If Palin wins the Republican primary then Hurrah! for our team. If she goes third party without even fighting for the Republican primary then she is Ross Perot. If she loses the primary then goes third party she is Lisa Murkowski.
Posted on 06/19/2011 7:01:27 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
Here is the why Romney will be the republican nominee and why Perry or Cain or Bachmann will not save the republicans. Romney is moving left on global warming and staying the course on Romneycare and you will see him take his natural left positions on other issues as the campaign gets underway. His goal is to attract as many democrat voters into the republican open primaries as possible to vote for him. Meanwhile , Bachmann has been brought into the race by the establishment as well as Cain who has no idea. Perry is coming in too. This is to split the Tea Party and conservative vote allowing Romney to win with whatever republican votes he gets plus the democrat crossovers as the democrats will not have a primary race with Obama running unopposed.
I believe Sarah Palin knows this. I think Palin also believes the republican party is worthless. Like us , she has watched them sell out once they got the House back as the current leadership is from the same group of republicans who passed big government and huge deficits under Bush and voted for TARP and bailouts. Boehner and Cantor was there for it all. Just the other night Palin said she was watching and hoping she didn't have to go rogue on them.
The big debate has been , is Palin running? She seems to be and at the same time , doesn't seem to be. I think she is running for President but not for the republican nomination. I think she will send shock waves through the political establishment when she does announce that she is running as an Independant , going rogue. That is why she is in no hurry to announce and can wait pass the filing deadlines for republican primaries. Organizing4Palin is in 50 states , she has enough people to get on the ballot in all 50 states. The bus tours , the movie Undefeated is part of a general election strategy instead of a republican primary strategy. Her famous speech in Wisconsin was as much against republicans as it was against democrats.
Please don't bombart this thread with , no third party posts and how it will hand Obama another term. That is just plain false. Obama has sunk so low that his campaign is hopeless. Imagine the state of the race if Romney is the nominee. If you think people sat out because of McCain , you have not seen anything yet. The middle between Obama and Romney will be wide open and a conservative candidate could beat them both easily. Perot lead Clinton and Bush in 92 before he dropped out and got back in again.
I dont think I can buy that idea but I give you credit for laying out your thoughts on this in detail. If Romney got the nomination I wish she would do this.
And your point is?????
What most FReepers still captive to the Republican delusion don't understand is that the GOP nomination is worthless to Sarah Palin.
The defeated Romneyites, Pawlenty, Huckabee and Huntsman will endorse Obama (or Hillary), and the "Palin as Goldwater" strategy will succeed.
After Bachmann endorses Romney, this will be even more clear. It is ESSENTIAL for Sarah to run against Romney AND Obama, or Romney AND Hillary.
Running alone against Obama, with the defeated RINOs lukewarm or, worse, in opposition, won't work. Romney, and many others, will be validating Plouffe and Axelrod's main campaign themes for the MSM, either behind the scenes or outright (she's crazy, too stupid, etc, etc).Sarah's political people need to be very patient, to wait until the election crystallizes as "them against them", until "none of the above" is over 40% or 50% in the polls, and THEN (and only then) can the embryo campaign now being put together uncloak.
What an exciting time!
Even if it's true, so what?
Obama=Romney=Huntsman=Pawlenty=Huckabee.
The inner party is fighting for it's life. If we can't elect an American nationalist and true believer as President, restoring the Republic will need to move on to other means, anyway.
Maybe Sarah running against Obama and Romney will win. Maybe she will lose.
But whether Romney is the GOP nominee, or Obama's VP, or something in between, Sarah still has to beat them both. Denying Romney the GOP nomination won't solve the problem.
It is not a given that Iowa will go for Obama. With a strong Republican at the top of the ticket, we are very likely to vote for the Republican. We had a huge Nov. last year.
A Romney loss would also thoroughly discredit the Northeastern/Beltway establishment with the rank and file which is already disaffected with the establishment GOP.
The tea party (and Palin)could well emerge from a Romney loss as the successor to a devastated GOP.
If Palin wins the Republican primary then Hurrah! for our team. If she goes third party without even fighting for the Republican primary then she is Ross Perot. If she loses the primary then goes third party she is Lisa Murkowski.
There is another theory floating around these threads that Palin will endorse Rick Perry when she announces she will not be a candidate for 2012, assuming he is a candidate. That one obviously contradicts your idea.
You may be right, I don’t know but I’m not going to surrender.
Exactly
To vote for Obama is to spit on Christ
Most significantly, a Palin victory is highly likely.
But even if things turned out otherwise, Sarah Palin is not—based on what we know of her and on her life in general—the kind of individual who would stand in the way of a Palin-led American victory by worrying and fretting about some imagined “mark of a loser.”
This kind of shallow-minded image crafting is only used by rinos, progressives and other narcissists as they scheme for their personal advancement.
You are correct.
A run brings her nothing, with the possibility of major losses. Why run?
Here you miss the entire backdrop.
Murkowski acts on a need for personal gain. Palin acts on principle.
There is a vast difference between the two. Palin can never be Murkowski.
Understanding the difference between them, based the reason given above, defines one’s competence to fill out the voting ballot.
I'm sorry, but she would lose the general badly, however, because of the media-generated attacks that still linger over her.
Remember, we do not elect the president. Neither does DU. Middle America does, especially the women, and women who break late (critical in any Presidential election) usually vote AGAINST the female candidate.
All we conservatives have to do, is beat you guys in the primary.
What you really mean is, "All we hyper-conservatives have to do is beat the mainline, Ronald Reagan conservatives.
That would be a disaster, again.
Winning the general is everything. Nominating a candidate who cannot win the general is idiocy.
Has not Tea Party favorites Sharon Angle and the O'Donnel loon from Maryland ("I am not a witch") been nominated, Harry Reid would be gone and we would have another seat in the HOR.
Remember, Dem's want us to nominate the far-far-right, so they can be defeated in the General!
Slice of Raw onion, Amazing what that will do.
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