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Where Was President Obama Really Born? Can This Issue Finally Be Settled?
All Voices ^ | August 4, 2010 | Kelly Woodcox

Posted on 08/10/2010 5:20:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Over twenty-five percent of Americans, say that President Obama's 49th birthday is not this week. A poll called “where were you really born that day?” summoned this up into question.

The persistent theory boosted heavily by conservative activists that Obama was not born in Hawaii, but that he was born outside of the country of the U.S. The CNN/Opinion research Corp. survey said 27 percent of responsive people doubt that Obama's father is telling the truth or that his birth certificate is real. 42% have no doubts, 29% said he probably was born in Hawaii, but couldn't give a sure answer. Democrats backed Obama more than Republicans. 14 percent of Republicans said he was NOT born in the United States. This issue began over Obama in the 2008 presidential campaign and has become a topic of interest with Rush Limbaugh and the so called 'Birther' movement. Hawaii has already released a “certified” copy of Obama's birth certificate. The 1961 archives of two local newspapers in Hawaii also show his birth announcements! Snopes.com has also checked into it.

Related Sources:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2010polls; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; polls
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In his book, Dreams from my Father, Mr. Obama admits that his father was a Kenyan and never held American citizenship, therefore, there is no way that our de facto president is a natural born citizen. Snopes is a lefty couple that live in a trailer and Factcheck is funded by the same people that hired Mr. Obama and Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers in Chicago. Nice try, though!
1 posted on 08/10/2010 5:21:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Where he was born is a strawman argument, one that Obama's people are now watering into fruition.

When the time is right they'll prove beyond a shadow of a doubt where he was born, and bury the eligibility issue behind that smokescreen.

2 posted on 08/10/2010 5:25:36 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think he was born. /s


3 posted on 08/10/2010 5:25:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mars?


4 posted on 08/10/2010 5:25:51 PM PDT by Thom Pain (2 + 2 = 4 : Defending the Constitution is CENTRIST; not RIGHT WING! Don't be labeled!)
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I’m beginning to believe he was born in hell. Only a spawn of satan could try to destroy the greatest nation in the history of the world.


5 posted on 08/10/2010 5:26:59 PM PDT by taillightchaser
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I don’t think he was born. /s

Lol - wishful thinking! ;o)

6 posted on 08/10/2010 5:27:43 PM PDT by MissTed (My dogs have more integrity then my President)
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Everybody knows hussein dunham was born in Kenya. Grandma Sarah witnessed the birth along with other relatives.


8 posted on 08/10/2010 5:32:42 PM PDT by biggredd1
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"I’m beginning to believe he was born in hell. Only a spawn of satan could try to destroy the greatest nation in the history of the world.
You get my vote for the post of the day.
9 posted on 08/10/2010 5:34:13 PM PDT by Chong (How's that HopEy, changEy, (thingEy) stuff working out for ya?)
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WTF?

Are we the only people that even realize this? It seems so freakin' simple to me, I can't understand why anyone is falling for the smoke (no pun intended).

10 posted on 08/10/2010 5:34:47 PM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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“Snopes has checked into it”.

Oh, well - that certainly settles it then.


11 posted on 08/10/2010 5:39:00 PM PDT by bigbob
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The notion that qualification as a natural born citizen requires that both parents be citizens is very much a minority opinion. Very few jurists, legal scholars, or politicians believe this to be true. If this belief were widely held, a challenge to Obama would have certainly been made before he was sworn in as President.

My opinion is this: Obama was born in Hawaii, as he has said and as the Governor of Hawaii has confirmed. The reason that he has spent over $2 million to destroy or conceal records of his early life, including his birth certificate is that he was later adopted by his Indonesian step-father and became an Indonesian citizen. When he was past the age of 18, he either obtained or renewed his Indonesian passport in order to use that document to gain entrance as a foreign student to either Occidental or Columbia, or both. By taking this action, he unknowingly renounced his original citizenship and even though he has certainly has his citizenship reinstated, he no longer can claim to be a natural born citizen, but rather he is a naturalized citizen.

However, even if my theory were proven to be 100% true, Obama would still be the legitimate President of the United States. His election was certified by the Vice President and by the Congress and he was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the United States. The only ways that he can be removed from office involuntarily before the end of his term is through the impeachment process or incapacitating illness.

The Birther Brigades will disagree with my opinion and they are quite welcome to hold their own. But, they are not entitled to insist that their opinion is correct and they are not entitled to demand that I accept their view. They will toss any number of silly insults my way for disagreeing with them.


12 posted on 08/10/2010 5:42:33 PM PDT by centurion316
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Snopes.com has also checked into it.

I hope they know that Snopes is a husband-and-wife outfit that they run out of their homes. It isn't some investigative outfit or a newspaper-affiliated resource.

-PJ

13 posted on 08/10/2010 5:43:17 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Chong

Thank you. I am honored!!


14 posted on 08/10/2010 5:44:31 PM PDT by taillightchaser
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To: bigbob

Chris Matthews said Dunham was born in Indonesia, if that helps any.


15 posted on 08/10/2010 5:45:57 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: centurion316

Do your homework or STFU! I have posted this to you MANY TIMES and you are too stupid to check the facts or can’t read! The British Nationality Act of 1948 granted BRITISH CITIZENSHIP to and child born of a BRITISH MALE CITIZEN!

Bambi was BOTH BRITISH and AMERICAN at birth. So, cut the BS and stop wasting our time, Obama TROLL!!


16 posted on 08/10/2010 5:50:28 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP

Sorry Jim! This guy really PO’s me off!


17 posted on 08/10/2010 5:52:11 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is hilarious.

They’ve begun to fight this.

And all of them will start with these stale talking points.


18 posted on 08/10/2010 5:53:22 PM PDT by CommieCutter (A Centrist Democrat is now defined as: between Socialism and Communism.)
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" The only ways that he can be removed from office involuntarily before the end of his term is through the impeachment process or incapacitating illness. "

WRONG -- 'You' cannot impeach someone who was never LEGALLY elected.

19 posted on 08/10/2010 5:55:48 PM PDT by Freeper (Obama - Please STOP representing MY country!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Snopes.com headquarters has verified Obama's birth!snopes headquarters
20 posted on 08/10/2010 6:02:17 PM PDT by CommieCutter (A Centrist Democrat is now defined as: between Socialism and Communism.)
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