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[Vanity] Stop the Herman Cain for President nonsense
EEE | 17 MAY 2011 | EEE

Posted on 05/16/2011 11:33:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

I'd never thought I'd see the day when conservatives fully embrace affirmative action. The myopic and destructive support for Cain for President is TOTALLY based on the simple fact that he's an articulate black man and self-made businessman, so conservatives can say, "See! See! We're not racists, we love black guys too!" But so was bland boring white guy John Cox, a businessman who ran for President in 2008, also without having zero experience in elective office. So where was the support for him?

Please spare me the inevitable BS about how you'd rather support a businessman (or use the old pick names out of the telephone analogy) than "career politicians." I am not talking about lifelong bureaucrats serving in departments or agencies, I am clearly talking about elective office. Herman Cain has ZIPPO, NADA, ZERO experience in public office and the simple fact of the matter is that in the modern political era, the American people has overwhelmingly looked to state executives (Governors), retired or military Commanders, or Senators who still had some lower-level executive or business experience for President.

Now, if Cain would have won his Senate race in 2004 or at least had been Mayor of Atlanta and then won a Congressional seat and then ran for the Presidency, then this vanity post would be moot and I would be a likely supporter (although his age would have been an issue). I have no problems with Herman Cain, I admire his background, his intelligence, his business acumen, but right now to support him for the Presidency would be a huge mistake.

Number of factors why Cain shouldn't run and he if does, he shouldn't be supported:

AGE: Herman Cain is 65 years old. The GOP has a stable of younger, more dynamic stars on the rise that refutes the narrative that they're not the same-old party of old guys. It's time for a new generation of leaders, and Cain was needed 10 years ago.

POLITICAL EXPERIENCE: No businessman, Congresscritter, and only 2 Senators in the modern era have ever won the White House. It is EXTREMELY (no pun intended) difficult for a businessman off the streets to run for President because the perception is that the American people have always supported someone who at least won elective office first. Herman Cain has never held elective office and that makes him a non-starter.

MEDIA SPOTLIGHT: Look, let's get serious folks. Herman Cain is not photo-genic, and you know what I mean. The liberal media and entertainment industry will reduce him to a caricature and completely ignore the issues, all the while spotlighting the youthfulness of Obama.

Herman Cain is not electable folks. That's not to say he doesn't have a role in the election. He should surely be a spokesman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to inner-city blacks about how destructive liberal policies are, or he should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele. All Cain will do is split the conservative vote and we get another RINO for the GOP nominee.


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1 posted on 05/16/2011 11:33:05 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I regretfully concur with your comments. I, too, like Herman Cain, but his resume for elected office is woefully thin.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 11:36:53 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Persoanlly I like what Cain has to say and if he is the nominee I will support him for that. Who peed on your cornflakes ths morning and why would you ever think anyone’s support was about the way he looks?


3 posted on 05/16/2011 11:37:58 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Every possible Presidential candidate has a thread running with the exact same content as yours. “Insert name here” is not electable!

And where’s the vanity tag?


4 posted on 05/16/2011 11:38:53 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Support and actually voting for him are two different things.


5 posted on 05/16/2011 11:40:00 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: chris_bdba
Who peed on your cornflakes ths morning and why would you ever think anyone’s support was about the way he looks?

I don't eat cornflakes so nobody "peed" on them. I KNOW how the liberal establishment operates when it comes to older conservative blacks. You saw what happened to Clarence Thomas; you don't think the same would be done to Cain?

6 posted on 05/16/2011 11:40:09 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"I'd never thought I'd see the day when conservatives fully embrace affirmative action."

Didn't know that Cain was affirmative action. You care to explain further?

7 posted on 05/16/2011 11:40:15 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yours is not the most thoughtful thread ever posted.


8 posted on 05/16/2011 11:41:44 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You're welcome to borrow my flame suit anytime.
9 posted on 05/16/2011 11:43:44 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Eisenhower had never held elective office. The most important experience a president can have is experience managing a large, recalcitrant bureaucracy. Eisenhower, as had of the Allied Forces, and then as president of Columbia, had that in spades. I won’t claim working for Pepsi or running the Godfather’s chain rises to that level. But it’s experience, nonetheless - certainly far more than The One had.


10 posted on 05/16/2011 11:43:48 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: Ouderkirk

The American people have always supported only a candidate who has won elective office previously?

What about President Eisenhower?

He was before my time, but I wonder if any back then said Ike was unqualified and lacked experience. I would think that anyone who had executive management experience such as Ike, who planned and executed the Normandy invasion, was well qualified to sit in the Oval Office.


11 posted on 05/16/2011 11:46:44 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How insulting.

You think I like Mr. Cain because he’s black?!?!?!? Well, let me inform you that I have a brain & can think for myself. I like what he says on his radio show, and I don’t care if he’s held public office. Frankly, I think career politicians are the problem with this country. He’s been in administrative positions in the private sector. That’s good enough for me.


12 posted on 05/16/2011 11:47:58 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Herman Cain is 65 years old. The GOP has a stable of younger, more dynamic stars ..

This is coming from a guy who supports Ron Paul who is what, 71?

POLITICAL EXPERIENCE: No businessman, Congresscritter, and only 2 Senators in the modern era have ever won the White House...

So we want to keep doing the same thing over and over (getting career politicians) and expect different results?

MEDIA SPOTLIGHT: Look, let's get serious folks. Herman Cain is not photo-genic, and you know what I mean...

See responses 1 & 2.

13 posted on 05/16/2011 11:48:38 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mr. Lucky

EEE posts against *anyone* who is not his personal love, Sarah Palin.

It gets old.


14 posted on 05/16/2011 11:48:46 AM PDT by cizinec
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Agree.


15 posted on 05/16/2011 11:49:25 AM PDT by JPG (The real reason? Huck is deathly afraid of grizzly bears.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sure, we’d rather have someone younger, better looking, but who?

Palin is damaged goods. Who else is there?

Cain is intelligent and capable. Far more so than the moderate establishment morons out there.


16 posted on 05/16/2011 11:49:25 AM PDT by RockinRight (Yes We Cain!)
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To: I Shall Endure
Eisenhower had never held elective office.

I mentioned retired military commanders.

17 posted on 05/16/2011 11:50:04 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: avacado
Didn't know that Cain was affirmative action.

I've seen this charge several times which is a joke. Cain is 65- he went to college before Affirmative Action at a time when it was actually difficult for an African-American to get into college. He also started and ran his own businesses- so did he hire himself based on quotas? Jeeze.. I never took EEE for a racialist but it seems it is verging on that.

18 posted on 05/16/2011 11:50:26 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: cizinec
EEE posts against *anyone* who is not his personal love, Sarah Palin.

I thought EEE was a Paultard.

19 posted on 05/16/2011 11:51:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: chickadee

You are right. We should keep electing the “experienced” candidates. After all it has worked out so well for us....LOL!

I like the fact that he has NOT been in office. It’s a selling point to me. I’m sick of corrupt politicians that talk a good game and do not do jack $hit once in office. It’s time for a change to something else.


20 posted on 05/16/2011 11:52:20 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

At this point in time, Herman Cain is near the top of my preferred candidate list. I could care less if he has not been part of the government. It may even be a positive over others who have been perverted by government.

With so many RINOs and a kook apparently in the running, it is refreshing to me to see a sane experienced professional conservative in the mix.


21 posted on 05/16/2011 11:53:14 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What? Keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a differnt result.


22 posted on 05/16/2011 11:53:17 AM PDT by nomobs (Just do it)
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To: mnehring

17 percent unemployment/underemployment, 14 percent on food stamps, deficits the eye can see, GDP growth less then population growth, inflation of food and fuel, these are not conventional times. Herman Cain has a good chance.


23 posted on 05/16/2011 11:53:21 AM PDT by Fee
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Congressman Allen West

http://west.house.gov/


24 posted on 05/16/2011 11:53:49 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
He should surely be a spokesman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to inner-city blacks about how destructive liberal policies are, or he should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele.

You claim Cain's supporters are looking at race then smugly state he should do race based spokesman work? Hypocrite much? Let's turn the tables on you:

She should surely be a spokeswoman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to working moms about how destructive liberal policies are, or she should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele.

If Palin looked like Madeleine Albright you she wouldn't get one thread a year on FreeRepublic.

25 posted on 05/16/2011 11:54:31 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Right. Forget Cain.


26 posted on 05/16/2011 11:54:42 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: mnehring
This is coming from a guy who supports Ron Paul who is what, 71?

I don't support Paul anymore.

So we want to keep doing the same thing over and over (getting career politicians) and expect different results?

Strawman. I'm looking for someone who has a history of GETTING THINGS DONE - in elective office. Results. You cannot compare business experience with elective office experience, it's not the same level.

27 posted on 05/16/2011 11:55:15 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

SO you’re a Newt supporter huh?


28 posted on 05/16/2011 11:58:14 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I say that Cain, like all the others, is a daisy if he does it. The presidency is there for the one with the intestinal fortitude to TAKE IT. It’s not given. I don’t think Cain has what it takes, but let the man talk. Let them all talk.


29 posted on 05/16/2011 11:58:17 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Herman Cain is not electable folks.

And I'm going to go out on a limb and bet you think Palin is?

30 posted on 05/16/2011 11:58:47 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: mnehring
I've seen this charge several times which is a joke.

I'm not talking about Cain's background. I said support for Cain for President is affirmative action because he has no elective office experience. FReepers are supporting him simply because he's black, period.

The Presidency is the highest office in the land. You've got to have some type of public office experience to run for the job. Like I said, if Cain would have won his Senate seat this conversation would be moot.

31 posted on 05/16/2011 11:58:50 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I’m not dis’ing Herman Cain. I like him.

My point was that support for a person does not necessarily translate into a votes.

I welcome all comers into the race. The more the merrier. Palin, Bachmann, Paul, Gingrich, Trump, Pawlenty, Daniels and anyone else who thinks they would want to run...except Willard Romney, he needs to sit down and STFU.


32 posted on 05/16/2011 11:59:45 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t think Cain can win, but I don’t think he’s worth a vanity post against his candidacy’s getting FR attention.

1. No, I don’t think you are racist or accusing others here of “affirmative action.” (I DO agree that any black candidate enjoys a certain amount of inoculation against charges of racism, but that only goes so far. Just ask Clarence Thomas, right?) I agree that the double standard largely lies with the left, including the MSM.

2. I want people like Cain in the running, for awhile, to skewer business-ignorant politicians — hopefully mostly Dems! — and bring PRIVATE ENTERPRISE as an issue into the forefront. Sort of like how a John Bolton candidacy, although probably weak on economic issues, would help sharpen the focus on foreign and military policy.


33 posted on 05/16/2011 12:00:55 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm looking for someone who has a history of GETTING THINGS DONE - in elective office. Results. You cannot compare business experience with elective office experience, it's not the same level.

Funny, you say it is a strawman to bring up 'keep electing career politicians' yet you then you want someone with history "in elective office". As for business experience, I'll argue it is exactly what we need. Business is accountable to keep their books in order, politicians aren't. Business is accountable to show results. Politicians aren't. Business succeed when they reduce expenses, maximize profits, and turn around successful products. Politicians are exactly opposite. The business model of government is to maximize expenses, have negative profits, and are rewarded when what they are selling fails.

I go back to the definition of insanity because that is exactly what I'm seeing.

I do see your Paultard roots are showing though. Tear down whomever isn't your preferred choice. What I see with most Cain supporters is they would be happy also with a Palin, Bachmann, West or many others and don't tear them down.

34 posted on 05/16/2011 12:02:06 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Are you playing Devils advocate?

Series, this sounds like a trial balloon to see how many Cain supporters are here.

I would love a Cain Palin ticket or visa versa.

35 posted on 05/16/2011 12:02:38 PM PDT by right way right
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Cain fits in with all the sundry names that appear and then disappear in the primary. The GOP is being setup for either another McCain to rise from the dead or a new face who will suddenly emerge singing Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran, raise a pile of money and get acceptance from the press.


36 posted on 05/16/2011 12:02:43 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Cain is the guest of Chris Wallace this coming Sunday on FOX News Sunday. Ron Paul was on this Sunday and made a complete ass of himself. I'll wait and see how Herman does on that show.
37 posted on 05/16/2011 12:03:10 PM PDT by fish hawk (Obama = "low-level socialist organizer". Allen West)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It's time for a new generation of leaders

You mean like Obama? /s

I'm interested in Cain's business perspective but in no way to I think he's objectively electable.

38 posted on 05/16/2011 12:03:11 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Geithner raids pensions to cook U.S. books. Republicans to get blame.)
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To: Sprite518
We should keep electing the “experienced” candidates.

I'm not asking for "experienced" or "career" politicians. I want someone who has at least served in some capacity in elective office, and no one has ever won the WH in the modern era without at least having been elected to a lower-level first. You guys clearly aren't getting it.

I like the fact that he has NOT been in office.

Yeah, and you don't know how he's going to handle the pressure of dealing with Rats and RINOs in Congress since he has no experience of doing so. Bottom line he'll fold like a cheap suit because the Presidency is not like a CEO.

It’s a selling point to me. I’m sick of corrupt politicians that talk a good game and do not do jack $hit once in office. It’s time for a change to something else.

Buddy, you have someone who has taken on corruption and her own party (Palin). All other candidates besides Palin ARE the status-quo.

39 posted on 05/16/2011 12:03:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: chickadee

All of the “experienced” folks are the ones that got us into this mess. They all seem to get there and only then care about getting theirs. With the nation and many states teetering on the precipice of what would be bankruptcy if allowed by law, why not the guy with experience bringing a company back from the same place? I know it was just a pizza chain, but it actually had a bottom line to adhere to, which is more than the govt can stake claim to. I will wait and see the rest of the field, and if Palin gets in I will have a hard choice myself to make, but Cain and Palin are worthy of that deliberation. Mitt and Newt are not.


40 posted on 05/16/2011 12:03:27 PM PDT by ScottinSacto (If anyone will beat Obama, let's not send just anyone.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

RE: I’d never thought I’d see the day when conservatives fully embrace affirmative action. The myopic and destructive support for Cain for President is TOTALLY based on the simple fact that he’s an articulate black man and self-made businessman, so conservatives can say, “See! See! We’re not racists, we love black guys too!”

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Sorry my friend, I disagree with your analysis.

I would support Herman Cain BECAUSE HE BESTS ARTICULATES WHAT I BELIEVE IN. Not only that, compared to Obama, he stands as a person who has actually ACCOMPLISHED something — TURNED AROUND TWO BUSINESSES TO MAKE THEM PROFITABLE.

That’s saying more about his executive abilities than being a community rabble rouser. His color is of NO CONSEQUENCE WHATSOEVER. He could be Yellow, Red, Brown or even Green for all I care.

Look at the current crop of people who have announced their intentions for running — Newt, Ron Paul, Romney, Ric Santorum, Gary Johnson, Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachmann.

Scan the entire lot and look at their backgrounds and the issues they articulate and they policies they have espoused or implemented, do you honestly believe based on their backgrounds, any of them can be better than Herman Cain?

Other than Michelle Bachmann, I can’t see anyone on this list who I can be enthusiastic about.


41 posted on 05/16/2011 12:04:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
FReepers are supporting him simply because he's black, period.

BULL S***!. People are supporting him because he is a successful businessman who isn't afraid to actually fight, PC, political talking points be damned. He is the only candidate of the declared bunch who actually has some balls and speaks a real Conservative message. It is pretty disgusting you are accusing FReepers of being racist.

42 posted on 05/16/2011 12:04:18 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Bottom line he'll fold like a cheap suit because the Presidency is not like a CEO.

Or a governorship, apparently. Give me an example of when Cain folded like a cheap suit and then we'll look at your candidate.

43 posted on 05/16/2011 12:06:19 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: cizinec

Mr. Cain’s background seems perfectly suited leading our country out of its fiscal abyss.


44 posted on 05/16/2011 12:06:19 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I don't know the answer to your question about Ike either. My guess is that it brought up. The thing about Ike though, is that being the ultimate war hero, with a reputation for being a politician in holding the alliance together made him untouchable. If you weren't for Ike you were probably unpatriotic. If that reminds you of the food stamp president, in a grotesque way, it probably should.

Difference: Ike turned out to be a pretty good president. After all, HIS credentials were valid and his skills very applicable to the presidency. Osama doesn't have a clue how to run jack squat, and neither does anyone around him.

If David Petreus were willing to make the penultimate sacrifice and make a run for it, he would probably do very well. He's no Ike, but he's made a reputation for success that Americans would be attracted to. Moreover, he has a nice smile and doesn't look too hardcore, like McChrystal does and he knows how not to put his foot in his mouth.

45 posted on 05/16/2011 12:06:42 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: chickadee

So you like the resumes of Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich better?

Given the performance of much of the GOP, having a thin resume is probably an advantage.


46 posted on 05/16/2011 12:06:49 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I first learned of Herman Cain when he subbed for Neal Boortz on the radio (no visuals there); his ideas and his ability to answer questions about economics and finances so that normal people could understand was what impressed me.

I’ll be listening to him and to anyone else aside from Gingrich, Paul and Romney.


47 posted on 05/16/2011 12:06:57 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm looking for someone who has a history of GETTING THINGS DONE - in elective office.

You mean like the ones that have sold our kids and their kids future?

No thanks.

It's time for someone who knows HOW to run a business to run the US ECONOMY like a business, instead of using it for a personal piggy bank.

48 posted on 05/16/2011 12:11:25 PM PDT by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The liberal media and entertainment industry will reduce him to a caricature and completely ignore the issues, all the while spotlighting the youthfulness of Obama.

Oh you can bank on that without a doubt! I agree with your statements pretty much.

Though Cain surely is a patriotI cannot see him as President in the eyes of the general public overall. He will not get the youth vote, which is essential, though too many think not. Barry has them rising up already "are you In" cmpaign currently in fast mode, and he appeals to their naivety and lack of life experience, let along they've been so indoctrinated in the progressive movement they cannot reason with their own minds. But Cain will not get them...nor the Latino voters who are in Obamas court currently.

I also agree with those stating he is just not ready for the position...managing and running pizza palors is not enough to step into the waters of Washington, let alone the International trade an means of.

49 posted on 05/16/2011 12:12:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: mnehring
Funny, you say it is a strawman to bring up 'keep electing career politicians' yet you then you want someone with history "in elective office".

I made the distinction between career politicians and someone who has served in some capacity in elective office up thread. It's up to you to figure it out.

As for business experience, I'll argue it is exactly what we need. Business is accountable to keep their books in order, politicians aren't. Business is accountable to show results. Politicians aren't. Business succeed when they reduce expenses, maximize profits, and turn around successful products. Politicians are exactly opposite. The business model of government is to maximize expenses, have negative profits, and are rewarded when what they are selling fails.

All true to some degree. But businesses only affect a certain group of people. Politicians answer to everyone. A guy like Cain cannot sell limited government and less spending to Congress & the people than say a Sarah Palin. He'll get eaten alive by the Democrats and liberal media and will be forced to compromise.

I go back to the definition of insanity because that is exactly what I'm seeing.

Well, let's just run anyone off the street for Presidency. My post also applies to Donald Trump as well. People don't support businessmen for President without having served in public office first. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

I do see your Paultard roots are showing though. Tear down whomever isn't your preferred choice. What I see with most Cain supporters is they would be happy also with a Palin, Bachmann, West or many others and don't tear them down.

Not tearing down anyone. I'm just stating that Cain will split the conservative vote and we get a RINO for the nominee.

50 posted on 05/16/2011 12:13:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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