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The Sci & Horror B-movies of Yesteryear
Osnome | 6-7-09 | poster

Posted on 06/08/2009 10:56:33 PM PDT by Osnome

I like the b-movies of the 1950's and 1960's the best.

Little or no foul language, not too much violence, and the wacky cheesy monsters they created. Today it is all femminazi superbimbos in charge, tons of CGI effects, and they are all produced in Canada :-Z

Last night I watched a sci-fi flick from 1962 called: Journey To The Seventh Planet, that had some really hokey monsters- one of which was a one-eyed dinosaur creature with rat-like features and big three fingered claws. This film was created by the same team that made ANGREY RED PLANET of 1959. Ib Melchior wrote that flick and this one and many others. Ever see 'Planet Of The Vampires' 1965 by Mario Bava? That film was inspiration for ALIEN.


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1 posted on 06/08/2009 10:56:33 PM PDT by Osnome
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To: Osnome
Planet of the Vampires is a neat little Mario Bava flick with a couple of hot babes in leather space suits (!) and a really eerie tone.

It's a bit of a stretch to say it was the inspiration for Alien, though. There are one or two similar shots. It! The Terror from Beyond Space was the predecessor to Alien in several significant ways.

2 posted on 06/08/2009 11:01:25 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Osnome

Angry Red Planet is one I picked up last month, and it was as weak as I recalled BUT there is one moment which has never left me—when a guy gets absorbed by a giant Jell-O mold. Yikes! That one creeped me out as a kid.


3 posted on 06/08/2009 11:02:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Osnome

I saw Journey to the Seventh Planet when I was a little kid visiting my aunt in Indianapolis. It was on some late night movie show called “Sammy Terry” with this ghoul guy doing shtick inbetween segments of the movies. Fun stuff.

Planet of the Vampires was pretty cool, and you’re right: it *definitely* was a huge influence on Alien:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUXlc8lLEzY

Some others from that era I enjoy are

The Green Slime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79_ljVC5Wk

Robinson Crusoe on Mars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLaHJvF59Fg&feature=PlayList&p=06639747D61FC953&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6

The original War of the Worlds (no link, sorry);

and The Incredible Shrinking Man (not really a monster movie, but I liked the battle with the house spider)


4 posted on 06/08/2009 11:07:21 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I completely forgot about IT!... Definitely an influence on Alien, as you correctly point out.


5 posted on 06/08/2009 11:09:32 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: Darkwolf377
>>It! The Terror from Beyond Space was the predecessor to Alien in several significant ways. <<

Hey hey what about Howard Hawkes THE THING
and so was Roger Corman’s PLANET OF BLOOD of 1966.

And even The Exorcist (the puking material in the face caused by the ‘incubus’ scene in both pictures)

What about that episode of Dr Who called The Ark In Space( the outer space digger wasps) with a little bit of that animated episode of Star Trek: Beyond the Farthest Star of 1973.

In the end, the source material for ALIEN and the some early episodes of Star Trek(The Man Trap) are derived from A. E. Van Vogt’s THE VOYAGE OF THE SPACE BEAGLE, of which I have an autographed copy.

6 posted on 06/08/2009 11:10:07 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: DemforBush

Back in the 70’s when I first saw these flick s here in Los Angeles, the horror night was hosted by some guy named Seymore, then Grimsely, then Elvira in the early 80’s


7 posted on 06/08/2009 11:13:10 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome
In the end, there isn't a single movie that doesn't have predecessors in the genre, so I don't see those as being nearly in the same league as IT! in terms of influence. TTHE THING is a great movie--the original, at least--but it certainly wasn't the first to use those elements.

Fox had to pay Van Vogt a settlement because he was going to sue them for the similarities to BLACK DESTROYER.

8 posted on 06/08/2009 11:13:46 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Osnome

Don’t forget 1956 Forbiden Planet, Walter Pidgeon, Anne Francis, Leslie Nielsen. With Robbie the Robot!!


9 posted on 06/08/2009 11:14:39 PM PDT by ktw (kakatte koi)
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To: Osnome
Luvs them trashy vampire vixens!


10 posted on 06/08/2009 11:15:06 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Osnome

One of my favorite, besides Creature from the Black Lagoon and others, from the 50s Sci-Fi is “Forbidden Planet”. It has great special effects, they solve the problem of how to make the monster look real by having it be invisible, they have Robbie the Robot in it, Leslie Nielsen(as a very young actor)and, best of all, a young and gorgeous Ann Francis. I like to watch the other ones mentioned on here also including the original “The Thing”...


11 posted on 06/08/2009 11:15:23 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Osnome

Mmmm....Elvira.... Had a brief crush on her as a teenager, until Rhonda Shear and Up All Night! stole my heart away (I think it was my heart...it’s so hard to tell at that age, LOL).


12 posted on 06/08/2009 11:15:25 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: Osnome

13 posted on 06/08/2009 11:16:47 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: DemforBush
>>The Green Slime:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g79_ljVC5Wk
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I saw that flick before, the only interesting spfx were those on Luciana Paluzzi(she was that evil babe in 007's Thunderball) and they were only chest high:-)

Green Slime was to be the first film ever excoriated by Mystery Science Theater 3000, but it was never broadcast.
Instead the first was The Creeping Terror with F-Troop’s Forrest Tucker.

14 posted on 06/08/2009 11:19:47 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: DemforBush

Those were great times. The USA channel was awesome back then.


15 posted on 06/08/2009 11:21:45 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: calex59

Don’t forget THIS ISLAND EARTH was very good too.

Got a good laugh out of that Braino Insect Claw monster that was chasing after Faith Domergue.


16 posted on 06/08/2009 11:21:55 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Snurple

I saw that flick, it was boring!

Reminds me of the THE INCREDIBLE DOCTOR HUMMPH - - a brain in a fish tank.

None of these flicks hold a candle to Donovan’s Brain


17 posted on 06/08/2009 11:24:36 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome

LOL! It was horrible.


18 posted on 06/08/2009 11:25:12 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Snurple

Here in L.A. there is an Elvira immitator called Ivanna Cadavre who appeared on channel 29 late at night a few years ago.


19 posted on 06/08/2009 11:26:30 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome

I saw it at the saturday matinee as a kid. Fun back then.


20 posted on 06/08/2009 11:26:59 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Osnome

On the east coast it would have been Zacharly. Bulliagee!


21 posted on 06/08/2009 11:29:26 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Osnome
Does anybody remember The Crawling Eye and X the Unknown? Those two left me sleepless for days....
22 posted on 06/08/2009 11:30:43 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: DemforBush

>>The original War of the Worlds (no link, sorry);

and The Incredible Shrinking Man (not really a monster movie, but I liked the battle with the house spider)
<<

Around thirty years ago they made a spoof remake of that film called ‘The Incredible Shrinking Woman’ that had a lot of toilet humor.

Richard Matheson wrote ‘Incredible Shrinking Man’- I think.

I wonder if he is still alive- he was when that Will Smith vehicle I AM LEGEND


23 posted on 06/08/2009 11:33:38 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome
Anything from Hammer films used to scare the sheet out of me as a kid.


24 posted on 06/08/2009 11:33:49 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Osnome

The Crawling Eye with Forest Tucker. The Brits made some good ones too! The Giant Behemoth. One om my favs!


25 posted on 06/08/2009 11:34:35 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: kittykat77

I remember the former very well but not the latter.

Was not ‘X’ a British flick?


26 posted on 06/08/2009 11:34:38 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome

Are you referring to The man from Planet X?


27 posted on 06/08/2009 11:35:43 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent

In Chicago it would have been Goulardi


28 posted on 06/08/2009 11:36:56 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Snurple

>>Anything from Hammer films used to scare the sheet out of me as a kid.<<

DON’T FORGET -AMICUS-

They made some good ones too.


29 posted on 06/08/2009 11:38:38 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome

Zacharly was cool, he always had these funny bogus experiments. His greeting was Bullilagee! We had chiller theater every saturday night on tv.


30 posted on 06/08/2009 11:38:52 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent

No, I mean X’ The Unknown~

some protoplasm from a deep crevace rises with radiation.

Man From Planet X was British too.
I thought it was boring.
Never have seen Devil Girl From Mars, I wonder if I can get it from NetFlix...


31 posted on 06/08/2009 11:41:01 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Darkwolf377

Really, you were not scared by the Rat-Bat-Lobster-Spider monster?

Then again when I saw that flick years later I thought it was cute.


32 posted on 06/08/2009 11:42:44 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Always Independent

I think Goulardi blew up toy soldiers and his motto was
“stay sick”


33 posted on 06/08/2009 11:44:49 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome

I know the movie. A mudddy looking sludge. The man from Planet X was made in the 30s.


34 posted on 06/08/2009 11:45:35 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Osnome

How can we forget “Attack Of The Crab Monsters”!

JJ61


35 posted on 06/08/2009 11:48:27 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: Osnome
Really, you were not scared by the Rat-Bat-Lobster-Spider monster?

It did have a Samuel Becket-like existential dreadfulness, I'll grant you. But being stuck in that rocket with that bore of a "comic relief" was worse.

36 posted on 06/08/2009 11:53:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
>>I'll grant you. But being stuck in that rocket with that bore of a “comic relief” was worse. <<

The bore? You mean that fat crewman who loved his sonic gun?
Was it not a relief when he got absorbed and dissolved by the giant martian amoeba?

They used that very same scene in Journey To The Seventh Planet- in some editions.
The edition I got from NetFlix cut that shot out.

37 posted on 06/08/2009 11:59:51 PM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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Good memory! Yes, it's all about a radioactive mud creature that terrorizes a Scottish village.
38 posted on 06/09/2009 12:01:51 AM PDT by kittykat77
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To: Always Independent

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The man from Planet X was made in the 30s.<<

Dead wrong!
The Man From Planet X was made in the 1950’s...
It is as simple as that....


39 posted on 06/09/2009 12:03:00 AM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: Osnome
http://www.diet-smith.ca/Earth_vs_the_Flying_Saucers_DVD.jpg

40 posted on 06/09/2009 12:06:39 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Divestment from oppressive leftist dogma.)
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To: JerseyJohn61

Yes, that film did have a nice busty but well clothed babe.
Hokey monsters with a silly ending and goofy dialogue.


41 posted on 06/09/2009 12:09:17 AM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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http://screencrave.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/invasion_of_the_body_snatchers.jpg
 
Your Obamapod is waiting for you. You are getting very sleepy..must..sleep.

42 posted on 06/09/2009 12:11:17 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Divestment from oppressive leftist dogma.)
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To: Osnome
Plus, I always felt bad when Russel Johnson
“buys” it in the end, though he saves the day.

As a child, I'd think- Oh No! Not the professor!

JJ61

43 posted on 06/09/2009 12:13:42 AM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: wolficatZ
One of my favorites.
The flying saucers were animated by Ray Harryhausen.
One thing I notice about all sci-fi films, the spaceships seem larger on the inside than the outside would indicate.

What I do not understand is the flat title~ should it not be America Vrs The Flying Saucers ?

Remember that flick Earth Vrs The Spider?
Should have been titled: American Town Vrs The Spider.

44 posted on 06/09/2009 12:14:11 AM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: JerseyJohn61
Actually he gets vaporized by the interociter beams.
The movie moves so fast you don't notice the lapses in logic.
Why did they kill him? Didn't they need scientists to help them convert Lead into Uranium.

After they kill him, and the heroes are on the spaceship, they just sort of forget his murder.

45 posted on 06/09/2009 12:18:49 AM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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To: wolficatZ
I always thought that movie was over rated.

Just a slick horror film, not sci-fi, horror suspense.
Read the book by the late Jack Finney 1978 edit.

I see the clones as doppelgangers, which makes it a horror film. The fact that they are from space is the same as saying they are from a netherworld.

46 posted on 06/09/2009 12:22:11 AM PDT by Osnome (Moderation in all things)
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Just watched ‘Them!’ this past weekend. Fun. Fun.


47 posted on 06/09/2009 12:28:19 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: Osnome

Love brain films - Donovan’s Brain was good, so was Brain From Planet Arous.

Two great films that for some reason are little known in the States: Quatermass and the Pit (AKA Five Million Years to Earth) and Day of the Triffids.

And lest we forget all the giant critter films, how about Them! (best of them all), The Giant Gila Monster, Attack of the Crab Monsters, Tarantula, Earth vs. the Spider, The Deadly Mantis, Attack of the Giant Leeches, Night of the Lepus, The Monster That Challenged the World, Frogs...and so many more Creature Feature/Chiller Theater/Saturday afternoon bug-eyed monster delights....


48 posted on 06/09/2009 12:31:48 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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I don’t remember the name of it, but there was a sci-fi movie back then with the radiation of a comet causing a black sludge to come and wreck things, eat people, etc. It wasn’t the one with the military guys discovering it in a crack in the earth. It was something else.

Anyone?

OH! One scene showed a scientist being swollowed by the thing, then a skull popped back out.


49 posted on 06/09/2009 12:35:34 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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Hey hey what about Howard Hawkes THE THING

One of the all-time greats with James Arness as The Thing. A man-sized blood-sucking limb-regenerating intelligent... vegetable! And the scientists in that flick remind me of the global warming alarmists of today.

50 posted on 06/09/2009 12:49:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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