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How the Worst President Ever Ended Up on a Controverisal New Coin (James Buchanan)
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| 8-19-2010
| Alex Eichler
Posted on 08/21/2010 7:17:45 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The Southerners who contributed to winning the Revolution often had very little in common with the losers that led their states into rebellion. You're a complete idiot if you believe that. Are you saying that RE Lee had very little in common with his father? Are you that blinded by your hatred of the South?
I can answer that for you: Yes.
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posted on
08/21/2010 3:44:17 PM PDT
by
cowboyway
(Molon labe)
To: cowboyway
Nobody forced the plantation gang into rebellion. What “oppression” did the drones suffer that required a revolt?
To: Colonel Kangaroo
No, Carter and Obama are not eligible. No Carter, no Reagan.
To: cowboyway
Robert E. Lee did not lead his state into rebellion. He was against secession.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
So will Grover Cleveland appear twice?
To: Non-Sequitur
No Carter, no Reagan. I wonder who Obama will make possible. I'm afraid I see no Reagans on the horizon.
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The Overmountain men who won at King's Mountain. Not only did they have little in common with the low country hotheads, a large number of their descendants were mountain Unionists in the Civil War.
So is this it? Yeah there were some "pockets" of Unionists in North Carolina, and in north Alabama. You know "pockets".
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posted on
08/21/2010 3:58:21 PM PDT
by
mstar
To: cowboyway
You do by your very vitriolic opposition to everything Southern.You make the common mistake of confusing the Confederacy with everything Southern. Not everything about the South is Confederate-only the bad things.
I ony use the term "mudsill" in reference to the way the plantation types usually thought of them. Three of those mudsills were my ancestors. Two of them didn't even desert to the Yankees. I'm a real life honest Son of a Confederate Veteran. I've even got an ancestor whose name is on the SCV monument of honor in Walker County, Georgia. HAHA. I'm going to start my own camp-the William T. Sherman Camp of the SCV.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
Most of them couldn't be bothered to get off their plantation to fight their own rebellion. Had to let the starving mudsills do their fighting for them.
Most of them? Who and when?
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posted on
08/21/2010 4:02:09 PM PDT
by
mstar
To: mstar
So is this it? Yeah there were some "pockets" of Unionists in North Carolina, and in north Alabama. You know "pockets".I think you underestimate those pockets you mention and totally omit one huge "pocket" in East Tennessee.
To: mstar
You should read a book entitled “Bitterly Divided” by David Williams. It will make a true son of Dixie’s blood boil.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
totally omit one huge "pocket" in East Tennessee.
Apparently and for good reason.
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posted on
08/21/2010 4:13:11 PM PDT
by
mstar
To: Colonel Kangaroo
You should read a book entitled Bitterly Divided by David Williams. It will make a true son of Dixies blood boil.
So if one's blood doesn't boil for the same reason as yours, they are not "a true son of Dixie"?
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posted on
08/21/2010 4:17:10 PM PDT
by
mstar
To: mstar
So if one's blood doesn't boil for the same reason as yours, they are not "a true son of Dixie"?It all depends on whether you are bothered by poor Southern soldiers and civilians being treated badly by the Confederate elite.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
I think you underestimate those pockets you mention and totally omit one huge "pocket" in East Tennessee.Speaking of "pockets": From what I can tell from history, all of Ohio was copperhead-ville.
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posted on
08/21/2010 4:47:57 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
It all depends on whether you are bothered by poor Southern soldiers and civilians being treated badly by the Confederate elite.
Do you have the names of these "Confederate elite"? What qualified them as "the elite"?
Where and when did this bad treatment happen, and how often?
Was a reason given for the "bad treatment" or did they choose at random poor southern soldiers and civilians to abuse?
Perhaps they needed some extra slaves to beat for their weekend pleasure. /s
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posted on
08/21/2010 4:49:03 PM PDT
by
mstar
To: central_va
Speaking of "pockets": From what I can tell from history, all of Ohio was copperhead-ville. A lot of it was. Even more of a reason why the Civil War should not be thought of as a simple North versus South affair. There's many great things about the South but the political Confederacy was not one of them.
To: Colonel Kangaroo
2012 will see the release of the Chester A. Arthur dollar coin "That's great news, Detective McLane!"
To: mstar
Do you have the names of these "Confederate elite"? What qualified them as "the elite"?Where and when did this bad treatment happen, and how often?
Was a reason given for the "bad treatment" or did they choose at random poor southern soldiers and civilians to abuse?
The book I mentioned has the answers to your questions.
Perhaps they needed some extra slaves to beat for their weekend pleasure. /s
Nothing like that was mentioned in the book.
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