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Selling Stupidity (Idiots listen to Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and Palin) [Another Doozy!]
Nolan Chart ^ | October 5, 2010 | Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 10/05/2010 12:34:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In trying to understand how so many Americans adore people like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh I have come to this critical understanding: Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols. They feel angry, frustrated, ignored, cheated and disillusioned by so much going on in American society. They find the emotional, political and philosophical rants by talk show, loud mouth celebrities matching and justifying their feelings. Of course, those celebrities work hard to fan the flames of all that unhappiness and discontent, and also perpetuate ignorance. They sell stupidity to gullible dummies, teaching them who to blame for their misery.

I am no conservative or liberal and I know I sound terribly condescending and will be viewed as an elitist by those dummies, not that they read much by those they do not idolize. However, I have spent considerable time following what these demon idols say and write to seriously investigate whether I might be missing something of value. But all I see are huge quantities of totally incorrect and distorted information, absolute nonsense, outright insanity, abuse of logic, exaggerations, toxic half truths, intentional disinformation, racism and bigotry, and extreme political views that have no connection to reality and offer no workable solutions to the nation's complex problems. Slick sound-bite slogans push propaganda substitutes for verifiable facts.

How to understand how so many people can listen to such celebrities and not feel as nauseous as I and so many other Americans feel when listening to them? Clearly we must accept the disturbing fact that there are many millions of suffering Americans that are mental midgets, a sign of the dumbing-down of America. No surprise really when you remember there are millions of people wasting their money on gambling, lottery tickets, cons and scams, junk products and unhealthy foods, or unable to qualify for decent jobs because of a lack of knowledge and skills. Either they were born stupid (a harsh but true statistical reality) or the many ups and downs of life have robbed them of any critical thinking ability to see through the idiocy that these purveyors of poison peddle while making obscene millions of dollars.

Consider recent Pew Center Research poll results that showed 18 percent of Republicans do not know that the Democrats control the House of Representatives and 35 percent do not know who the Vice President is. Research has found Fox News butchers facts and its devotees are the most ignorant, and in recent years Republicans have overwhelmingly gone to Fox to get their news and information. Note: 80 percent who regularly listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Sean Hannity are conservative. I'm not saying that "No truth, just spin" should be the Fox motto, but it sure fits.

I can easily relate to the many people treated unfairly, unjustly and even brutally by the political and economic system. But those who have drifted over to the dark side of the right-wing, conservative arena and become addicted to the rhetoric of delusion have nothing in common with those that once made the United States a noble nation worthy of respect. Their idols talk a lot about the Founders and Constitution, but share none of the fine qualities of those that created our republic. They also pick and choose what parts of the Constitution to adore, mocking the rule of law.

As an independent, I too am extremely critical of the political and economic system and how the middle class has been purposefully harmed by a rich and powerful Upper Class that has turned the nation into a plutocracy serving the greed of individuals and corporations. I want revolution and true reforms. I condemn both major political parties and see elections as useless anachronisms.

I too feel disenfranchised, full of dissent and disgust with broken government, broken educational and health care systems, crumbling inadequate infrastructure, widespread corruption and dishonesty, and an economy dispensing inequality and injustice. Yet, try as I have, I cannot see any merit in what these powerful right-wing demigods dish out, all done to pump millions of dollars into their pockets and pump up their egos. They sell themselves as the defenders of the downtrodden and abused, but this is just a con game designed to keep millions of dollars coming to them and their fellow fat cats. When their supporters vote for Republicans they vote against their own economic interests, unless they are rich.

These false populists are fundamentally no different than the evil elite forces that this fraction of the population despises. Perversely, they have become a part of the ruling class they routinely condemn. They are the worst kind of idols, manipulating and soaking their audiences and admirers. They pitch poisonous and addicting fast food rhetoric, words as pleasing as salt, sugar and fat laden foods and as eagerly gulped down. This results in mental capacity becoming as clogged as the arteries in overweight and obese Americans.

What is evil? Right-wing hypocritical hucksters pitching messages of values, morals, freedom and patriotism crafted to sucker the least informed, emotionally stressed and unintelligent Americans for the sake of power and money. These idols live like royalty (for example, Limbaugh makes $60 million a year and Beck $35 million) while their loyal fans treasure fantasy expectations and block out information that would cause too much pain by piercing the delusions they have succumbed to. By putting their faith in false idols they become unknowing victims of the media corpocracy profiting from these idols.

What a culture, where so few can take advantage of so many and make fortunes doing it. The real goal of the demon idols is to further divide the nation, not fix it and make it better. Why? Because divisiveness is what sells and makes them big money. Shame on them. Those who worship them need more worthy heroes if they really love their country and want to make it better for all its citizens. The rest of us need to ignore the false idols and their followers, showing them no respect whatsoever, condemning them at every opportunity.


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KEYWORDS: 2010electionbias; 911truther; bds; beck; beckbashing; dnctalkingpoints; foxbashing; hannity; idiotorial; imnotanut; ivorytower; joelshirschhorn; limbaugh; nateringnabob; negativity; palin; projection; rushbashing; sarahpalin; talkradio; trufer; truther
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So then because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth. Revelation 3:16
1 posted on 10/05/2010 12:34:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And then he stuck out his tongue and mooned us.


2 posted on 10/05/2010 12:36:03 PM PDT by DManA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols.

People who need idols are what gave us The Worst President Ever in 2008 with not so much as a slightly critical glance at his qualifications, background, or philosophy.
3 posted on 10/05/2010 12:38:26 PM PDT by Genoa (Put the kettle on!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They sell stupidity to gullible dummies, teaching them who to blame for their misery.

No, that would be the democRATS as pumped up by the MSM.

4 posted on 10/05/2010 12:38:33 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols. They feel angry, frustrated, ignored, cheated and disillusioned by so much going on in American society. They find the emotional, political and philosophical rants by talk show, loud mouth celebrities matching and justifying their feelings.

I agree, Chris Mattews, Keith Olbermann, Rosie O'Donnell and Rachel Madcow fans are SO insipid and shallow...

5 posted on 10/05/2010 12:39:08 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Joel’s bio:
Formerly a senior staffer for the U.S. Congress and the National Governors Association, a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and head of an environmental consulting company. Now a writer of books and articles on politics, government and economics. His latest book is Delusional Democracy - Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government. A regular contributor to a number of popular Internet sites, including Opednews.com, AtlanticFreePress.com, CounterBias.com, BlackListedNews.com, OnLineJournal.com, PoliticalCortex.com, and The Progress Report.


6 posted on 10/05/2010 12:39:33 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It needed a BARF ALERT. So if 18% of Republicans do not know that Democrats control the legislative houses, does that mean that 82% DO know that? How many dems know? Seems they don’t know or forgot who has controlled them for the past few years.


7 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:00 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols.”

I guess thats why Obama ran a rational and reasoned approach to governing while maintaining the dignity of the individual? That McCain with his hero worship and empty platitudes worked so well on the poorly educated? Damn republicans sucking off their neighbor and worshiping an Arizona community organizer. Yep, idol says it all Joel.


8 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:00 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe another 10-20 points on this dufuses IQ may enlighted him?


9 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:20 PM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio - US Senate, West FL22nd, Scott/Carroll - FL Gov/LtGov, Miller-AK US Senate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am no conservative or liberal and I know I sound terribly condescending and will be viewed as an elitist by those dummies

You are a liberal; why be so sheepish about the truth? Your whole argument would be toothless if you didnt throw that false caveat in there, wouldnt it? Liar, liar pants on fire.

10 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:35 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols"

Hence, Zer0.

11 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where to start? Too high of a mountain for me to even make an attempt. Whoever suggested that there are multiple universes was correct.
12 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:43 PM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Excellent, good use of Revelation 3:16!
13 posted on 10/05/2010 12:40:56 PM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Repeal ObamaCare")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pew Center Research poll results that showed 18 percent of Republicans do not know that the Democrats control the House of Representatives and 35 percent don't know who the vice President is"

Huh? I would love to see the poll he is citing. I don't believe this at all

14 posted on 10/05/2010 12:41:39 PM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Conservatives "worship" no one! You don't see signs with peoples faces on them, you do with Obama-ism. Conservatives don't have a mantra they chant, with Obama, it was "Yes we can!". Conservatives don't wrap up their self esteem in the visage and personage of another, like Liberals have done with Obama.

No, friends, it is not Conservatives who worship idols, it is Liberals.

15 posted on 10/05/2010 12:43:05 PM PDT by Paradox (Democrats new Motto: Vini, Vidi, Lewinski!)
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To: DManA

“And then he stuck out his tongue and mooned us.”

That sums it up pretty well. Amazing that we are getting so much dumber through an education system that is run primarily by liberals.


16 posted on 10/05/2010 12:43:23 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Ken522
Also a 911 truther:
http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html
17 posted on 10/05/2010 12:43:23 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people..."


Wow! He sure knows how to win people over to his point of view /not.

18 posted on 10/05/2010 12:43:49 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Typical homosexual hissy fit.
19 posted on 10/05/2010 12:44:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If Obama was the answer---that must have been one stupid question!)
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To: Genoa
In answer to this article, everyone should read this about narcissists. Here is a sample of what is contained on the page:

We are in a spiritual crisis on our planet because the dark hearts are ruling the world. They are the ones who are only able to see the world through the eyes of personal gain, without concern for the whole of humanity. The dark hearts are empty vessels that need to be filled with outside energy, power and material wealth. They are truly godless beings because they have closed off all access to the God force, or to the light of God/Goddess/Spirit or whatever you are comfortable calling it.

http://www.narcissismfree.com/art_darkhearts.php

20 posted on 10/05/2010 12:44:55 PM PDT by blondee123 (Illinois ELECT Adam Kinzinger - http://www.electadam.com/( rid US of marxism!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
His comment about being neither conservative or liberal was a two-bagger!

It reminds me of the old conversation starter, "Now, some of my best friends are..."

Listening to Glenn Beck, I am willing to make the observation that I see him evolving from a talk show host to a philosopher. I know that there are many who can't stand him, but I enjoy the way he presents his concepts for consideration, unlike the liberals who cram it down our throats and dare us to reject their concepts.

21 posted on 10/05/2010 12:45:24 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: DManA

Where does the left get such deep thinkers?


22 posted on 10/05/2010 12:46:20 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm a soldier of good fortune, I'm guarding the Yucatan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“. . . all I see are huge quantities of totally incorrect and distorted information, absolute nonsense, outright insanity, abuse of logic, exaggerations, toxic half truths, intentional disinformation, racism and bigotry, and extreme political views that have no connection to reality and offer no workable solutions to the nation’s complex problems. Slick sound-bite slogans push propaganda substitutes for verifiable facts.”

Curiously, that’s all I see emanating from the left, especially this Administration.


23 posted on 10/05/2010 12:46:25 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is under the impresson that Seiu employees have PHds.

he probably needs to get educated on that point.


24 posted on 10/05/2010 12:46:36 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Poorly educated, terribly informed, intellectually deficient and downright stupid people need idols

Both images are by the same artist and even incorporate the same "OBEY-GIANT".

25 posted on 10/05/2010 12:47:10 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His whole premise is flawed. Sure, the above mentioned pundits draw a large listening audience within the world of talk radio/TV commentary. But when you compare those numbers with the American population you will discover that most people don’t listen to talk radio or watch the talking head TV shows.

I have no figures to back up my assertion, just a general sense. I could be way off here.


26 posted on 10/05/2010 12:47:40 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Redleg Duke
Beck? Great guitarist, I've heard. Palin? I liked him in the "Argument Clinic" sketch!

just kidding!

27 posted on 10/05/2010 12:47:45 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy should mail this letter to all registered Republican’s and Independents.


28 posted on 10/05/2010 12:48:02 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Genoa

I completely agree with you. The author is a kool-aid drinker that can’t handle the truth from the conservative media. The problem for the liberals is that the socialist actions have spoken louder than words and Americans are waking up to the fact that Barry was something other than advertised. Even some of the liberal buyers are having remorse now and the polling reflects it.


29 posted on 10/05/2010 12:48:47 PM PDT by toolman1401
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To: caseinpoint; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans

“. . . all I see are huge quantities of totally incorrect and distorted information, absolute nonsense, outright insanity, abuse of logic, exaggerations, toxic half truths, intentional disinformation, racism and bigotry, and extreme political views that have no connection to reality and offer no workable solutions to the nation’s complex problems. Slick sound-bite slogans push propaganda substitutes for verifiable facts.”

PROJECTION

30 posted on 10/05/2010 12:48:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh my. I do believe Joel’s narcissistic supply tank is empty.


31 posted on 10/05/2010 12:49:01 PM PDT by Wiser now (Happiness is not an absence of problems, but the ability to deal with them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since the article is one-sided and bias with no disdain for the other side, my deduction; this person is a liberal. A one-sided story against conservatives is always the work of a liberal.

I too enjoyed the reference utilized, 2ndDivisionVet.

32 posted on 10/05/2010 12:50:15 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform)
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To: NMEwithin

I agree. I think the alinskyite “non-partisan” author lies through his teeth.


33 posted on 10/05/2010 12:50:19 PM PDT by Post5203 (Let's make election 2010 EJECTION 2010. Time for a complete do-over.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I started to tell this toad just how stupid and dishonest he is, but you have to register at the site to comment, and I won’t give them the hit. Apparently this guy considers Olbie, Schultz, Madcow, etc. intelligent and honest.

I know a few people exactly like this guy. He’s a leftie who claims to be “independent” because he’s too cowardly to admit he’s a leftist, but considers himself a genius and anybody who dares to disagree with him an idiot. Like the guys I know, his personal life is probably a total failure, for which he blames everybody else.


34 posted on 10/05/2010 12:52:33 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THere are two broad types of opinion writers. Those who seek to reach out to people and change their opinions to match that of the writer, and those who seek to validate the views people already have in the hopes they can build a loyal audience so they can keep getting paid.

This author is clearly of the second type, since there is no way what he wrote would ever persuade those he argues against to change their minds.


35 posted on 10/05/2010 12:52:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What a culture, where so few can take advantage of so many and make fortunes doing it. The real goal of the demon idols is to further divide the nation, not fix it and make it better.

Well lets see what Ed Shultz has to say about that.

We, as one nation..., must stand together; must fight the forces of evil, the conservatives in this country, across the board.... They talk about the Constitution but they don't wanna live by it; they talk about our forefathers but they want discrimination. They want to change this country!"

Special Ed at the One marxist nation rally.
36 posted on 10/05/2010 12:53:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I once again really hoped someone from the other side might (be able to) offer some logical discourse to what one knows going in, is perceived as a wrong viewpoint.

I have no problem whatsoever being shown I was wrong, where and how I got there and perhaps even offer an alternative direction of thought.

nope

Everyone's an evil and/or insane idiot with no validation for the statement.

I don't go into barrooms anymore because of the inability to have an intelligent conversation.

There were a couple of pubs I enjoyed in the late '60's/early '70's in Boston that were a joy to lift a pint in.

sigghhh

37 posted on 10/05/2010 12:53:05 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Nonstatist

As you can see from this idiots article, this is just another example of ‘All Democrats are Liars’ thesis that I have been promoting for years. For this idiot liberal slime ball to state that ‘he is not a liberal’ is absolute bull sh*t.


38 posted on 10/05/2010 12:53:24 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: Ken522
Formerly a senior staffer for the U.S. Congress and the National Governors Association, a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and head of an environmental consulting company.

Right out of the birthplace of the Progressive movement...squeal, 'lil piggy.

39 posted on 10/05/2010 12:53:54 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: NMEwithin

A larger number of Democrats in 2008 were “unaware” that Congress (house and senate) was already being run by the Democrats.

The poll appeared during the 2008 election.

But again, this author is telling half-truths and distortions....


40 posted on 10/05/2010 12:54:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am no conservative or liberal

Lie.

41 posted on 10/05/2010 12:55:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yet, try as I have, I cannot see any merit in what these powerful right-wing demigods dish out, all done to pump millions of dollars into their pockets and pump up their egos. They sell themselves as the defenders of the downtrodden and abused, but this is just a con game designed to keep millions of dollars coming to them and their fellow fat cats.

Typical class envy from a bitter leftist.

He probably does pretty well as a professor and "head of an environmental consulting firm," although that could be anything from a big corporation to a landscaping truck.

Still, no matter how much he makes, he thinks it unfair that he is soooooooo very smart (all his smart-too peers tell him so) and yet there are rubes who make much more money than he does.

He needs the government to come in and equalize the pay scales, because these disparities irk him so.

At his core, he's driven to embrace leftwing fascism by his own envy and greed. And we're all too dumb to agree with his goals.

42 posted on 10/05/2010 12:55:00 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Okay, who pooped on this guy’s breakfast?


43 posted on 10/05/2010 12:55:08 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)....Richard Frank DeCamp, 11/13/34-9/15/10, R.I.P.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hirschhorn does precisely what he accuses Fox of doing.

He says:
“Consider recent Pew Center Research poll results that showed 18 percent of Republicans do not know that the Democrats control the House of Representatives and 35 percent do not know who the Vice President is. “

He fails to mention that in the same poll 29 percent of Democrats do not know that the Democrats control the House and 38% do not know that Joe Biden is the VP.

And who does Hirschhorn rely on for his assertion about Fox distorting the facts - the Soros funded, self proclainmed Progressive media watch dog, Media Matters.

Clearly the guy is self delusional. He was right in some regards. He is condescending and an elitist simpleton. Libertarians come in all shapes and sizes. The ones that think they are superior to others should check their hubris at the door. Like it or not this is a representative democracy and the people will have the last say. Without doubt and as the Founding Fathers clearly understood, populism has its dangers, but then so does elitism and all other ...isms.


44 posted on 10/05/2010 12:55:21 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In trying to understand how so many Americans adore people like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh

Try harder! It may eventually fall within your grasp.

45 posted on 10/05/2010 12:58:45 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: NMEwithin
I would love to see the poll he is citing

I think M. Medved was talking about this poll yesterday. The number for Democrats not knowing that Democrats control the House was something much larger.

46 posted on 10/05/2010 12:59:06 PM PDT by Tellurian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dang! That’s some rant! It took me a half-dozen paragraphs to figure out he wasn’t talking about Olbermann.


47 posted on 10/05/2010 12:59:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am Derek Fenton! (me) Enjoying freedom ourselves requires tolerating it for others. (Jedidah))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As an independent...

Who only attacks conservatives...

I want revolution and true reforms...

He wants someone with muscles to tell those other guys what to do...

and see elections as useless anachronisms.

Exactly. If he wants to know your opinion, he'll tell you what it is first. Don't ask to have any say in his perfect revolution.

48 posted on 10/05/2010 12:59:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: Paladin2

My idols are the founders of this country. Not Mao, Stalin, Lenin et.all. His are the latter.


49 posted on 10/05/2010 1:00:04 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only mouth-breathing conservatives need idols? I give you ...

Al Gore — brains of a hatrack, ethics of a hyena.
Joe Biden — makes Al Gore look like a Nobel Prize winner.
Michael Moore — could swallow a Buick or two Smart Cars. Creates propaganda so lopsided it tips over laying down.
Che Guevara — two-bit toady who murdered his way to the top of a third-world dungheap.
Bill Clinton — morals of a drunken frat pledge.

And then there’s the “transparent” “hope-and-change” champion of the Little Guy, Barack Obama ...

Yep. Conservatives shouldn’t be so quick to idolize the unworthy ...


50 posted on 10/05/2010 1:00:27 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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