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Douglas Kennedy, son of the late Robert F. Kennedy, charged with hospital assault
Media Spy ^ | 2-26-2012 | Tim Blight

Posted on 02/26/2012 8:50:05 AM PST by smoothsailing

Fox News reporter charged with hospital assault

Tim Blight

February 26, 2012

Douglas Kennedy, Fox News correspondent and son of the late Robert F. Kennedy, has been charged with assault after a 7 January incident in a New York hospital.

2 nurses at the Mt Kisco hospital alleged that Kennedy became violent after they tried to prevent him from taking his newborn son Bo outside of the ward. Kennedy says he wanted to "get some fresh air" and had already received permission from other nurses on duty, Reuters reports.

The confrontation began after nurses issued a "code pink", an alert that someone is attempting to abduct a baby. The incident was partially caught on surveillance camera; although obscured by a doorway, nurse Cari Luciano can be seen falling to the ground.

Luciano stated that Kennedy "raised his right foot and with tremendous force kicked [her] in the pelvis area". Another nurse, Anna Lane, accused the New York-based journalist of twisting her arm, although this appears off screen on the surveillance video.

Kennedy has been charged with harassment and endangering the welfare of a child.

Kennedy and his wife have labeled accusations "absurd" in an interview with NBC New York. His lawyer, Robert Gottlieb, called the altercation the result of "aggressive and grossly inappropriate behavior by two nurses".

"Whatever Douglas did came about only because the nurse was lunging to grab his child from his arms. What Douglas did was simply to protect his baby," he added.

A date for the hearing has not yet been announced.


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To: wintertime

You are right.
Also, if this baby was 3 days old,( and not discharged yet) there might have been a medical reason why the baby needed to stay on the floor.
Mother appears to be old, so it was a high risk pregnancy. The baby may have had medical issues post birth.
None of that is going to be revealed until the trial due to privacy laws ( HIPPA).


51 posted on 02/26/2012 10:45:02 AM PST by kaila
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To: bigfootbob

She looks older than he does.


52 posted on 02/26/2012 10:45:44 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: smoothsailing

Yup and Joe Kennedy D-Mass. from that pic is the dad
of JoeJoeJoeKennedy, the 31 yr old running for Barney
Frank’s seat.

“DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?”


53 posted on 02/26/2012 10:46:12 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

The unidentified person with red hair in the pic may be JoeJoeJoe. He would have been about 18 or so.


54 posted on 02/26/2012 10:47:43 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: mkjessup
This was not a kidnapping situation and you know it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really?....Just because he is a famous “ Boy Kennedy” a nurse is supposed to know that there are no marital, pending divorce issues, or child custody issues going on? When did they start handing out crystal balls or mind reading machines with R.N. degrees?

Really? They are just to take the word of a doctor that they might not even met or seen before and the word of a friend from **that** dysfunctional family? Do the nurses know for certain that this man is a doctor?

And...Honestly, I can't imagine an ethical doctor asking a nurse to risk her job, risk his own professional reputation, and break such and important kidnapping standard just for something as **trivial*** as a stroll outside. ( That doesn't make sense to me either in this story.) If the doctor were a real friend to this spoiled brat, he would have explained this to the “Kennedy-boy” and advised him to wait for a safe discharge from the hospital before strolling about with his infant.

It is **exactly** for reasons like this, above, that protocols are in place for the protection of the infant, and it would be very unusual for mothers and fathers not to be well informed of these rational hospital protocols well before admission.

55 posted on 02/26/2012 10:51:58 AM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime

As a nurse, I have seen many screwed up social situations.
That is why hospital policies are in place.
For example: What if this Kennedy creep beat up his wife( birth mother) at home? The mother confides to the nurse that she is going to leave her husband upon discharge from the hospital. Now, the husband is leaving the floor with the baby.
There is a reason why these procedures are in place, because hospitals see extreme, horrible home situations all the time. Daily.


56 posted on 02/26/2012 11:00:14 AM PST by kaila
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To: kaila

Good post. The problem here is most posters have no understanding how a maternity ward is run these days.

If Kennedy wanted to be able to walk outside for a smoke and take his baby with him he and his wife should have had the baby at home with a midwife. Once inside that maternity ward they must sign papers saying they agree with hospital policy and procedures.

Kicking a nurse rather than asking for a supervisor indicates that Kennedy is immature and unable to problem solve effectively. The nurse was most likely in some kind of uniform. Asking for her supervisor seems more appropriate than ignoring her requests to stop and kicking her in the pelvis. I hope she sues the living daylights out of him.

I suspect Kennedy has had some practice kicking women in the pelvis. It used to be widely rumored that the boys have been known to push their ‘girlfriends’ down the stairs - that’s in addition to stories about rufis -


57 posted on 02/26/2012 11:00:28 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

I agree. A lot of nurses are small people on a power trip. Much like stewardesses, TSA thugs, and the entire public school system.


58 posted on 02/26/2012 11:01:00 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: stinkerpot65

Then that means you are okay with beating up women with whom you have a disagreement.
It does not matter if they are on a power trip, the issue is whether assault was the correct means to end the dispute.
As a nurse, I do not want to be assaulted in enforcing hopital policy.
I hope he goes to jail.


59 posted on 02/26/2012 11:07:00 AM PST by kaila
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To: GraceG

Fox News refers to him as a reporter in his bio and lists him on their website under the category “Anchors and Reporters”, a subset of “On Air Personalities”.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/#s=h-l


60 posted on 02/26/2012 11:07:23 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: kalee

She’s 41, he’s 44. Boru is their fourth child, the first three are girls.


61 posted on 02/26/2012 11:15:43 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Ernie Kaputnik
I’m on Mr. Kennedy’s side on this.

I agree with you. This seems to be another case of an institution elevating its own internal policy to the level of law whereas the legality of custody is the only determining factor.

62 posted on 02/26/2012 11:17:00 AM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: Brass Lamp

That means you approve of assault on women.
You approve of women beaters.


63 posted on 02/26/2012 11:18:21 AM PST by kaila
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To: smoothsailing

kennedy should have waited when they told him no he has to wait. Kennedy’s don’t like taking no for an answer. Then he acted like an animal and used violence against a weak woman while holding a tiny infant, just because he didn’t want to wait. Was the fresh air going to disappear? hospitals have strict rules thanks to lawyers. They must follow to the letter or face big $$$$ losses, if something were to happen. If something happened on their watch, you bet Kennedy would be calling his ambulance chasing pals so fast it would make your head spin. Him and his lawyer would point the finger at the staff for their “negligence” for letting him stroll out the hospital and “breaking protocol” you betcha.


64 posted on 02/26/2012 11:19:07 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: ladyjane

Absolutely I agree with you and poster Kaila.

you are right on the money. The hospital has rules. Douglas was irrational for reacting with violence over a silly unimportant stroll. It’s an immature reation or someone who is unstable.


65 posted on 02/26/2012 11:29:01 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: raccoonradio

That will be an interesting race. Republican Sean Bielat, the Marine who gave Frank a run for his money in 2010, is running again.


66 posted on 02/26/2012 11:31:58 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: AtlasStalled

‘Under what legal authority did the nurse have to impede the father?’

The Catholic hospital at which my son was born two yrs ago told us that only the father or mother could take our son out of the glassed encased care unit, out of the merternity unit or out of the hospital. No exceptions.


67 posted on 02/26/2012 11:34:12 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: duckman

Greg Kelly doesn’t work for Fox anymore but is on the local Fox channel in NYC.He had a woman charge him with assault but they prosecutor dropped the case for no evidence.


68 posted on 02/26/2012 11:38:38 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: wintertime

Our local maternity ward has a buzz in system and all the babies were bands that have the same chip they use for shop lifting that makes the alarm sound if one f taken from the area without the tags being deactivated.They put this system in years ago when they realized the hospital is about 5 minutes from I-70.


69 posted on 02/26/2012 11:42:46 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: wintertime

Our local maternity ward has a buzz in system and all the babies wear bands that have the same chip they use for shop lifting that makes the alarm sound if one f taken from the area without the tags being deactivated.They put this system in years ago when they realized the hospital is about 5 minutes from I-70.


70 posted on 02/26/2012 11:43:09 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

Exactly!


71 posted on 02/26/2012 11:45:52 AM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: smoothsailing

When this spoiled brat, Kennedy, was arrested, I wonder if they did any testing to see if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. ( Just wondering.)


72 posted on 02/26/2012 11:48:26 AM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: duckman

Shep ran over a woman trying to keep a parking space.


73 posted on 02/26/2012 12:00:58 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: Brass Lamp
My thoughts exactly.

While I understand the necessity of establishing policies to ensure the safety of newborns, hospitals and government have evolved into idiotic and fascist bureaucracies that believe they “own” the children, and the parents are only granted “custody” if and when the state determines they are suitable parents. Orwellian in thought and deed.

Good for Mr. Kennedy. Too bad, so sad for the fascist Nazi nurses that he beat down.

That's my take on it and I'm sticking to it.

EK

74 posted on 02/26/2012 12:03:45 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Ernie Kaputnik; wintertime; All
Way to go, MK!
Believe you hit ‘em so hard, they’ll still be choking on their brand muffins tomorrow morning. Man, that’s gonna leave a mark.
Shock and Awe: They’re shocked and your post was awesome.


Well I appreciate the kind words Ernie, and I'm going to condense this post into an answer to Wintertime's posts #46 and #55 and just say that it is clear that some posters in this thread are automatically assuming that Douglas Kennedy was in the WRONG, why?

Because of his name. Now as I've already stated, I take a backseat to NObody in loathing the Kennedys, especially the dead Fat Teddy, however my opinion on the Kennedys or Douglas Kennedy is irrelevant to the issue under discussion.

We have: the father of a newborn infant who claims to have obtained permission to take his son for a walk. It will be soon be determined whether or not this is true. As with ANY American accused of wrongdoing, they are presumed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

From another account of this incident, I find this highly interesting:

"An emergency room doctor who was visiting Kennedy and saw what happened, defended his boyhood friend in a statement that reads: 'I can state unequivocally that the nurses were the only aggressors. To charge Mr. Kennedy with a crime is simply incomprehensible.'"

...and:

"The nurses told police the baby's head was "shaking violently from side to side." ... Kennedy's lawyer denies that, adding the baby slept through the whole thing. Attorneys for both sides agree that the baby was not injured."

Now for the money shot:

"It's unclear whether the nurses will sue Kennedy civilly. However, a few weeks ago, they sent Kennedy a letter suggesting that he might want to hire a lawyer."

(from www.necn.com)

Sounds to me like two nurses with more testosterone in their veins than estrogen are gearing up for what they think might be a BIG pay day. IF they were assaulted and injured as they claim, Douglas Kennedy would not have been walking around free as a bird for 7 weeks while the D.A. got around to filing MISDEMEANOR charges against Kennedy.

I reiterate: I don't like the Kennedys, but this looks like two thug-nurses deciding to throw their weight around, and naturally there is an FR lynch mob eager to back them to the hilt.
75 posted on 02/26/2012 12:05:30 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: wintertime
When this spoiled brat, Kennedy, was arrested, I wonder if they did any testing to see if he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol. ( Just wondering.)

Why bother? He's already been convicted in the Wintertime Circuit Court. Now take him out and hang him from a tree, right?
76 posted on 02/26/2012 12:08:00 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: wintertime

The incident took place on January 7th. Kennedy wasn’t arrested until February 23rd. Unless he appeared intoxicated at the time of the arrest, there would have been no reason for testing.


77 posted on 02/26/2012 12:08:32 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

In other words, incident took place on January 7th.

They got around to arresting him this past Thursday.

That doesn’t sound like it reaches the level of ‘wild drunken/doper on a rampage in a hospital’ event.


78 posted on 02/26/2012 12:11:24 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: smoothsailing

I can hear it now: “Don’t you know who I AM???”


79 posted on 02/26/2012 12:17:55 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: mkjessup

Excellent summation, FRiend. I couldn’t have said it better, and I concur with you entirely. (I, too, hate Fat Dead Ted Kennedy, but that ain’t the point here.)


80 posted on 02/26/2012 12:17:55 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: mkjessup

Being an American carries serious risks and ever present dangers, not the least being that Kennedys continue to walk freely among us, and may strike at any moment! :)


81 posted on 02/26/2012 12:18:10 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

That has yet to be proven in this instance. Put the ropes and torches down until they at least have a hearing, ok?


82 posted on 02/26/2012 12:22:13 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: mkjessup; stinkerpot65; Ernie Kaputnik; AtlasStalled

Thank y’all for your sensible comments-much of what I see on this thread is the sort of condemnation without evidence that we scold leftists for. If I may add my comments to yours:

I have no liking for most of the Kennedys, but-this man is a Kennedy-so what? He works for a living, is apparently a family man, and I’ve never seen/heard that he abuses drugs or alcohol, or is a bully of any sort. Calling his wife ugly, commenting on her age, speculating that he was drunk, etc seems mean-spirited, and doesn’t have anything to do with the incident. Insisting that he be fired from his job over unproven allegations is uncalled for-it is the kind of thing we condemn liberals for doing.

Babies belong to parents, not the staff of the facilities where they happen to be born. I’m pretty sure the hospital personnel knew who the father of that baby was, and may have acted as they did to get attention, for all we know-society has become so litigious in recent years that everyone is vulnerable to a lawsuit, especially if they have money.

I haven’t always worked in construction-I was a casemanager for many years, until I became totally sick of it. I went to work for the state and stayed for almost 9 of those years before going to a private company-I’ve been in the belly of the beast, so to speak-I’m definately not Pollyanna, and I’ve seen more than one video rigged for future litigation.

My family is an old one in what is now Texas-over 250 years-but just common ranchers, and no money. The family has had a reputation for having a “wild streak” and being downright dangerous-when I was a small child, I heard of a great-uncle killing his wife’s lover and not serving a day in jail, and beating his wife so badly he broke her arm and ran her over with his truck. Several of my cousins were involved in similar insanity. That does not mean that the rest of us are dangerous and mean. If we are to be fair, people should be judged by their own (proven) deeds, not those of others from the same family.


83 posted on 02/26/2012 12:25:05 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: mkjessup

Get a sense of humor, spud.

Kennedy is obviously innocent until proven guilty, everyone understands that. It doesn’t need to be repeated in every post.


84 posted on 02/26/2012 12:28:53 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Is this the first time a Kennedy Kneed a vagina?

Don’t they usually need them excessively?


85 posted on 02/26/2012 12:31:21 PM PST by Randy Larsen (No Romney vote from my family!)
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To: jessduntno; smoothsailing

A doctor who witnessed the incident said the only people who were aggressive were the nurses

The Mother of the baby also supported the doctor witness, as did the Dad in question.

Seems ya got some nurses who want to be cops.


86 posted on 02/26/2012 12:31:26 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

The issue is not who is right or wrong.
The issue is that he assaulted someone.
If you get into an argument in a bar- even if you are right-and you throw the first blow - you are at fault.
You will get arrested.
I think it is sick if people think asaulting women is a corect thing to do.
I wonder if you beat up the women in your lives for sport.
Sick,sick,sick.


87 posted on 02/26/2012 12:37:54 PM PST by kaila
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To: dragnet2

The physician was an ER doctor, who probably does not know maternity ward rules.


88 posted on 02/26/2012 12:39:22 PM PST by kaila
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To: smoothsailing
Get a sense of humor, spud.

Not easy to see much humor with the local lynch mob foaming at the mouth around here.

Kennedy is obviously innocent until proven guilty, everyone understands that. It doesn’t need to be repeated in every post.

Considering the content of this thread, it probably DOES need to be repeated in every post.
89 posted on 02/26/2012 12:43:10 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: dragnet2; jessduntno
Seems ya got some nurses who want to be cops.

Maybe, and maybe they just wanted to be nurses and protect the baby. We'll see, I imagine this will all get sorted out fairly quickly.

90 posted on 02/26/2012 12:44:37 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: mkjessup

See attached video link of incident.
The nurse was kicked across the hallway, and I do not see them touching Kennedy, just blocking him out of the way by their body .

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2012/02/25/douglas-kenned-arrested-baby-rfk-son/


91 posted on 02/26/2012 12:46:33 PM PST by kaila
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To: kaila; Ernie Kaputnik
The issue is not who is right or wrong.

Really?

The issue is that he assaulted someone.

Must not have been a very serious assault, he wasn't even charged until this past Thursday, and they were misdemeanor charges. Hardly the stuff of felonies, no matter how badly you wish it to be so.

If you get into an argument in a bar- even if you are right-and you throw the first blow - you are at fault. You will get arrested.

This isn't a bar fight we're talking about. What you seem to be having problems with is that it may well be that the nurses were the aggressors and their attempting to yank that child out of the father's arms may end up constituting "throwing the first blow".

I think it is sick if people think assaulting women is a correct thing to do.

If people are defending themselves and their newborn child from a couple of thugs in nurse's uniforms, it is MORE than correct.

I wonder if you beat up the women in your lives for sport.

There you go, making it personal and accusing Ernie of beating up women, all because he doesn't automatically jump on your lynch mob bandwagon. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Sick,sick,sick.

You are indeed.
92 posted on 02/26/2012 12:49:56 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: Texan5
***BUMP***

Thanks FRiend, for your wise and sage insight based on common sense, as that saying goes, "common sense doesn't seem to be so common anymore", which makes your contribution all that more valuable.
93 posted on 02/26/2012 12:52:47 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: mkjessup

Look at the video, that was not a gentle kick.

You advocate beating up on women.
Do you kick or punch out the women in your life because you disagree with them?


94 posted on 02/26/2012 12:54:39 PM PST by kaila
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To: kaila; dragnet2
The physician was an ER doctor, who probably does not know maternity ward rules.

Oh you're quite the expert on an ER doctor you know nothing about, you have his CV tucked behind your ear, don't you?

Even IF the ER doctor "probably does not know maternity ward rules", that would not affect his vision, and it would not affect his eye witness testimony in which he clearly stated that the nurses were the sole aggressors.

Nice try, but that dog won't hunt.
95 posted on 02/26/2012 12:55:25 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: mkjessup

One more thing, if they did not want nurses to take care of their baby, they should have delivered at home.


96 posted on 02/26/2012 12:55:47 PM PST by kaila
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To: mkjessup

Obviously, you have not looked at the video.
That nurse did not deserve the assault.


97 posted on 02/26/2012 12:56:43 PM PST by kaila
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To: kaila; All
Look at the video, that was not a gentle kick.

I did, and it's all about context. Regardless of whether that kick was 'gentle' or not, we have eye witness testimony that the nurses were the aggressors and it is notable that there are not throngs of witnesses all lining up to defend their actions (except for you, in your ignorance).

You advocate beating up on women.

You're a liar, I neither said or suggested any such thing. Liars go to Hell, so you better watch your damn step.

Do you kick or punch out the women in your life because you disagree with them?

I'm not even going to dignify that crap with a response. But you can bet I'm flagging your post to the mods. You can disagree with other posters all you want, but you better give your head a shake baby, and knock off your pathetic habit of accusing others of abominable behavior without cause.

You're one sick sack o' sh*t.
98 posted on 02/26/2012 12:59:51 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: kaila
One more thing, if they did not want nurses to take care of their baby, they should have delivered at home.

Oh you really ARE the expert aren't you? You need to step away from the keyboard before you embarrass yourself further.
99 posted on 02/26/2012 1:01:06 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: kaila
A doctor who witnessed the incident said the only people who were aggressive were the nurses

The Mother of the baby also supported the doctor witness, as did the Dad in question.

Seems ya got some nurses who want to be cops.

The physician was an ER doctor, who probably does not know maternity ward rules.

And that has what to do with his comment that unequivocally named the nurses as the only aggressors?

Dr. Timothy Haydock: "I witnessed the incident and I can state unequivocally that the nurses were the only aggressors," he said. "To charge Mr. Kennedy with a crime is simply incomprehensible to me."

100 posted on 02/26/2012 1:01:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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