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What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
End The War on Freedom ^ | June 18, 2003 | Bill St. Clair

Posted on 08/10/2009 3:48:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DMZFrank

Many old and useful things to remember from WWII.

The Sten 9mm submachine gun was easily manufactured by any competent plumbers, and was designed that way.


551 posted on 12/21/2012 3:44:17 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No doubt homos have infiltrated many organizations, but very few males ever would admit and I knew the few that did got the H beat out of them if they looked sideways at a normal man.


552 posted on 01/01/2013 9:47:10 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BTTT


553 posted on 01/25/2013 6:15:27 PM PST by foxfield
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For later “read”


554 posted on 01/26/2013 7:42:13 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


555 posted on 01/28/2013 9:24:40 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Billthedrill
WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG

WWW.CSPOA.ORG

556 posted on 03/02/2013 7:08:53 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At any given time there were only about 250 active IRA members fighting off the Ulster Defence League and holding down the British army.BTW their favorite weapon was an Armalite... I don’t know which caliber.


557 posted on 03/04/2013 2:47:11 AM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Blackirish

Therefore, what could 10, 20, 40 or 60 MILLION do arrayed against 1 or 2 million? It would be as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote: “During an arrest, you think since you are not guilty, how can they arrest you? Why should you run away? And how can you resist right then? After all, you’ll only make your situation worse; you will make it more difficult for them to sort out the mistake.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! We did not love freedom enough. Every man always has handy a dozen glib little reasons why he is right not to sacrifice himself.”


558 posted on 03/04/2013 3:25:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Blackirish

Even a few hundred people armed only with .22LR rifles and pistols could cause major havoc in an area. Look at the two DC snipers some time back. They had a major city and suburbs paralyzed with fear.


559 posted on 03/04/2013 3:28:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since Obamessiah and his tyrannical minions have purchased over 1.5 BILLION rounds of hollow-point ammunition, 7,000 plus fully automatic weapons, unmanned drones, flying over American cities " for survailance purposes only" (Yea, right) that are capable of determining if an individual is carrying a gun, and now the purchase of 2,700 armored vehicles capable of withstanding damage from mines for use IN America.

Your thread needs to be repeated and expanded since the threat posed by Obamessiah, who rules like a tyrannical dictator but claims "I am not a dictator!" is exponentially greater than that posed by the Clintons. In actuality the Clintons are pikers compared to Obama and his minions!

560 posted on 03/04/2013 8:13:21 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since Obamessiah and his tyrannical minions have purchased over 1.5 BILLION rounds of hollow-point ammunition, 7,000 plus fully automatic weapons, unmanned drones, flying over American cities " for survailance purposes only" (Yea, right) that are capable of determining if an individual is carrying a gun, and now the purchase of 2,700 armored vehicles capable of withstanding damage from mines for use IN America.

Your thread needs to be repeated and expanded since the threat posed by Obamessiah, who rules like a tyrannical dictator but claims "I am not a dictator!" is exponentially greater than that posed by the Clintons. In actuality the Clintons are pikers compared to Obama and his minions!

561 posted on 03/04/2013 8:13:21 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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4th. Generation Warfare.
562 posted on 03/08/2013 4:06:47 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG)
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To: All
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Our motto is “Not on our watch!”

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563 posted on 03/08/2013 4:13:48 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG)
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To: Jmouse007

How exactly are the drones able to determine if an individual has a firearm on their person? Automatic weapons such as M-16s, in my experience, are usually just ammunition wasters, except for crew-served machine guns. Many of the civilians facing the military, gang members, Obama Youth, ACORN types and law enforcement will be better marksmen than those groups. A person with 5, 10 or even 20 weapons will usually spend more time at the range than your average policeman. And fear not, the American public have purchased enough ammunition, just since 2007, to fight every war in history 20 times over and enough firearms to arm every soldier ever born since we left the caves.


564 posted on 03/10/2013 12:38:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


565 posted on 03/24/2013 5:23:26 AM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Faith65

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566 posted on 04/04/2013 3:44:30 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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Guardians of the Republic - www.OathKeepers.org


567 posted on 04/20/2013 10:32:42 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Help put an Oath Keepers car on the NASCAR track, driven by Jeffrey Earnhardt! - WWW.OATHKEEPERS.ORG)
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To: Maelstorm
I have been saying that for a while now.

The reason they want gays in the military is so that “fellow travelers” can promote them to the highest echelons.

Then they control it.

Just like they have pretty much done with the education system. I saw it locally last year when they fired the ONLY two openly republican teachers, claiming they didn't have the budget, but then hire two more who are staunch libtards.

And once the military is controlled by people with a shaky moral compass then we are in serious trouble. How else can you find people willing to kill citizens or run death camps? And Obama is firing Generals who have stated that they would refuse to fire on US citizens... what's up with that?

The NAZI SS were rumored to have heavy duty homosexual practices.

568 posted on 05/02/2013 8:49:38 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Prole

“I really don’t think the US government agents are going door to door taking our firearms away from us.”

I agree, I think they will encourage our children to turn us and/or our firearms in, either during our lifetimes or afterwards. They’ve had plenty of time, and own all the large cities already.

Then the neighborhood watch commanders, not “white” ones like George Zimmerman, will coordinate the turn-ins.


569 posted on 05/02/2013 9:23:15 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: higgmeister

My favorite memory of Senator Dirksen was during the 1968 presidential election of Nixon vs. Humphrey. The notoriously corrupt Cook County would wait until all the other Illinois counties released their voting results, then, miraculously, when Cook County released their figures - low and behold there were enough Democrat votes to swing the state to the Democrat.

Well, Sen. Dirksen somehow got all the other counties to refuse to release their figures until Cook County did first. Talk about squealing like a stuck pig - the Cook County Dems screamed bloody murder, but Dirksen held fast. Cook County finally released their numbers and then all the others did too. Nixon carried the state.


570 posted on 05/04/2013 1:59:49 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd
He was an amazing man! I recommend that book “The Honorable Mr. Marigold” to gain insight into what a politician should be.
571 posted on 05/04/2013 6:24:03 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Terry Mross
WOLVERINES!

Exactly... You may start out with only a handgun or bolt action rifle. You plan your battles so that you will undoubtedly win. Then it is take the enemy weapons, supply's and vehicles and weapon systems. It is what we do, it is who we are. Live for nothing or Die for something. Warriors understand this!

572 posted on 05/05/2013 9:08:21 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: thegrump

When really hungry, people will sell their Soul for a cracker.


573 posted on 06/07/2013 12:54:08 PM PDT by 0311
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To: Terry Mross
WOLVERINES!

SPARTANS!

574 posted on 06/07/2013 1:13:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: dljordan

The Hungarian Revolution of 1956 is instructive.


575 posted on 06/09/2013 9:59:20 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Riley
......after the war, half the Frenchmen you’d meet in a pub somewhere were garroting German sentries on a nightly basis- ....

Mais oui! Appellés, "Le Maquis après la guerre."

Joining the Resistance after the war was safer, you know?

576 posted on 06/11/2013 1:39:40 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ping


577 posted on 06/19/2013 12:12:04 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bfl


578 posted on 06/21/2013 1:51:16 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Argus

For one thing, NEVER negotiate. Unconditional Surrender is the ONLY outcome outside of annihilation of the enemy. Hungary allowed itself to negotiate with the very Communists that then turned on them.


579 posted on 06/21/2013 2:22:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Judges Gone Wild

>>>After a while, there were no more guns in the hands of the populace. And they still don’t have them. That’s why there were no armed reprisals to the Beslan school massacre. Read The Black Book of Communism.<<<

Bad example. Stalin has died in 1953, Russians allowed to have semi-auto for decades and counting.
As for Beslan massacre armed village idiots did everything to screw things up firing shots at that school full of hostages and military had to allocate about as much resources to contain them as they has against terrorists.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m pro-gun but armed resistance is not necessarily a win-win scenario for concerned citizenry struggling against tyranny.

Government still has a means to respond. People in Yugoslavia, former Soviet Stans and Middle East were actually better armed than most Americans. Unlike Americans they had fully auto assault rifles and RPG widely available. Against machine guns government responded with armored IFVs, against anti-tank assets government used snipers and air power.


580 posted on 06/27/2013 7:34:15 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reading


581 posted on 06/30/2013 9:12:23 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BookMark

Dear Lord, guide and strengthen us.
Tatt


582 posted on 07/11/2013 8:40:58 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...

May come in handy soon.


583 posted on 07/14/2013 1:47:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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584 posted on 07/19/2013 1:00:20 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance........)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Second Amendment is a political issue today only because of the military reality that underlies it. Politicians who fear the people seek to disarm them. Bill St. Clair

So many gems in this post....

585 posted on 09/16/2013 4:34:37 PM PDT by GOPJ ( Politicians who fear the people seek to disarm them. - - Bill St. Clair)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read the NAVSEA shooter had a revolver.

He inflicted a lot of damage to the Navy.


586 posted on 09/16/2013 4:36:15 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

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587 posted on 10/13/2013 3:56:07 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Riley

My German mother who actually experienced actual war, said you can never trust anyone. The Military will obey orders, that’s what they are trained to do. They will follow orders because they will believe the Truth as told to them by their commanders.


588 posted on 12/26/2013 3:37:09 PM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BFLR


589 posted on 02/15/2014 9:33:43 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...they cannot fathom the motives or behavior of people who believe that there are some principles worth fighting and dying for. Out of such failures of understanding come wars. Particularly because although such elitists would not risk their own necks in a fight, they have no compunction about ordering others in their pay to fight for them. It is not the deaths of others, but their own deaths, that they fear.

That is why THOSE WHO GIVE THE ORDERS must be the primary targets at the first sniff of attempted arms confiscation. Find out who they are in your area, NOW, because the information will be unavailable when they are ready to strike. Learn their homes, their workplaces, their travel routines, their recreation. They can either be found after having "accidents", or simply disappear.

Preemptive self-defense is NOT murder.

590 posted on 02/16/2014 2:37:10 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If there is one lesson of Hitlerism and the Holocaust, it is that free men, if they wish to remain free, must resist would-be tyrants at the first opportunity and at every opportunity. Remember that whether they the come as conquerors or elected officials, the men who secretly wish to be your murderers must first convince you that you must accept them as your masters.

If not us, who? If not now, when?

591 posted on 02/16/2014 2:39:52 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
Our Oath is to the Constitution.

Our motto is “Not on our watch!”

Which means that the enemy forces are infiltrated. How are we to know which are with us and which are against us, to avoid friendly fire incidents?

592 posted on 02/16/2014 2:44:53 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great re-read today. Thanks!!


593 posted on 04/13/2014 3:43:22 PM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Covenantor

French resistance helped my father in law and his crew mates find their way to the Americans after he escaped from being shot down over German occupied territory in Switzerland. He very much credits the French people who helped them. He passed away last year on the same day of the year he was shot down. My Mother in law passed this past Sunday... only a few hours from passing one year to the date of her husband.


594 posted on 04/15/2014 11:54:23 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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595 posted on 04/30/2014 10:28:08 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”


596 posted on 05/15/2014 2:05:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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597 posted on 06/27/2014 8:16:23 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Replica FP-45 Liberator Pistol Complete
with Authentic Reproduction Liberator Box Set
SOLD OUT!
Retail Price $600.00 + $20 S/H = $620.00............................. Who needs to buy a single shot pistol for $600.00, when you can get a 10 round 9mm automatic for under $200?? (Bulgarian Tokarov)


598 posted on 08/01/2014 3:17:39 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016! Really??? That's Retarded Sir.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Hi-Point C9 9mm around $150. Unconditional, transferable lifetime guarantee.


599 posted on 08/01/2014 3:21:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We the people” are the largest free standing Army in the World


600 posted on 08/04/2014 4:48:33 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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