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President Palin [He's not happy about it]
No Cure for That ^ | November 19, 2010 | Davis Fleetwood

Posted on 12/05/2010 5:32:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Two week ago, when John Heilemann wrote a cover story for New York Magazine outlining the perfect storm that could carry Sarah Palin to a Presidential election victory in 2012, I would have told you that Sarah was much more powerful as a king-maker and not a King.

And then she went and bragged to Barbara Walters that she can beat Obama in 2012 this.

Hah ha. Funny. In an Armageddon kind of way right? We can’t be that stupid, can we? Well… in the immortal slogan of an era long ago: yes we can!

So I decided to re-read Hielman’s article to see if his logic held water. I think I can summarize the article in this way. 1: Palin is doing all of the little behind the scenes things you do to lay the groundwork for a run. 2: The only other major GOP contender is Mitt Romney, who both fails to inspire and has the albatross of having served as Gov of Massachusetts when that state passed a healthcare plan that looks a lot like the plan that has all of the Randian Regressives calling Obama a socialist. B: The White House is eating this up, thinking that Palin is so polarizing that she could not possibly win, but mother*****n thirdly; NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg will launch a credible, Ross Perot style independent campaign. And in these polarizing times, with populist fervor on both the left and the right and the economy showing no signs of improving, it is a crap shoot with the odds on favorite in this scenario being Palin.

“She’s a supernova,” says former Bush advisor Mark McKinnon. “The only parallel is Barack Obama. And look what happened to him.”

In this scenario, those who interpret the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012 as a portent of the end of time may well be right. Because the nuclear codes will then fall into the lap of a woman who thinks the earth is only 6 thousand years old and that our illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan are Gods wars, that “God” is on our side.

Now, I know that my views, and how I present them, often earn me the scorn of those who would label me an elitist liberal snob.

You know why I am snob? Why I am elitist? Because liberals – or progressives are right. You are wrong. End of story.

When conservative forces in the south were arguing for separate but equal facilities for blacks during the civil rights struggle, does any version of history look back and exonerate the apes that held onto the conservative position? No!

Twenty years from now, when you are trying to explain to children why there was so much debate over Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and Gay Marriage, whose side will you be on? The Fred Phelps hate mongers and Military macho dick wavers who want to keep gays in the closet?

No. Twenty years from now, you will look back at this time and think, what was the problem? Why were we dragging our knuckles like apes?

Sarah Palin is a regressive with a growing army of grown men in Halloween Colonial Garb or crucifix clutchers or Ayn Rand disciples who will, if given the full reigns of this country, send us back to the Stone Age. Palin and her followers will disagree, of course, on the grounds that since archeologists place the Stone Age about 700,00 years ago and therefore 694 thousand years before their world began, that my conclusions are irrational and mathematically impossible.

But a serious run from the barracuda seems more and more plausible. What do you think- two years out; whom do you see winning the Presidential election in 2012?


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"You know why I am snob? Why I am elitist? Because liberals – or progressives are right. You are wrong. End of story. "

Enjoy that 9.8% unemployment, genius.

21 posted on 12/05/2010 5:56:47 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“What do you think- two years out; whom do you see winning the Presidential election in 2012?”

Palin, hands down.


22 posted on 12/05/2010 5:56:49 PM PST by Gator113 (Sarah Palin can win, and she will win.)
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To: humblegunner

THat was from a fake blog that had a bunch of made up things that were supposed to be things that Sarah Palin said. She never said that or anything like it.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_Sarah_Palin_believe_that_dinosaurs_were_alive_4000_years_ago


23 posted on 12/05/2010 6:01:03 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: humblegunner
That she thinks the earth is 6,000 years old?

Is that true, is that her belief?

Because, although I refuse to cheer-lead for her, I would certainly vote for her should she run & be nominated.

Unless she believes that load of bunk. That would make her a nutcase.

See how easy it is for the left to instill doubt?

One little lie tucked in an obscure article...

I know liberals who say this about any Christian...it's just another form of bigotry.

I've had it said about me. They love to mock people of faith with this canard, it really amuses them. (Pictures of Jesus riding Dinosaurs and stuff.)

This writer is intellectually vapid and couldn't think his way out of a paper bag...

24 posted on 12/05/2010 6:04:04 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: humblegunner
If you are a Christian who believes in the Holy Bible, (you know, like Obama says he does), than you have to believe the Earth is only 6,000 Years Old. Sarah Palin is a Christian, therefore...

Do the math, or the Liberal thought process, to come to the Author's conclusions about Palin’s belief system.

Obviously, even though a Liberal claims to be a Christian, he does not really believe in its Biblical teachings. Sarah Palin is the obvious exception to the Liberal “Approved” Christian rule because she lives her life ruled by her beliefs.

It's kind of like the Kennedy's and the Pelosi’s of the world, Catholics all, being the ultimate protectors of Abortion Rights from Inception to the moment of Birth. In Obama’s case, he isn't quite sure that “birth” ends the practice of Abortion.

25 posted on 12/05/2010 6:08:09 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Because the nuclear codes will then fall into the lap of a woman who thinks the earth is only 6 thousand years old...

I remember that this is exactly, almost word for word, what they said about Reagan.

26 posted on 12/05/2010 6:08:54 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Celtic Cross

>>Why is it that they can crudely ridicule our heart-felt beliefs with such alacrity, in the public eye, without eliciting any kind of censure?<<

Because few will look the baby-murdering, drug-addled, America-hating, Mohammedan-loving pedophiles in the eye and say it straight out. Ann Coulter does; Michele Malkin does it with a velvet glove and Governor Palin is learning how with a scapel.

Where are the men? Too busy at the coctail party with their “good friends across the aisle”.


27 posted on 12/05/2010 6:13:54 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: humblegunner
OTOH, I found this -

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs. Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska.

I hope it turns out Munger can be discredited for everyone's sake.

FWIW, she is a member of the Assembly of God church in Wasilla.

28 posted on 12/05/2010 6:18:43 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not in love with Palin, as most FReepers appear to be, and I tend to be somewhat more moderate and practical politically than most here, but it will be a cold day in hell before I ever vote for someone like Bloomberg. From Dem to Rep to Ind, yet always staunchly leftist, the man represents the worst aspects of political s today. Again, I’m no fan of Palin, but if she gets the Rep nomination, I’ll vote for her.


29 posted on 12/05/2010 6:19:59 PM PST by Wolfstar (Welcome to the theater of the absurd, where every registered Republican is a "RINO.")
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To: NTHockey
Where are the men? Too busy at the coctail party with their “good friends across the aisle”.

HERE
30 posted on 12/05/2010 6:23:02 PM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka!)
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To: NTHockey

Well said!


31 posted on 12/05/2010 6:24:44 PM PST by Spudx7
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To: muleskinner

I honestly don’t know when the earth was formed. Neither does anyone else either. None of us were witnesses to it so we can only form theories based on whatever evidence we think is important.

I will say this though: I believe in God, who, by definition can do any damned thing He wants, even put together a universe in six days. Whether He did or not is the ultimate question that we have no answer for.

But I have seen those pictures of human footprints inside those of dinosaurs. Photoshopped? Maybe, but maybe not too.


32 posted on 12/05/2010 6:26:20 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would rather have Sarah Palin as President than the worse than Carter President that we have now. We don’t need a wishy washy kiss a**, who bows to other countries heads of state, & who wants to make the US a third world country. I trust Sarah more than I can throw the rest of the group who think they want to run for President in 2012 such as Huckabee & Gingrich.


33 posted on 12/05/2010 6:30:32 PM PST by jrcats (Sarah Palin's Alaska beats Obama's D.C. Disaster!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Randian Regressives”?

Must be a typo. The author most likely meant “Randy and the Regressives”...an up and coming grunge band from Seattle.


34 posted on 12/05/2010 6:36:40 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: allmendream
"(despite such being patently unconstitutional)"

I didn't know Palin had the position that BOTH should be taught in the public schools.

That concerns me.

Should we also teach the Hindu version?

Religion should be taught at home, at church or at private schools...not the public schools.

35 posted on 12/05/2010 6:59:30 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Mariner

I agree. It is a troublesome position. Religious beliefs should not be taught in science class. Science should be taught in science class.


36 posted on 12/05/2010 7:33:05 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
I agree. It is a troublesome position. Religious beliefs should not be taught in science class. Science should be taught in science class.

It takes far more faith to believe in a creation totally by evolution, than in a creation completed by a Loving God by whatever means he chose.

What you call science, is a theory chock full of holes.
37 posted on 12/05/2010 8:38:57 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

It takes evidence and theory to accept evolution, not faith. Faith is the evidence of things unseen. We can see the evidence for evolution.

Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things unseen.

What I call science is what the rest of the world calls science, and what scientists call science, and it should be what is taught in science class.

Creationism isn’t science. It is a religious belief based on faith, but not evidence.


38 posted on 12/06/2010 4:09:19 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Evolution: The belief something came from nothing without any evidence.

Creation: The belief God is the Creator and supported by historical and scientific fact. And just common sense.


39 posted on 12/06/2010 4:24:39 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep
Please attempt to learn something about what you are discussing.

Evolution is the change in a species over time through natural selection of genetic variation.

Common descent of species is the idea that all living things on Earth share common ancestry and changed through evolution.

Abiogenesis is the idea that life came from non-living material utilizing physical means.

Nothing in evolution says that something came from nothing.

The evidence for the common descent of species and evolutionary change through natural selection of genetic variation fills shelf after shelf in the library.

But maybe you don't “Do” libraries.

40 posted on 12/06/2010 4:30:18 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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