CCW.
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