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Too Terrible To Be True?
Slate ^ | 1/20/10 | Dahlia Lithwick

Posted on 01/21/2010 12:59:20 PM PST by steve-b

Some torture stories are just too horrible to contemplate, while others are too complicated to understand. But Scott Horton's devastating new exposé of the possible murders of three prisoners at Guantanamo in 2006 is neither: It's simply too terrible to allow to be true. Which is why it has been mostly ignored this week in the mainstream American media and paid little attention by the usual crew of torture apologists on the right. The fact that three Guantanamo prisoners—none of whom had any links to terrorism and two of whom had already been cleared for release—may have been killed there and the deaths covered up, should be front-page news. That brand-new evidence of this possible atrocity from military guards was given only the most cursory investigation by the Obama administration should warrant some kind of blowback....

When the story first broke, Andrew Sullivan wrote: "This deserves to be the biggest story on the torture issue since Abu Ghraib—because it threatens to tear down the wall of lies and denial that have protected Americans from facing what the last administration actually did." But with the exception of a single AP story, the American media have been silent. The British papers have covered the story. The right-wing torture apologists have said virtually nothing....

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bogus; forcedfeeding; heated; hungerstrikes; lie; stupidity; suicide; troll

1 posted on 01/21/2010 12:59:20 PM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Slate is your source? Get serious next time if there is one.


2 posted on 01/21/2010 1:02:27 PM PST by em2vn
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To: steve-b

this BS will never end. We’ll be hearing bogus stories of torture for 20 years.


3 posted on 01/21/2010 1:02:54 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: steve-b

If “Salon” wonders that, then it must not be true.


4 posted on 01/21/2010 1:03:06 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: steve-b
If Andrew Sullivan & Slate say so.

...it is meant to be ignored.

5 posted on 01/21/2010 1:03:26 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: steve-b

It’s pure crap.
Too many people with anti-Bush agenda’s for this to have remained hidden this long.


6 posted on 01/21/2010 1:03:44 PM PST by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: steve-b

Cry me a river Dahlia.......who cares about them?


7 posted on 01/21/2010 1:03:52 PM PST by Gaffer ("Profling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: steve-b

exposé of the possible murders

In other words.....it’s BS.


8 posted on 01/21/2010 1:04:29 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: steve-b
Well,at least we know of *three* 9th Century knuckledragging pig fornicators who weren't released from Gitmo only to wind up in Afghanistan packing an AK-47!
9 posted on 01/21/2010 1:04:43 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: steve-b

If members of the military murdered prisoners and it can be proven then it deserves to told.

However, let’s also not ignore what happens in our prisons in the US.


10 posted on 01/21/2010 1:05:23 PM PST by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: steve-b

More koran flushing.


11 posted on 01/21/2010 1:05:46 PM PST by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: steve-b

Why post this nonsense? It’s not even worth arguing about.


12 posted on 01/21/2010 1:06:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: steve-b

I am not sure I believe that. We are supposed to buy into the assertion that the BO administration is in cahoots with the Bush administration to cover up something like this? Uh huh, and that particular Slate reporter has been doing her best to undermine our country since she was allowed to come here.


13 posted on 01/21/2010 1:06:43 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: steve-b

These terrorists should be tortured and then put a bullet in their brainpan. My heart bleeds purple piss, even though this is BS and you know it.


14 posted on 01/21/2010 1:08:00 PM PST by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: steve-b

“This deserves to be the biggest story on the torture issue since Abu Ghraib—...”

I am still mystified as to what was so torturous about Abu Ghraib. Was some sort of atrocity performed there or was it on level with fraternity hazing?


15 posted on 01/21/2010 1:08:33 PM PST by Hostage
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To: steve-b
It must be true because our military is really, really mean and one time, they fought a war and behaved so badly...WE ACTUALLY WON!!!!!!!

Great work steve-b.

16 posted on 01/21/2010 1:09:13 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: steve-b

Good grief. You believe any leftwing horseshit out there? What’s next, press releases from Code Pink?


17 posted on 01/21/2010 1:09:58 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: steve-b
I see you've taken a moment away from your normal posting of anti-Palin drivel to post this left-wing agitprop straight outta Harpers.

Why am I not suprised, stevie-b-troll?

18 posted on 01/21/2010 1:10:34 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: steve-b

Right Wing Torture Apologist here. It’s all lies. They were trying to escape. They asked for it. Buncha ragheads came over the fence to help them escape and we greased them all. I’ve been waterboarded lotsa times and it ain’t so bad. Bed-wetting liberals. Commies in government won’t let us do our jobs. Lying POS journalists.

Did I forget anything?


19 posted on 01/21/2010 1:10:43 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Deja Moo - The feeling that you have heard this BS before.)
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To: Hostage
Was some sort of atrocity performed there or was it on level with fraternity hazing?

It was considerably less serious than fraternity hazing, but the resurgent old hippies and their younger followers needed some sort of "My Lai Massacre" so they could make believe it was the '60s again.

20 posted on 01/21/2010 1:15:11 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: steve-b

I sure hope that more got tortured!.


21 posted on 01/21/2010 1:15:43 PM PST by bfree (The revolution is coming and it will be violent)
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To: steve-b
murders of three prisoners at Guantanamo

Boo-hoo.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 01/21/2010 1:18:34 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Cicero
Why post this nonsense?

steve-b has been posting this kind of nonsense on FR for years. He's one of out token libs. No holds barred with this troll.

23 posted on 01/21/2010 1:21:22 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ml/nj

9/11/01 is to terrible to be true.

Oh wait..


24 posted on 01/21/2010 1:21:55 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: steve-b

Keep digging. Do you need a new shovel?

This is about those 3 suicides, the ones that were forcefed after their hungerstrike about killed them. They left notes and everything.

Wake the hell up. Use that grapefruit on top of your shoulders.


25 posted on 01/21/2010 1:23:35 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: Hostage

I saw a commedian the other day who said the exact same thing.

The last time he was handcuffed to bed naked with underwear on his head he was having a great time. That’s not torture.


26 posted on 01/21/2010 1:36:55 PM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: Admin Moderator

I guess it was a rhetorical question.


27 posted on 01/21/2010 1:42:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: steve-b
I heard they carved up the prisons while still alive, and Bush and Cheney ate them a forkful at a time.

And then they sang the national anthem while drinking their blood and flushing Korans down the toilet.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

28 posted on 01/21/2010 1:51:24 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: The Comedian

And if your post was not hyperbolic satire, I still wouldn’t care.


29 posted on 01/21/2010 1:56:55 PM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: Hostage

The “atrocity” was that military lives were wrecked and the war effort trashed because of the Abu Ghraib “torture”. The media will never be happy till they put a bulls-eye on the back of every American soldier.


30 posted on 01/21/2010 1:57:05 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: misterrob

Exactly. I would be willing to bet that several each year, maybe one per month, somewhere... inmates are murdered in the prisons within the United States. Those stories are not really put out there in front of us.


31 posted on 01/21/2010 2:00:59 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: em2vn
Slate is your source? Get serious next time if there is one.

I usually ignore this poster, and if you value your time, you will too.

Anything that bashes America, this guy is on it.

In the interest of full disclosute, I am totally against torture also.
There terrorist should not be in any jail within 3000 miles of the United States.
They should be interrogated for a couple of weeks, or until useful information stops.
Then quickly and humanely executed. A bullet to the back of the head works well, I undertand.

End of problem or discussion about "torture."

32 posted on 01/21/2010 2:46:03 PM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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To: NEMDF

How about all of the white prisoners who are sexually assaulted on a daily basis and the guards do nothing to stop it?


33 posted on 01/22/2010 5:52:30 AM PST by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: steve-b

TROLL ALERT


34 posted on 01/23/2010 5:45:43 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: CholeraJoe
Did I forget anything?

Just little things like fact, intellectual honesty and the truth.

Curious how you are so willing to believe this accusation brought to you be the same people whose track record includes the lies about Bush's National Guard service, "flushing Korans down toilets at Gitmo" or "17 WH indictments coming on Fritmus".

But then your sort always will believe any baseless, unproven, accusation as long as it validates your emotion based political dogmas won't you?

God forbid any factual reality ever be allowed to penetrate your comfortable little ideological bubble world.

35 posted on 01/23/2010 7:49:22 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Michelle Bachmann is twice the man Arlen Spector will ever be!)
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To: MNJohnnie

You’re pretty opinionated for a newbie, aren’t you? How the heck do you know what “my sort” is? Just because you listen to Rush doesn’t make you intelligent.


36 posted on 01/24/2010 6:16:36 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Deja Moo - The feeling that you have heard this BS before.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Get your nomenclature right. It’s “goat fornicators” not pig.


37 posted on 01/25/2010 7:46:17 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: steve-b

If there were anything to it, the liberal news would have had it on every front page, no doubt what so ever.

The liberals hated George Bush because they thought he was more conservative than he really was.


38 posted on 02/15/2010 6:08:42 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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??


39 posted on 02/22/2010 10:29:19 AM PST by restornu (be confident in your faith; worry not what others say...like being a conservative these days, hm?)
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