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Are African Americans Part of Pat Buchananís America? (Meh!)
WAMU-FM's DCentric: Race. Class. The District ^ | October 27, 2011 | Elahe Izadi

Posted on 10/27/2011 2:33:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Earlier this week, we asked conservative commentator Pat Buchanan how he proposes eliminating D.C.’s economic racial disparities. Buchanan, who firmly believes diversity hurts America, suggested stopping immigration to combat high national black unemployment, and general national unemployment. “We’ve got to start putting our own people first,” he said.

The Root’s Nsenga Burton takes issue with Buchanan’s rhetoric:

“Our own people?” Since when did blacks become “our own people” to folks like Buchanan? Invoking the Willie Lynch strategy of dividing and conquering those who would benefit from coming together (African-Americans and immigrants) as opposed to functioning separately is foul. Buchanan and his cronies who try to pretend that they give a damn about black folks, need to stop the shenanigans. This is not a plantation lullaby — this is real-life. Pretending that immigrants are having a greater impact on black unemployment as opposed to the perpetuation of racist ideology that works in tandem with dominant power structures invested in the continued oppression of marginalized groups, is disingenuous… Pat Buchanan needs to go back to the drawing board because pretending that he thinks of black people as part of his version of America is downright insulting.

Buchanan, known for controversial remarks, has once again come under heat; black political advocacy group Color Of Change is petitioning MSNBC to fire Buchanan as an analyst for what they deem as his “white supremacist ideology.” He has said that blacks and whites in his hometown D.C. were more united under segregation than they are now. “America has been the best country on earth for black folks,” Buchanan wrote in 2008. “It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.”


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: blacks; immigration; patbuchanan; unemployment
Don't argue the facts, just call him a white supremacist. When will this "all conservatives are racists" nonsense stop?
1 posted on 10/27/2011 2:33:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Pat, do you have a problem with that?


2 posted on 10/27/2011 2:44:17 PM PDT by brivette
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Pat, do you have a problem with that?


3 posted on 10/27/2011 2:44:28 PM PDT by brivette
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Pat, do you have a problem with that?


4 posted on 10/27/2011 2:44:37 PM PDT by brivette
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Pat, do you have a problem with that?


5 posted on 10/27/2011 2:44:46 PM PDT by brivette
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FACTS!

Mitochondrial Eve is estimated to have lived around 200,000 years ago,[2] most likely in East Africa,[3] when Homo sapiens sapiens ("anatomically modern humans") were developing as a population distinct from other human sub-species. Mitochondrial Eve lived much earlier than the out of Africa migration that is thought to have occurred between 95,000 to 45,000 BP.[4] The dating for 'Eve' was a blow to the multiregional hypothesis, and a boost to the hypothesis that modern humans originated relatively recently in Africa and spread from there, replacing more "archaic" human populations such as Neanderthals. As a result, the latter hypothesis is now the dominant one.

Given the migration we are all African somethings, African Italian, African Chinese, African African, African Indians! Skin color is an environmental adaptation. Eskimos are white. Nigerians are dark brown. There are white africans who are albinos and they are chastised by the other equitorial natives because of the non skin color!!

Since I learned this fact I fill out the question on the census form

What race are you? I answer HUMAN. Case closed.

6 posted on 10/27/2011 2:51:13 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pat Buchanan is not a white supremacist. He is believer in the traditional American culture. This culture was largely derived from the European Enlightenment, but has been, of course, influenced by all the people who have immigrated here and have adopted that common culture as their own. These people have enriched our common culture with other influences that may have developed outside our dominant culture but are in accord with its general precepts. Buchanan bemoans the attack on our traditional culture and attributes it weakened status to unrestricted immigration and academia’s penchant for cultural relativism and its insane attachment to “diversity”. He argues that our common traditional culture is superior to any other existing culture. On that point, I agree with him completely.


7 posted on 10/27/2011 2:52:13 PM PDT by 3Fingas
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“America has been the best country on earth for black folks,”

Hard to disagree. Compare average standard of living for black Americans versus any sub-Saharan African country. Not even close.

8 posted on 10/27/2011 2:57:58 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Buchanan ... suggested stopping immigration to combat high national black unemployment”

But what would happen to the Democratic party?


9 posted on 10/27/2011 3:26:00 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know what? I was sympathetic to the disproportionate effect of illegal immigration and the engineered economic crisis on black Americans, but this fool just talked me out it. From now on, if anyone complains that black unemployment is so much higher than the rest of the country, I’m just going to respond: “Tough teats, sayeth John Keats!”


10 posted on 10/27/2011 3:51:37 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy assumes that “racial disparities” can be eliminated. The federal government has lavished enormous amounts of taxpayer money on DC public schools.

Did the “racial disparities” go away? Is there one school district in all of America that has succeeded in making the “racial disparities” go away after over a hundred years of trying in the Northern states?

Did welfare make the racial disparities go away? What about the EBT card?

Hey, what about the racial disparities in crime? Did they go away?


11 posted on 10/27/2011 4:45:13 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LMAO ... so Media Matters, “Color of Change,” the SPLC, Van Jones are calling Buchanan a racist.

I saw this in the New York Times this morning:

“Beyond issues, many African-Americans feel an emotional connection to Mr. Obama that seems unshakable, saying that nothing can compare with seeing someone who looks like them in the White House.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/us/politics/obamas-support-among-blacks-remains-strong.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp

I also read this on NBC:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/blogs/prop-zero/Race-Obamas-California-Base-in-2012-132559943.html

“President Barack Obama may be slipping in the polls elsewhere, but the changing complexion of California’s population is likely to serve him well in 2012 election.

The reason has to do with race.”

Buchanan just wants “someone who looks like him” in the White House ... you know, like the 95 percent of blacks that voted for Obama because he is black.


12 posted on 10/27/2011 4:48:55 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American Blacks will be impoverished as long as they continue buying into agitprop like this.


13 posted on 10/27/2011 9:03:50 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; Daffynition

14 posted on 10/27/2011 11:20:55 PM PDT by Shalmaneser
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The primary losers to immigrants are native blacks. This has been true for 160 years.


15 posted on 10/31/2011 7:04:31 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Great tagline, though I wish you’d cite the author, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, now Turkey’s prime minister.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 9:25:06 PM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: rmlew

Great tagline, though I wish you’d cite the author, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, now Turkey’s prime minister.


17 posted on 11/02/2011 9:27:06 PM PDT by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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Great tagline, though I wish you’d cite the author, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, now Turkey’s prime minister.
Ran out of space. The intellectually curious will look it up. The incurious wouldn't be impressed if if did have room for the citation.
18 posted on 11/02/2011 11:06:09 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe Pat just doesn't like stupid crap like Kwanzaa. Everyone who thinks the whole race issue that pits blacks against whites is total BS doesn't think so because they don't like black folks. In fact, the guys I knew in college who were big radicals in the “black power” movement hate the way crap has gone more than Pat does and would probably deal with social collapse among black folk more harshly than Pat would if they were given the chance.

They wanted the black middle class LBJ bulldozed into oblivion back along with viable black sections of town as they existed prior to “urban renewal”, not some kind of special leg up as if they were too stupid to make it on their own. Think about it, there were black movie stars that drew crowds right up into the mid-sixties in the black theaters that were owned by black business men and surrounded by other businesses owned by black folk. How many of those old flicks have you ever seen even on BET or some other "black" entertainment venue?

A great many people these days, probably the majority, doesn't know it, but at one time there was powerful moral, conservative, leadership within the black community from the very middle class Christian folks that were bankrupted and/or put out of business by the “Great Society” razing entire commercial districts to the ground. Anyone who actually analyzes those programs and how they were implemented soon realizes that they were carefully designed to take power away from conservative black folks and pass out democrat dependency along with government payroll checks.

Not only did the "Great Society" bulldoze those businesses, it drove a "cultural" agenda that replaced the history of the black middle class and entire black communities with democrat propaganda. When they integrated the schools, was it the seventy-five year old school that the black community had revolved around for generations that was replaced with a big, new, integrated school, or did the new school keep the name of some twenty-five year old school named for a good local democrat politician?

Basically, there's a hell of a lot of difference between hating what now passes for the, "black commoonity", and hating black folks and I'm pretty sure it's the "commonity" that Pat can't stand, not black folks.

JMHO

Regards

19 posted on 11/04/2011 10:23:36 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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