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"We Hate the United States": Secessionists Rally at TX Capitol
Texas Observer | Forrest Wilder

Posted on 09/15/2009 2:22:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Perhaps the most notable thing about the “Sovereignty or Secession” rally at the state Capitol on Monday was the absence of any remotely mainstream speakers. That little problem in presentation did not escape the event’s organizers from the Texas Nationalist Movement. In fact, several speakers bitterly complained that neither Gov. Rick Perry nor a single one of the 70-plus supporters of Rep. Brandon Creighton’s HCR 50, a resolution asserting Texas’ “sovereignty” from the federal government, made an appearance.

Back in April, Perry flirted with the idea of secession when he told reporters after a Tax Day tea party event: “There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve [the Union]. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.”

Even for a governor who frequently plays to the more extreme elements in the Texas GOP, it was a gobsmackingly ‘out there’ remark. But it certainly did wonders for the secession crowd -- long a totally marginal and ridiculed group with about as much chance of capturing the mainstream imagination as the LaRouche cult.

The turnout for the rally wasn’t huge -- 200 would be a generous estimate -- but it was enough to show how much Perry has helped galvanize and embolden the right wing “hate America” fringe. After all, the governor of the second most populous state in the nation had suggested that secession was a possible solution to federal over-reach. Republican political leaders have helped bring “death panels” and the Obama birth certificate nonsense into acceptable discourse; Perry’s contribution has been bringing secession into the mix.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: collapseofusa; perry; secede; texas; texassecede; tx2010

1 posted on 09/15/2009 2:22:33 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I blame Perry.


2 posted on 09/15/2009 2:24:09 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Oh, great. Forget ACORN. This crap will make headlines.


3 posted on 09/15/2009 2:29:56 PM PDT by DRey
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To: MinorityRepublican

Did they happen to report on 2 million marching in Washington?


4 posted on 09/15/2009 2:31:01 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Okay, I don’t see anywhere in the article where anyone said they hate America. Is there a larger article somewhere, or did an idiot make up the headline.


5 posted on 09/15/2009 2:34:19 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Forrest Wilder? Geez...his parents must have been bonified tree huggers, LOL!


6 posted on 09/15/2009 2:40:09 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: MinorityRepublican

How can THAT be?

Obama is the “great uniter”?

Right?

Why, isn’t Obama the “messiah”?

We should have heaven on earth ynder his reign.


7 posted on 09/15/2009 2:43:59 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: MEGoody

I wasn’t there, but I understood the “hate America” quotation was the writer’s term, not the crowds. I don’t believe that the secessionist hate America. If anything, they feel pity for the United States. The United States that was formed by the Founding Fathers no longer exists. What we have in Washington is a coalition of the corrupt, the evil, and the stupid. Maybe if there was some way of resurrecting the United States, people wouldn’t want to secede.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 2:45:22 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: ichabod1

Look, I’m born & raised in TX and I can tell you that a majority of conservative Texans (most of Texans) believe the Union should be preserved because we have fought too long and hard for it. We would also advocate civil war before succession.
However, we also believe that if the Union can’t be salvaged or the civil war won (or rather nobody else in this country will stand with us and pursue or support either course of action) then we fully advocate succession. We believe we can close our southern border, defend TX, and allow the TX economy to prosper.
Basically, we want to save the ship, but if everyone else is too cowardly to help us or too intent on sinking the ship, then we have no intention of going down with the ship.


9 posted on 09/15/2009 2:56:26 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: MEGoody
...or did an idiot make up the headline.

Bingo ! If those nasty right wingers don't say what you want, then just make it up yourself !

10 posted on 09/15/2009 3:08:19 PM PDT by jimt
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To: MEGoody
'We hate the United States': Secessionists rally in Texas
11 posted on 09/15/2009 3:14:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Right wing hate American fringe", huh?

The Alinsky technique of accusing your opponents of exactly what you are guilty of is getting rather old.

Texas isn't leaving America, America left Texas.

God bless Texas, and damn her enemies, both foreign and domestic.


12 posted on 09/15/2009 3:24:29 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

bttt


13 posted on 09/15/2009 4:43:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

bttt


14 posted on 09/15/2009 4:43:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ah, so it was a comment made by one Phelps-like individual, to murmurs of disapproval. So in other words, the individual who selected the headline chose to quote the one person who could make the whole group look bad. (I noticed they also called the individual a Christian activist. Just had to make that comment even though the execution of homosexuals is an Islamic thing, not a Christian thing.)


15 posted on 09/16/2009 6:04:40 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Uh, where is the hate, except in the retard author’s headline?


16 posted on 09/16/2009 10:01:18 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

2 minute hate.


17 posted on 09/17/2009 5:52:30 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
TEXAS FOREVER!
18 posted on 09/25/2009 10:50:21 AM PDT by w_over_w (The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.~ Albert Einstein)
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