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If 100 million guys can make all, what do other do?

Posted on 01/12/2010 5:01:31 AM PST by QF129

Decades ago, people had to work hard for making products for living and for fun. Outsourcing and globalization have changed it at all. If 100 million guys in China, India or Vietnam can make goods for the world, what should other guys do?

One way is to limit the globolization process so that more guys are in work because the productivity is reduced; otherwise people may accept this and just do exactly nothing. Before we achieve another techonological breakthrough like nuclear power or the Internet, we must find a way to deal with the high productivity that is making troubles. If people do not need achievement to satisfy themselves, the thing is much easier.

Another concern is that globolization may enlarge the a poverty gap in developed countries because labour forces is worth less and capital is worth more products.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: globalization; outsourcing

1 posted on 01/12/2010 5:01:31 AM PST by QF129
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To: QF129

Oh, that’s a great solution—let’s limit productivity and make the whole world poorer!


2 posted on 01/12/2010 5:03:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: QF129

Welcome newbie. Do you think that the 100 million people are going to pay all the taxes for the other 5 billion deadbeats?


3 posted on 01/12/2010 5:04:31 AM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: QF129
WelcomeTo FreeRepublic!
4 posted on 01/12/2010 5:08:28 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR... Monthly donors welcome!)
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To: QF129

Limiting productivity is a lousy idea. As always, we will have to be more innovative.

SnakeDoc


5 posted on 01/12/2010 5:11:44 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Life is tough; it's tougher if you're stupid. -- John Wayne)
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To: QF129

The rest of us can do things like manage the logistics of shipping those goods around the world, managing and maintaining the infrastructure that makes the manufacture of those goods possible, manage the data infrastructure that makes that “global economy” viable, and run the businesses that make and sell those goods. Beyond that, there are many many more jobs possible in the field of investing in those businesses to make them more successful etc etc.

Where’d you learn economics? From a gumball machine?


6 posted on 01/12/2010 5:13:13 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: QF129
If 100 million guys can make all, what do other do?

Post inane crap on FR, I guess?

7 posted on 01/12/2010 5:15:59 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: QF129
You signed up yesterday to post this dreck?

You should take an on line writing class.

8 posted on 01/12/2010 5:18:23 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: QF129
We could drink beer and play golf.

ML/NJ

9 posted on 01/12/2010 5:21:28 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: QF129

If 100 million guys can make all, what do other do?....

Hang around the town and protest in the streets daily, just like in the Muslim Countries.


10 posted on 01/12/2010 5:22:43 AM PST by Hang'emAll
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To: 9YearLurker

The idea that the ability to produce basically an unlimited supply of goods was proposed as a cause for the Great Depression after it truly got underway. Those advocating this idea that industrial science in the 20s got too far ahead of the public’s ability to purchase enough of the goods that were being produced leading to business failure and the depression.


11 posted on 01/12/2010 5:23:19 AM PST by AceMineral (Manos? Hands of Fate.)
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To: QF129
The Left has been pushing variations of this crap forever.

Once upon a time, the big problem was dirty, noisy dangerous factories. The Left was really opposed to that! Then factory owners moved toward automation and freed workers to get jobs that weren't so dirty, noisy or dangerous. Hey, guess what? The Left was really opposed to that!

I think in the ideal Leftist world, the Political Elite would all live in castles on the hill and live a sex positive lifestyle. This would all be supported by a core group of slaves who would labor in the fields producing massive amounts of goods through highly productive labor.

But we've tried feudalism before, and most of us have moved past it.

12 posted on 01/12/2010 5:29:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: QF129

Nuclear power was a bad example, because it actually raised the human cost of producing power, while lowering the material cost. (it takes more people to run a nuclear plant than a coal-fired plant).

Theoretically, if 1 person could do the work of 10, that one person would earn 10 times as much money as the 10, but it would be useless because the other 9 would be broke and couldn’t buy anything.

So the market would adjust, continuing to employ the 10 people, but each working 1/10th of the time. Everybody ends up with the same amount of money as before, and all have money to spend.

Except what you really expect to happen is that the cost of the goods drops to 1/10th, the 1 person makes the same money as he did before, but the other 9 are broke and can’t buy anything.

But the other 9, not being lazy democrats, will go out and find a way to make something else. And the 1 guy with money will want to buy those other things, and that will employ the 9 other people, and there will be 10 times as many things.

So long as the growth in productivity is slow, and we have enough room in our houses, or we can think up enough new really cool and expensive toys, everything will be fine.

However, the downside of a consumer-pleasure-driven economy is that it is pretty easy for people to go without when things are tough. Which means downturns can be much more severe.

I don’t see any major economists talking about this, but during the great depression, we were still a pretty serious “needs” economy, and people have needs (food, clothing, shelter) even if they don’t have money, so they will do whatever it takes to get it.

But how many people need a big-screen TV, or a satellite dish, or a $50,000 car, or a trip to the Bahamas, or a $2000 stereo, or a $3000 chair that gives you back massages?

but that is what drives out market these days. In fact, what you suggest is already what happened. It used to take a significant portion of our population just to grow enough food for everybody. But as we got much more efficient at growing food, all those unemployed farmers left the farm and built entire industries of products and services.


13 posted on 01/12/2010 5:29:54 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: QF129

Could this title be Harry Reid approved?


14 posted on 01/12/2010 5:41:44 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: ml/nj

I’ll serve the beer! I can do that.


15 posted on 01/12/2010 5:47:23 AM PST by Beer Serving Girl
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; QF129

highlight the part where it says to use vanity tags


16 posted on 01/12/2010 5:50:53 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Beer Serving Girl
I see that you are new here. Welcome to FR.

My recollection is that when one has a screen name such as yours, the longstanding rules require you to post a picture on your FR "about page" so all may determine your qualifications.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 01/12/2010 6:00:28 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: QF129

IBTZ!


18 posted on 01/12/2010 6:03:06 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: All

Is it too early to submit nominations for Stupidest Post of the Year?


19 posted on 01/12/2010 6:10:17 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: QF129

<iwe must find a way to deal with the high productivity that is making troubles. If people do not need achievement to satisfy themselves, the thing is much easier./ip

Obama’s people are working on that.


20 posted on 01/12/2010 6:13:37 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: QF129

21 posted on 01/12/2010 6:14:04 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' Racial DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: Revelation 911

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22 posted on 01/12/2010 6:14:44 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR... Monthly donors welcome!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

please highlight the part in the welcome to FR handbook for the noob that says to use “vanity” tags on threads of their own creating


23 posted on 01/12/2010 6:21:21 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: Revelation 911

Not sure what you’re getting at.

I invite ALL new FReepers to donate to the cause.


24 posted on 01/12/2010 6:24:53 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR... Monthly donors welcome!)
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To: caver

“Do you think that the 100 million people are going to pay all the taxes for the other 5 billion deadbeats?”

“Bammy, Pelousy and Reid certainly do...


25 posted on 01/12/2010 6:27:34 AM PST by mo
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To: QF129

We could spend our free time applying wood shampoos to people like you.


26 posted on 01/12/2010 6:27:53 AM PST by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: QF129
what should other guys do?

Obvious: take advantage of the fact that they don't have to spend all their time making basic stuff. I write software for medical devices, saving & prolonging lives; would you rather have a system where I'd be making pots & pans instead?

Those "100M who make everything" aren't designing "everything", aren't using "everything", and aren't enjoying the benefits of "everything".

Here's a thought: rather than posting vapid inanities about how great the world would be if we all went back to 1923, how about YOU try making ALL the stuff that YOU use? you have a theory for everyone else to live by, how about you show us how great it is before forcing it on everyone else? Hint: it's been tried, and failed to the tune of millions dead.

27 posted on 01/12/2010 6:30:48 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Virtue is to be apologized for. Depravity commands respect. - Galt)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

thought it was a link to the rules my bad


28 posted on 01/12/2010 6:41:14 AM PST by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: QF129

This is one dismally poor vanity.

Even to criticize it is to risk the fate of the home-owner kicking a Halloween burning bag on his doorstep!

Please catch the short bus out of town.


29 posted on 01/12/2010 6:49:35 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Little Pig
The rest of us can do things like manage the logistics of shipping those goods around the world, managing and maintaining the infrastructure that makes the manufacture of those goods possible, manage the data infrastructure that makes that “global economy” viable, and run the businesses that make and sell those goods. Beyond that, there are many many more jobs possible in the field of investing in those businesses to make them more successful etc etc.

But who would want to do any of that crap?

30 posted on 01/12/2010 8:46:01 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

Reading this vanity and then reading the responses to it have left me sore from laughing so hard. I must say, the intelligence and historical recall of FReepers is spot on. Shoosh - unicorns and cotton candy meet Godzilla. Shoosh.


31 posted on 01/12/2010 11:09:35 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: QF129; Tax-chick
If 100 million guys can make all, what do other do?

Study grammar?

32 posted on 01/12/2010 11:12:47 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking; humblegunner

Excellent idea. They could study with humblegunner!


33 posted on 01/12/2010 1:29:56 PM PST by Tax-chick (May mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.)
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To: Tax-chick

NO shrimp tacos for you!


34 posted on 01/12/2010 1:57:42 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: QF129

Sometimes I read stuff on this site and wonder if I’m becoming dyslexic in my old age. And then I try to read it again and realize that the problem is you not me.


35 posted on 01/12/2010 2:03:29 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: QF129
If 100 million guys in China, India or Vietnam can make goods for the world, what should other guys do?

Show your women a good time because you're too busy working. ;-)

36 posted on 01/12/2010 2:29:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: humblegunner

But I already bought the shrimp!


37 posted on 01/12/2010 2:51:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (May mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.)
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To: Tax-chick

Then we’ll cut you some slack this time.

Shrimp are like a sacred trust thing.


38 posted on 01/12/2010 2:53:18 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Mine are frozen, but at least they’re Jumbo Size. $12 worth - a lot of eaters here.


39 posted on 01/12/2010 2:58:16 PM PST by Tax-chick (May mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.)
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To: QF129

The rest of us could get government jobs. That would be totally unproductive but still get us out of the house a couple days a week.


40 posted on 01/12/2010 3:05:30 PM PST by kevao
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To: QF129

About a dozen good guys from the U.S. could do what those 100 million can do.


41 posted on 01/26/2010 3:03:51 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: QF129

Make better, higher-quality stuff that requires more labor.

Jaguars instead of Hyundai.


42 posted on 02/01/2010 8:08:35 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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