Skip to comments.Douglas Kennedy, son of the late Robert F. Kennedy, charged with hospital assault
Posted on 02/26/2012 8:50:05 AM PST by smoothsailing
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The eyewitness was a friend of the family- not reliable.
Report me to the mods- all I am saying is that no man should hit a woman.No matter what the issue is about.
If you believe that, then you are a sack of sh*t.
Also, you are defending a Kennedy on FR.
Nope, not going to apologize at all.
If you defend Kennedys actions, then you think it is ok to assault women.
As a nurse, who has been assaulted by patients, I take umbrage to your remarks.
I watched the surveillance video and was surprised to see the 5 foot tall nurse go sliding backwards across the floor after allegedly being kicked in the pelvis. If that gets explained honestly and verifiably, I think we'll know then whether or not there's a need for a lynch mob.
Tim Blight is a failure of a dick. His investigative reporting is limp at best. Not the kind of stand-up guy that would lead with the hard facts; namely, son of RFK.
What are you smoking?
“The issue is not who is right or wrong.”
That’s BS, and you know it. It is exactly about right and wrong. Some jackbooted nurse attacks me while I’m holding my newborn son, that’s wrong, and I’ll kick the living shiite out of her. No apologies and no regrets.
“The issue is that he assaulted someone.”
Wrong. The issue is that he was assaulted and defended himself and his newborn son.
“If you get into an argument in a bar- even if you are right-and you throw the first blow - you are at fault.”
OK. For the sake of argument, I’ll agree with you on that. Be advised that the nurses threw the first punch by lunging at him. They are guilty and responsible for the altercation. Arrest them and send them to jail and give Mr. Kennedy a medal. (See how that works?)
“I think it is sick if people think asaulting women is a corect thing to do.”
If a person attacks, assaults or threatens me or my family with bodily harm, I will beat the living shiite out of him or her regardless as to what their sex or sexual orientation is, and won’t regret doing so or apologize for it. End of discussion.
“I wonder if you beat up the women in your lives for sport.”
Typical attitude a feminazi. It’s OK for a woman to attack a man, but a never OK for a man to defend himself, because if he does, then he’s a wife beater. If those ladies didn’t want to get a foot to the groin, then they should have kept their damn hands to themselves.
You’re a complete jackass for insinuating that I beat up women for sport. Again, typical liberal mentallity. Draw conclusions about a person without any legitimate or justifiable reason to do so in order to win an argument. Attacking me personally, casting aspersions about me, insulting me and accusing me of things I have never done will not shut me up, nor will it win the argument for you.
PISS OFF! You just lost any validity in this debate. Go back to your hole, you ugly, little, malignant troll.
Very well said, Texan5.
What I see is someone who defends Kenndy’s actions when these parameters have occurred- this incident happened in liberal New York, there is video evidence, and the prosecuter investigated and brought charges .Why ? Because Kennedy is at fault.
It is going to be tough for Kennedy to get out of this one.
Yes, he will have a trial, but just looking at the video- he is guilty.
I hope he rots in jail.
I only see Kennedy being the aggressor and trying to do what he wants to do despite them telling him you can’t leave, after the first warning he ignors it and trys to head for stairwell. he is trying to get past the nurses and security, not once but twice. looks like he puts his hand on the nurse first and pushed his body past her to get the stairwell door open. He makes body contact with the nurse first. the second nurse doesn’t touch him, but he kicks her.
Kennedy says they were going after him but he doesn’t have a scratch on him or the baby. the evidence speaks for itself. I don’t see the wife as a witness on video.
If true this will show on FOX during the Academy Awards which will siphon off the potential viewing audience.
SUNDAY NIGHT 2/26/12
This Coming Sunday-- Set Your DVR for the Fox News channel at 9:00 PM eastern. Maybe this is why the White House has been discounting FOX. Sounds like this could be history in the making - someone may go down - either Obama or Fox News. It may be that Fox has been holding this information back due to the sensitivity of it and out of courtesy.
But, Obama has taken on Fox and it appears they are ready to spill the ugly beans of truth about the background of this individual who has had an extremely radical past. This Sunday, Fox News is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama, Sunday night 26th. at 9 P.M. Eastern.
The report will go back to Obama's earlier days, showing even then his close ties to radical Marxist professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc. It will also reveal details about his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ years, i.e., how he was participating with this man, and not for the reasons he stated. The report has uncovered more of Obama's radical past and we will see things that no one in the media is willing to put out there. It will be a segment to remember.
OUR country is being sold down the road to Totalitarian Socialism. If you care about the direction of our country, pass this notice on to everyone ON YOUR E LIST..
I guess that you are biased to the conservative point of view, so maybe you should not discuss conservative issues.Only liberal should discuss conservatism? Is that your view? I am biased, so I have no opinion?
I work in hospitals, I know the policy and procedures, I know Kennedy broke the rules.
He is going to jail. I hope the whole clan could go to jail. They have tried to ruin this country. Their elitism is evident in this incident.
That’s interesting, thanks for the headsup!
To give you some idea; she is probably one of the better-looking ones to come out of Vermont. You don't want to see the others...trust me.
Geez, and i thought she was two ugly women.
Thank you both very much for your kind words-I’m glad none of the lynch mob wannabes referred to my post on my less-than-admirable relatives. Any references there would have brought Hispanics/American Indians and firewater up, adding bigotry to the stew. That said, I’m truly appalled by some of those comments and baseless accusations-I was almost smelling the tar and feathers.
Obviously, you have not watched the video.
The nurse who was kicked did not even touch Kennedy.
I see no aggressive action by the nurses against Kennedy- except they took control of the elevator panel and a nurse stood in front of the stairway.
You cannot take a newborn out of a nursery to the outside until discharge. It is dangerous to the baby- hospitals have germs, and dangerous to the other infants if the baby was exposed to a virus while on his dads expedition.
If they did not want to obey the rules of the hospital, they should have delivered at home.
If you advocate for his behavior-then your words speak for itself on your position regarding women in this society.
Kennedy could have handled this in an adult manner, as previous posters have said. To defend assault is sick.
The nurses were right. No hospital allows this. If Kennedy wanted to go walking around outside with a newborn in his arms, the wife ahould have had a home birthing.
I am sure alcohol was involved in some way.
If Kennedy really ran down the stairs with a newborn baby as the police report states, then there’s a real problem here. That’s an extremely dangerous thing to do. But if this whole thing is a setup, then there must be punishment for unjustly accusing Kennedy.
According to a Mount Kisco, N.Y. police report obtained by NBC New York, Douglas Kennedy, 44, took his baby from the newborn unit of Northern Westchester Hospital on Jan. 7, against the instructions of hospital staff who told him the infant needed to stay there. The arrest was on misdemeanor charges.
Kennedy and his wife, Molly, disputed the accusations in a statement to NBC New York, saying “these allegations are absurd.”
The nurse in charge of the unit, Anna Margaret Lane, said in a deposition that Kennedy wanted to take the child “to get fresh air” that evening. As he tried to leave, he was accompanied by a doctor from the hospital’s emergency room, identified in court papers as “Dr. Haydock,” later determined to be Dr. Timothy Haydock, a longtime family friend.
While the nursing staff sought to get Kennedy to return the baby to his bassinet, Haydock reportedly encouraged Kennedy to walk with the baby by telling nurses that he was with him, according to Lane’s deposition.
Kennedy ignored the pleas of the nursing staff and carried the newborn — identified in court papers as “B.K.” — to the elevator, police said. As the nursing staff tried to calm him and dissuade him from leaving the hospital, Kennedy turned and walked toward a stairwell leading to the outside of the hospital.
Lane blocked the doorway, “placing both hands on the doorknob” to prevent Kennedy from leaving, police said. Kennedy grabbed the nurse by her left wrist and twisted it to that he could pass into the stairwell, police said.
The baby’s head “began to move from side to side, and in an attempt to stabilize the baby’s head, nurse Cari Maleman Luciano reached toward the infant’s head,” police said.
“Instinctively as a nurse, I raised both my arms toward the neck of the baby to steady the violent shaking of the baby’s head and neck,” Luciano told investigators in a deposition.
While holding the child in his right arm, Kennedy kicked Luciano in the pelvis with his right foot, knocking her backward onto the floor, police said.
As he did this, Kennedy fell onto the floor with the baby in his arms. Kennedy then got up and ran “down the stairs with the infant until he was stopped by security and escorted back to the infant’s room,” the police report said.
The police report did not say whether the infant was harmed in the altercation.
The statement to NBC New York from Kennedy and his wife said there was no crime committed.
“The nurse had no right to attempt to grab our child out of his father’s arms and I, Douglas, was shocked and appalled when she did so,” the statement said.
Haydock said in a statement to NBC New York that Kennedy, whom he has known for more than 40 years, was not putting his healthy baby at risk by seeking to take him for a walk outside.
“I witnessed the incident and I can state unequivocally that the nurses were the only aggressors,” he said. “To charge Mr. Kennedy with a crime is simply incomprehensible to me.”
I have been assaulted by clients on more than one occasion-usually when I busted them for attempting to defraud their workers comp insurance carrier, or the company I worked for. I yelled for help, defended myself physically, wrote my report to the proper people and let it go-no chip on my shoulder-it was part of my job. I got tired of it, so I don’t do that any more for a living.
The ER physician has no legal standing in a nursery.
The nursery nurses, the OBGyn, and the neonatologist are above the ER physician in the chain of command.
If the Nursery nurse, the neonatologist, and the OBGyn were in the ER, then the ER physician is at the top of the chain of command.
Therefore, what the ER physician has to say about policies and procedures in the nursery is irrelevant. You cannot get testimony from him as a physician witness, only witness testimony as a friend.
Touched a nerve, didn’t I?
I wonder why?
If the physician is not a neonatologist,or an OB, with priviledges as that hospital- then his opinion means squat.
The nursery nurse has more power than the ER physician in that situation.
I'm glad you asked Ernie, here is the entire article that we are commenting on:
Douglas Kennedy, Fox News correspondent and son of the late Robert F. Kennedy, has been charged with assault after a 7 January incident in a New York hospital.
2 nurses at the Mt Kisco hospital alleged that Kennedy became violent after they tried to prevent him from taking his newborn son Bo outside of the ward. Kennedy says he wanted to "get some fresh air" and had already received permission from other nurses on duty, Reuters reports.
The confrontation began after nurses issued a "code pink", an alert that someone is attempting to abduct a baby. The incident was partially caught on surveillance camera; although obscured by a doorway, nurse Cari Luciano can be seen falling to the ground.
L Luciano stated that Kennedy "raised his right foot and with tremendous force kicked [her] in the pelvis area". Another nurse, Anna Lane, accused the New York-based journalist of twisting her arm, although this appears off screen on the surveillance video.
Kennedy has been charged with harassment and endangering the welfare of a child.
Kennedy and his wife have labeled accusations "absurd" in an interview with NBC New York. His lawyer, Robert Gottlieb, called the altercation the result of "aggressive and grossly inappropriate behavior by two nurses".
"Whatever Douglas did came about only because the nurse was lunging to grab his child from his arms. What Douglas did was simply to protect his baby," he added.
A date for the hearing has not yet been announced.
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Thanks, kaila, I wasn’t aware of any of that. So Haydock had no authority in the situation and was merely acting as a family friend.
If he has priviledges at that hospital, and he encouraged Kennedy to take the baby, he could get into trouble with hospital administration.
He had no business trying to pull his weight in the nursery. He was out of his field of expertise, was not trained in policy or procedures of that unit.
The nurses could have told him to get lost, and he would have to comply.
Just because you have MD after your name, does not mean that you have ultimate power in other units not in your work enviroment.
Sounds like you have a hate on for doctors. Oh wait, did I accuse you unjustly? Guess it must be having been accused of advocating violence against women by some troll claiming to be a nurse.
It "establishes" that Haydock was with Kennedy and the baby initially. It makes no mention of Haydock's whereabouts while Kennedy was in the elevator, heading for the stairwell door, running down the stairs, being stopped by security, or being escorted back to the nursery. That was all "established" too. But it's a police report based on the nurse statements, so what has really been established?
I'm kidnapping YOUR baby from the maternity ward and I'm confronted by several nurses who don't know me from Adam and I use the excuse "I was given permission from the hospital" to take "my" baby outside for some fresh air......
And YOU expect the hospital staff to accept that explanation carte blanche without any challenge whatsoever to me and a demand that I produce identification as to whether or not I am the true father of that baby?
Take your head out of your ass, the lack of oxygen is affecting your thought process.
This ER physician would get torn apart on cross examination.
All the prosecuting attorney will need to ask if he is board certified in neonatology, OB Gyn, or Pediatrics.
The answer would be “no”.
Then the prosecuting attorney will ask him when was the last time he practiced in a nursery. The answer will most likely be “20 years ago when I was in medical school.”
Then the prosecuting attorney will get a nursery nurse with a huge amount of credentials- with a whole bunch of alphabet digits after her name, a board certified neonatologist,a pediatrician, an ObGyn and ask them ( on the witness stand) what are the risks of removing an infant from the nursery?. They will make this ER doc look bad.
Then the final nail on this ER docs credibility would be to show him the policies and procedures of the nursery unit, and ask him if he was aware of them, and did he sign off on those procedures.You see, when you are an employee, you sign you name to the procedures specific to the unit you work on during orientation.
The answer would be “no”. He would be discredited in the eyes of the jury.Anything he said after that would look suspect.That is why I take no credence to his version of the story.
Sounds like he let his longtime friendship get in the way of his common sense. Lord knows I’ve made that mistake before.
I am a nurse, and I am married to a doctor.
He would not throw his weight around on a unit not in the hospital he practices, or in an area not in his field of expertise.
You are the one who knows very little about how the medical field is run.
They tried, that's the subject of this article. It's Mr. Kennedy's attorney's allegation that a nurse tried to grab the baby from Mr. Kennedy's arms as he tried to enter the elevator unauthorized.
The video disputes that claim and shows the result of Mr. Kennedy's kicking of a nurse that tried to prevent him from leaving with a baby he claimed was his........
I doubt that “lunging” is part of the protocol, either.
Yeah thats the ticket she was on a power trip and not really enforcing hospital rules so she deserves to a good kick to the groin. full sarcasm alert.
what’s your expert legal opinion on that?
This is a politically well connected family.
You seem to be either uninformed or misinformed about the workings of hospitals.
ER docs aren’t exactly the highest status docs in the hospital. Granted, they have a very tough job and yes they are God in the ER. This particular physician had no authority outside of his department. None. Zero.
Kennedy is a jerk. He was the one who endangered his child so he could go outside - probably for a cigarette. The three day old baby needed fresh air? Where is he going to find fresh air in NY? LOL
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