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Ruger Mk. III 24/45
none | Captain Ray

Posted on 10/16/2010 4:17:23 PM PDT by Captain Ray

The Ruger MK. III 22/45 is a fine weapon.. for plinking.. killing small varmints, shooting at pop cans, and just an all around fun .22 to shoot.. It sure is hard to take apart and put back together!

Not that there is any real good reason to take it apart and put it back together... It's just something I like doing with my down time. Helps me focus on lifes real problems..

I've owned this little shooter for several years.. but hadn't taken it out of the safe for a long time.. Just had the thought that I would put it in my grizzly man hands and take it apart and put it back together for no good reason. Getting it apart was no problem.. simple enough.. putting it back together was a problem tho'! LOL

So.. after several attempts, and not much success, I go online to a wide variety of U-tube videos to help me.. and they did help.. I got it put back together.. and immediatly took it apart to see if I could put it back togther again.. and then I went back to U-tube to get it put back together again... then I tore it apart again.. (Cuz my hunny is off in Warrenton for the weekend, and I really don't have anything else to do..) and.. I managed to put it back together again three times in a row!

I'm wondering.. why the heck do you have to turn it upside down, insert the mag, then right it, pull the trigger and take out the mag and all that stuff.. as sweet a little gun that this is, why is it so hard to maintain? And what is more irritating.. is that now that I know what a pain in the keaster it is to maintain it I am compelled to take the damn thing apart and put it back together again until I know exactly why each step has to be taken!

It's not OCD.. I dont think.. But still.. If someone out there could explain the individual steps to me I would really apreciste it.

Raymond


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2ndammendment; banglist; gadgets; guns; toys

1 posted on 10/16/2010 4:17:24 PM PDT by Captain Ray
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To: Captain Ray

How much time does it require to take it apart and put it back together?


2 posted on 10/16/2010 4:20:06 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Captain Ray

Is it broken?


3 posted on 10/16/2010 4:21:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Captain Ray

I call these the “urban 22 lites”, because they shoot at 1200 FPS, and they come equipped with a LEGAL sound suppressor. You can shoot these in the most uptight neighborhood and still kill those pesky raccoons.

http://www.gamousa.com/family.aspx?familyID=71

gamo whisper .177 cal and .22 cal pellet guns.


4 posted on 10/16/2010 4:23:16 PM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: Captain Ray

http://ylatis.com/darkon/humor/flochart.html


5 posted on 10/16/2010 4:23:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Captain Ray
why the heck do you have to turn it upside down, insert the mag, then right it, pull the trigger and take out the mag and all that stuff..

Because (removes hat, stands at attention) John Moses Browning didn't invent it.

/johnny

6 posted on 10/16/2010 4:24:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Paladin2; Captain Ray; CrazyIvan
I haven't handled a Ruger 24/45, but I've had to clean two Mk II's and I only have one thing to say -

#@$#@%@%$#$&&%^$$%#@@@@

Bill Ruger was a firearms genius, but p!$$ on the take down design for the Mk I and Mk II series pistols. The Pope would break down in a swearing fit if he had to put one of those back together.

7 posted on 10/16/2010 4:25:37 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire')
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To: Captain Ray

I’ve learned the hard way not to disassemble any firearm any further an the manual recommends. This is especially true of Ruger .22s. The engineering on them is superb, but not for anyone who isn’t a trained gunsmith.

Strictly my opinion, your mileage may vary.


8 posted on 10/16/2010 4:26:37 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Captain Ray

I had my first one around 1974. It was just as hard to reassemble as they say. I have owned probably a dozen since then and they haven’t improved the field stripping a bit.

Interestingly, that first 4” barrel one was the most accurate of the bunch and that includes several target models. None have been inaccurate tho.


9 posted on 10/16/2010 4:27:15 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Learn the “trick”
Or, there is an aftermarket thing where you remove a hex screw and the gun comes apart without having to use the “trick”

I don’t bother stripping my “std” model just blast it out with scrubber upside down so the dirt runs out the top.


10 posted on 10/16/2010 4:29:47 PM PDT by omega4179 (Rino hunt 2010!)
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To: Beaten Valve
4 youtube minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkPN87hRgbE

11 posted on 10/16/2010 4:33:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Captain Ray

I have a 22/45 and it is a fun gun to shoot. I also have a S&W mod41 it is the best shooting .22 pistol I ever shot bar none.


12 posted on 10/16/2010 4:40:06 PM PDT by Downsouth55 ("X rebel")
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To: Beaten Valve

a minute or so, after you practice twenty times or so! LOL

Raymond


13 posted on 10/16/2010 5:01:00 PM PDT by Captain Ray
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To: JRandomFreeper

OM GOSH! That was funny! I lub you man!

Raymond


14 posted on 10/16/2010 5:02:11 PM PDT by Captain Ray
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To: Captain Ray
I'm the guy that posts the annual "Happy Birthday {John Moses Browning/Eugine M Stoner} threads in November and January here on FR. I know who I owe my life to.

Respect is earned, not given. They earned mine. They were some really, really good enginners.

/johnny

15 posted on 10/16/2010 5:08:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Or even engineers. Sheesh.


16 posted on 10/16/2010 5:09:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tailback

Ping


17 posted on 10/16/2010 5:18:06 PM PDT by Captain Ray
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To: Captain Ray

A bent paperclip can help.

Unlike a 1911 which one can disassemble and reassemble with increasing ease and speed, Mk II and 22/45’s don’t get any easier the upteenth time you try.

Each one is an exercise in luck.

Good thing they really don’t need to be disassembled to be cleaned well enough to function.


18 posted on 10/16/2010 5:20:22 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If you ever find a ‘Unique’ Model 52 22 LR, made in France, buy it! It is based on the Browning Hi-Power system and is one really fine little pistol. I recently acquired a 3 inch barrel model. What a fine little pistol it is!


19 posted on 10/16/2010 5:23:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

When I started college, I couldn’t even SPELL enginner. Now I is one!


20 posted on 10/16/2010 5:24:11 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Hardastarboard
Bill Ruger was a firearms genius, but p!$$ on the take down design for the Mk I and Mk II series pistols.

I'll take my Walther PS22 with a 4" all day long ... accurate, all kinds of fun to plink with, easy to clean.

21 posted on 10/16/2010 5:29:16 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Captain Ray

What I didn’t like was the little thingy in the magazine well that flips back and forth. My browning is a pain too.


22 posted on 10/16/2010 5:33:53 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: MHGinTN

I have a Unique model L. It is nothing like a Browning Hi-Power but it does have a 3” barrel, is pretty accurate and is remarkably reliable.

I have owned it for many years and it is the pistol I often put in my pocket when I walk around the yard or nearby woods. It has never jammed, ever, tho I do recall it failing to ignite a cartridge a couple of times. That is not too unusual for .22 rimfire rounds. I have had one do that occasionally with just about any .22 including rifles.


23 posted on 10/16/2010 5:40:33 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Captain Ray

I had one of these as a loaner, and felt compelled to give it a thorough cleaning. I almost thought I was going to have to return it to the owner in pieces. Gawd, what a pain in the a$$!


24 posted on 10/16/2010 5:48:35 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: Downsouth55

I sell these, so I know how... So, to get back to the orig. ? you can see videos showing Ruger MK III disassembly if you go to Youtube and type that into the search.

Mary Kay at PersonalSecurityZone.com


25 posted on 10/16/2010 5:55:20 PM PDT by PersonalSecurityZoneDOTcom
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To: Downsouth55

When I go to the range, I always start with my Smith 41, It is a cheap way to get into the zone before shooting .40.
It’s about the same weight as my SIG.


26 posted on 10/16/2010 6:15:23 PM PDT by Waverunner (")
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To: yarddog

I need a couple of mags for the little Unique Model 52, .22 LR. No one seems to have any, even for the Corsair Model D which is the same gun! I have a 15 round mag for it. Got the last one Numrich had.


27 posted on 10/16/2010 6:59:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Captain Ray
why the heck do you have to turn it upside down, insert the mag, then right it, pull the trigger and take out the mag and all that stuff

Gravity. This gun was not made to reassemble in Space.

28 posted on 10/16/2010 6:59:41 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: yarddog

BTW, the Winchester .22LR ammo seems to be the best in .22 handguns. I’ve had the very least trouble with it. Remington, on the other hand, is rife with misfires!


29 posted on 10/16/2010 7:00:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Captain Ray

I shot that as a child and just love that thing.

Just feels good in the hand.

As far as the cleaning goes, every gun is little different but it comes apart in 5 easy pieces and goes back together pretty easily.

I know I was a little perturbed with my first Kimber but now I clean them lickety split.

Just practice with it.


30 posted on 10/16/2010 7:04:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MHGinTN

I used to visit the magazine vendors every time I went to a gun show. I finally found one but the price was way too high. Since I have a couple of other pocket pistols in .22 (A Walther PP and a Hungarian copy) and each came with a spare mag, I just don’t worry about it any more. Still would like to have a spare one tho.


31 posted on 10/16/2010 7:05:48 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

I pocket carried a Phoenix Arms .22 LR for years, with an extra mag in the other pocket. Great little cheap gun. I even have two of them in stainless and the interchangeable five inch barrels for range fun. Does Phoenix arms make a .32 that’s reliable?


32 posted on 10/16/2010 7:08:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I bought my Unique in a pawn shop for $55. It sort of looked a bit like the cheap pocket pistols but I could tell it was very well machined.

I looked it up in the Blue Book and was surprised how much they are valued at. I think over $300 in excellent shape.


33 posted on 10/16/2010 7:14:01 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Captain Ray
Don't get me started on mechanical engineering and the bored graduates who go to work for gun and car companies with the single-minded goal of creating things so complicated that they won't ever get *more* bored by looking at the exploded diagrams.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

34 posted on 10/16/2010 7:19:10 PM PDT by The Comedian (They Live. We Sleep.)
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To: yarddog

If you have access to the Blue book, what is a price range for the Unique Mod 52 in excellent condition. This little pistol looks like no more than 50 rounds have been through it! Bluing is in excellent condition and has black grips I bought for it.


35 posted on 10/16/2010 7:20:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t have one. I looked it up at a dealers.

It is probably available on-line but I am not sure.


36 posted on 10/16/2010 7:23:02 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

Thanks


37 posted on 10/16/2010 8:04:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I need a couple of mags for the little Unique Model 52, .22 LR. No one seems to have any, even for the Corsair Model D which is the same gun! I have a 15 round mag for it. Got the last one Numrich had.

I think Gunbroker has at least one mag.

38 posted on 10/16/2010 9:07:02 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Thank you! I’ll check them out ... that’s an ‘ebay’ for guns, right?


39 posted on 10/17/2010 7:36:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Still Thinking

Just did a search for Unique Mod52 and Corsair ModD, none at gunbroker.


40 posted on 10/17/2010 8:27:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
Factory Unique mod. 52 20RD. .22LR. magazine
41 posted on 10/17/2010 9:11:23 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Interesting. Thanks, I’m looking for a 10 round mag. I already have a large capacity mag for the pistol. The one you linked to is interesting since it appears someone cut that mag up to allow insertion of a tool to facilitate loading of 22LR ammo. I might acquire that mag and cut off the solid large cap mag I have, to make it a ten or eleven rounder!


42 posted on 10/17/2010 9:18:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I had a devil of a time figuring out how to load the mag in my Mark III. The rim won’t fit through the front of the feed lips, so they cut a vertical slot in the top middle of the mag (it must feed out the same way), and it took me like 10 minutes to figure it out the first time. In my defense, it’s the first rimfire auto I’ve laid hands on in 20 years.


43 posted on 10/17/2010 9:58:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MHGinTN

It was really annoying too, cause the useless manual goes into nauseating detail on anything safety related and anything you would know from any other gun, but when it gets to loading the mag, it just says something like “insert rounds till mag is full” or whatever. The one thing you don’t already know, they blow off entirely.


44 posted on 10/17/2010 9:59:36 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Hardastarboard
This from a guy who had to call me and have me talk him thro
putting the top cover back on an AK?*

*Insert front first, hold down firmly, smack on top like
drunken Cossack peasant.

45 posted on 10/17/2010 10:59:12 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: CrazyIvan

Did you leave out the prior step?... ‘Slug down shot of Peasant Vodka.’


46 posted on 10/17/2010 11:09:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
OOPS! Sorry, comrade.
47 posted on 10/17/2010 11:18:20 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: Captain Ray
This from a guy who had to call me and have me talk him through putting the top cover back on an AK?*

*Insert front first, hold down firmly, smack on top like drunken Cossack peasant.

Did you leave out the prior step?... ‘Slug down shot of Peasant Vodka.’


Hey Ray, doesn't this remind you of a thread on another board? Something about getting drunk and polishing all the finish off of a XD-9?

I've owned this little shooter for several years.. but hadn't taken it out of the safe for a long time.. Just had the thought that I would put it in my grizzly man hands and take it apart and put it back together for no good reason.

"Grizzly Man Hands" ROFL! You have soft delicate sweeper operator hands that haven't seen hard work in years. Not to mention...small hands = small *%&*.


48 posted on 10/19/2010 5:40:57 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback

first of all.. I wasnt that drunk.. and that XD-9 was begging to have the bluing polished off! And after I had the slide dura-coated it really did look good!

Second, My woman says my “hands” are just right!

Raymond


49 posted on 10/19/2010 7:23:00 PM PDT by Captain Ray
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To: Captain Ray

How would she know? She’s as pure as the wind driven snow...


50 posted on 10/19/2010 7:31:44 PM PDT by Tailback
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