Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Why would Madelyn leave 1/2 million to anna chins baby, and raise him from age 10? anna chin is not related to madelyn dunham— Brock obama’s mom has to be stanley ann, or either stanley ann has a unnamed sister—
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I don’t have earthly heroes. Jesus is as close as I come to having a hero, but I don’t call Him that. I all Him Lord, Savior...& friend.
May He bless you always, FW
Due to madelyn leaving barry 1/2 million dollars and raising him fom age 10, suggest that he is a blood relative- so it only leave’s 3 ways due to the dunham “chin” Barry inherited
1. stanley ann had zero
2. stanley armour had a zero with a colored woman
3. stanley ann has a unnamed sister “anna” that had zero
Fantasywriter,
Exactly!
Many times someone who hates their first name will use their middle name. And as you pointed out, vary it (Ann/Anna)
Back in the early sixties people would use the more liked middle name, even on forms.... despite instructions on forms saying ‘ use your full name’.
That caused them no end of grief later on, when requirements tightened up and things be American computerized.
Zero declared an inheritance of shares on a tax return which a copy of was posted on some White-House website. There’s no indication who that inheritance came from. That is was from Madelyn Dunham is an assumption. It’s simply a delaration of income.
I sure didn’t miss it ;).
But the scenario has to be run thru the gantlet of the u.s. 1952 INA rules....
ObligedFriend,
Is that the current rules or is it the 1960s era rules.
(We gotta get into time machines for this :0 )
I’LL LEAVE IT TO THE READERS TO FIGURE OUT THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION:
IF YOU ADD 18 MONTHS TO JULY 1959, DO YOU GET JANUARY AND FEBRUARY 1962?
AND WHO IDENTIFIED ANNA OBAMA AS STANLEY ANN DUNHAM?
Baby Sitting Barack Obama on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill
by Charlette LeFevre and Philip Lipson
Seattle Museum of the Mysteries
1/28/09
Mary Toutonghi, 2009
A simple act of of kindness confirms President Barack Obama residence as an infant in 1962 on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill.
As we were researching the residence of the Capitol Hill apartment that Ann Dunham and her son Barack Obama had lived in 1961 to 1962, (1) - a residence that certainly wasn¹t Abraham Lincoln¹s log cabin but none the less historical, we were also able to find one of the former residents listed in a directory- Mary Toutonghi. Much to our delight it turned out Mary actually knew Ann Dunham and had baby sat baby Barack for two months giving insight on his first year and what it must have been like for Ann Dunham as a single parent.
Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Soldatna Alaska, (2) recalls Barack as ³a really alert baby, very happy and a good size². She does not remember him ever crying (although she adds she is sure he likely did but does not remember any undue fussing). She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962. [Note: 9/3/09: I believe Mary’s daughter was older than what she remembered which would account for the age discrepency].
During our first interview, Mary referred to Stanley Ann Dunham as ³Anna² not knowing that it was the same name as what was listed in the Seattle City Directory. This verified for us that indeed Mary had known Ann Dunham. Anna was obviously confident enough with Mary to have her baby sit her son Barack and confide in her about her future plans. Mary strains to remember the days back over forty five years ago and relates that she did not know why Anna was in Seattle but remembers she was ³anxious to get back to her husband². ³She told me they would be going to Kenya when she finished her education which she had promised her parents when she had married, but because her husband had an obligation to his tribe she realized he would have to take another wife that was a full blooded Kenyan². Mary commented that ³I don¹t think I could have been that brave.²
Mary explained most of the people in the apartment house were Seniors and were retired so it was most likely she was the only one in the house able to baby sit Barack. Mary was a stay at home mother while her husband was taking classes at the nearby Seattle University. She lived directly below Anna and Barack in the level she calls the basement. She remembers the windows in their basement apartment being at chin level and she had a great view of the yard and trees. One day she recalls with laughter, a squirrel had fallen through the one of the ground level windows and after quickly scampering up its tree scolded the family for a good hour.
Mary goes on to relate after we sent her a 1937 photo of the apartment from Washington State Archives, the apartment Anna and Barack lived in was the on the first main floor and the windows looked out over the street. Anna and baby Barack¹s apartment in the photo were the three paned windows on the far right corner of the building above the garage. The main floor had been divided into four studio apartments about 500 square feet each- indeed, a tiny apartment compared to the White House. The first house of Barack Obama no longer exists having been torn down in 1985. An apartment complex now is on the block along with twin residential towers ³Capitol Park² owned by Seattle Housing Authority.
Mary also laughs when asked for pictures saying ³We were in survival mode and not taking pictures². Mary remembers Anna as ³very mature who never complained and met her obligations². Anna was taking night classes at the University of Washington and according to the University of Washington¹s registrar¹s office her major was listed as History. She was enrolled at the University of Washington in the fall of 1961, took a full course load in the Spring of 1962 and had her transcript transferred to the University of Hawaii in the Fall of 1962.
Along with the Seattle Polk Directory, Marc Leavipp of the University of Washington Registrar¹s office confirms 516 13th Ave. E. was the address Ann Dunham had given upon registering at the University. Today, when one looks back to the small apartment in 1962 in which a kind neighbor helped care for our nation¹s leader and a struggling mother strived to get an education, its inspiring to know that even small gestures in the most difficult of situations can help a baby rise from humble beginnings to achieve greatness.
Ann Dunham later received a Ph.D. in Anthropology from the Univ. of Hawaii.
Mary Toutonghi now lives in Soldatna Alaska and was 2001 President of the Alaska Speech-Language-Hearing Association.
And one little baby grew up to achieve the audacity of hope.
Permission to copy this article is granted provided full context is posted and credited to authors.
Mary Toutonghi photo courtesy of Mary Toutonghi and Jenny Neyman.
House photo was provided by: Washington State Archives, Puget Sound Branch, King County Assessor Property Record Card collection photograph (1937).
1. Barack Obama: from Capitol Hill to Capitol Hill by Charlette LeFevre, www.capitolhilltimes.com
2. Obama baby sitter awaits new era ‹ Soldotna woman eager for former charge¹s reign By Jenny Neyman, Redoubt Reporter, Soldotna AK, 1/20/09
Hello Fred- Even if its proven false of the inherited 1/2 million in funds, why would madelyn raise someone else’s child from age 10? its sure seems like she really knew him as a blood relative..
“She took him to see Susan Blake when he was a few weeks old. She presented him as her own. And as there’s been no physical sign of her in Hawaii either before or after the miraculous birth, it’s fair to ask, whose child did she show to Susan Blake?”
No evidence for the above claim has been provided and abundant VERIFYABLE evidence refutes it including INS FOIA documents, U of HI transcripts, U of WA transcripts, HI Polk registry, numerous witnesses.
See Mal-Val thread:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?page=265
Maybe he was classified as an orphan. How would I know? I’m just trying to show you what I see, and you’re asking me to be a magician. They obvioulsy cared about the boy. They were his guardians.
Why did Madelyn tell Virginia Goeldner in 1982 when she and her husband visited the Dunhams in Hawaii, that her daughter had died in 1970 and that’s why they had been looking after zero?
SAD didn’t die in 1970. Why didn’t they just say that he was their ‘grandson’ if he was?
Madelyn’s co-workers at the Bank didn’t know she had a grandson until he showed up in 1971 and went to Punahou.
Learn to Google.
Amen to that!
Arrgh, i hate auto-insert!
In this case American should not be in there...
(Or should it ;) )
It’s not a claim, it’s a question, did you see the question mark? - and you just can’t stand that question being asked, can you?
I’m closing down, my life is worth more to me than your twisted motive.
Why don’t you drag out your story about the KGB and how SAD was a slut who couldn’t keep away from the ugly old Frank Marshall Davis who was older than her own father. You know you want to.
I’ve had a gutful of you.
“Many times someone who hates their first name will use their middle name. And as you pointed out, vary it (Ann/Anna)”
Agreed! In fact, you are preaching to the choir. I couldn’t wait to change my own name. I did my first year of college locally/in my hometown, so I didn’t feel I could do it then. For my sophomore yr I went out of state, & my first act was to change my name [to a variant of the one on my BC].
I’ve never changed back—& this despite having an okay name on my BC. If I’d been saddled w a monstrosity like ‘Stanley’, trust me, the change simply could not have come soon enough.
I agree Fred -something is very fishy- I believe Virginia Goeldner really believes anna died in 1970- that would suggest stanley ann had a sister named anna.. I know your not a migician, but you are a good researcher..
Maumelle Couple Excited About Their Nephew’s New Job: President-Elect
Maumelle Monitor ^ | November 13, 2008 | Bill Lawson
Posted on Monday, 12 January 2009 10:56:51 AM by Chief Engineer
By Bill Lawson \ Staff Writer \ blawson@maumellemonitor.com Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:04 PM CST
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2162856/posts
This article has been scrubbed and was almost immediately replaced by another which left out the offending ‘his mother died in 1970’ -
Now I really really am closing down. If anyone wants any links feel free to write to me PM and I’ll reply later.
Many thanks, appreciated.
Thanks a bunch Fred
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