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What Do I Do to Shut Up My Mexican-Hating Mexican Cousin?
OC Weekly ^ | GUSTAVO ARELLANO

Posted on 03/12/2012 12:30:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway

DEAR MEXICAN: My cousin had put a picture on Facebook that said, "I will not be forced to learn a foreign language to accommodate illegals in my country." He's Mexican-American. Our family is from La Luz, Zacatecas, and its surrounding villages. His dad (my uncle) was born in El Paso, Texas. His mom jumped into the conversation and backed him up. His parents are divorced. How do I politely tell them they are wrong with their way of thinking?

Prepared to Punch a Pinche Pocho Primo


DEAR WAB: Sorry, cabrón, but you're just not going to win this battle. As much as I and other Chicano yaktivists would love it if everyone of Mexican descent in this country were a card-carrying member of the Reconquista complete with Nahuatl names and a Frida-filled house, that's just not going to happen. As I've explained muchos times before, the great thing about this country is how it can turn the descendents of even the biggest wab into an anti-immigrant loon by the second generation (see: Marco Rubio) and even by the first (see: my parents). The best you can do is remind your cousin that your grandparents came to this country to find a better life and to not talk trash on those less fortunate than they—but, again, it's a losing battle that goes contrary to the American immigrant experience, which sees the previous generation of immigrants spit on newcomers as though they were a spittoon. So can I suggest something revolutionary, instead? Leave your primo to his opinions. Let him be a prieto Know Nothing. You be the conscious cousin, and let him be the pocho one—trust me, you'll get all the hot second cousins at the family pachangas, while he'll be condemned to be the Tio Taco of El Paso.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: hatespeech; illegal; immigration; larza; lulac; mexican; mexicanamerican; mexico; reconquista; rubio

1 posted on 03/12/2012 12:30:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
you'll get all the hot second cousins at the family pachangas

Must be a cultural thing.

2 posted on 03/12/2012 12:33:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: nickcarraway

Not wanting to learn Spanish is not “Mexican-hating”, IMO. And what is with this hyphenating everything? He’s American. If he’s a dual citizen, then he can Mexican-American.


3 posted on 03/12/2012 12:41:04 PM PDT by plaidness
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To: skeeter
"you'll get all the hot second cousins at the family pachangas"

"Must be a cultural thing."

Can also be read as an inbreeding thing.

4 posted on 03/12/2012 12:44:11 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: nickcarraway
DEAR WAB: Sorry, cabrón...

Aye. Such language. Unless you are really good friends and it is said in jest, this is a fighting word.

5 posted on 03/12/2012 12:46:52 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: nickcarraway
Here are key portions of the address to Congress in December 1923 by President Calvin Coolidge:

American institutions rest solely on good citizenship. They were created by people who had a background of self-government. New arrivals should be limited to our capacity to absorb them into the ranks of good citizenship. America must be kept American.

For this purpose it is necessary to continue a policy of restricted immigration. It would be well to make such immigration of a selective nature with some inspection at the source, and based either on a prior census or upon the record of naturalization. Either method would insure the admission of those with the largest capacity and best intention of becoming citizens. Those who do not want to be partakers of the American spirit ought not to settle in America.

6 posted on 03/12/2012 12:48:20 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: nickcarraway

This mexican dear abby is a real brain trust - he talks about reconquista then cries that some are less than willing to welcome more poor illegal immigrants.


7 posted on 03/12/2012 12:51:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: nickcarraway

“I will not be forced to learn a foreign language to accommodate illegals in my country.”

This is supposed to be hatred according to the politically correct.

How about the people who deliberately disobey and disrespect our laws?
How about those who commit crimes, who drive without insurance and run away from traffic accidents?
How about those who commit identity theft?
How about those who collect government handouts fraudulently?

This guy sounds like a good guy.


8 posted on 03/12/2012 12:53:33 PM PDT by detective
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To: nickcarraway

Most Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are NOT immigrants they are INSURGENTS...
True some did go through proper channels but by far most didn’t..

Them or their parents or grand-parents were insurgents.. “wet backs”.. illegal aliens..

Any that have the slightest bit of pride in Mexico are ignorant or delusional..
Mexican food is good but Mexicans have never be able to govern themselves..
Mexicans have ALWAYS been governed by MOB RULE with mobsters in charge..

Many many years ago Mexicans HAD to complete a course on American History strong in Civics..
Actually ANY foreign person had to complete this course..
NOW not even high school students have the slightest idea about Civics..

You can go to college and get a PHD after 8 or so years and be totally ignorant of American History and Civics..

Republicans allowed this to happen and are MORE GUILTY OF IT than democrats are..
Republicans allowed the DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA..
They allowed the Teachers Unions to do this...

By the way did you know that Santo and WIllard support UNIONS...
If would HARD to find any negative comment on UNIONS by either of them..
Actually it would hard to find any comment about any Union Pro or Con..
They will not even MENTION anything about a UNION...

The UNIONS OWN Rick and Willard.. as they do Obama..
HELLO.. anybody notice something strange about this “brotherhood”..


9 posted on 03/12/2012 12:56:13 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: nickcarraway
Thats the money shot: "your grandparents came to this country to find a better life"

If they wanted this place to be more like Mexico they would have stayed in Mexico.

10 posted on 03/12/2012 1:06:34 PM PDT by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propagandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: re_nortex
When I was an American living in Japan, I despised Americans living there who refused to learn Japanese (even though they had been there for years) and trash-talked their host country. Even though we were guests and even though a minority of our hosts were blatantly racist, I felt we had an obligation to at least acknowledge that most of the people in our host country were gracious and giving us an opportunity which we might never have in our home country.

As such, I behaved like a grateful guest and expected other Americans to do likewise. America would be a far more pleasant place for guests and hosts alike if visitors to our nation behaved in like manner.

11 posted on 03/12/2012 1:09:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: skeeter

I haven’t looked at an OC Weekly in years..looks like it’s still a liberal rag.

Also, I’m Mexican-American & this “Ask Gustavo” column must be some kind of joke..& if it’s not a joke or satire, who thinks this clowns spanglish replies are even considered serious in any way?
The previous question on his column was “Why do Mexicans Pick Through Trash To Look For Recyclables?”

This “Gustavo” is racist!! I’m reporting him to Attack Watch...


12 posted on 03/12/2012 1:10:58 PM PDT by rainee
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To: nickcarraway

What Do I Do to Shut Up My Conservative-Hating Cousin Who Hates Hearing My Conservative Opinions?


13 posted on 03/12/2012 1:12:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: rainee

Maybe its supposed to be satire. If so, they guy is pretty funny.


14 posted on 03/12/2012 1:13:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: hosepipe

“Most Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are NOT immigrants they are INSURGENTS...”

I would not say ‘most’, but I would say many. I also would not say ‘insurgents’ since colonists is the more accurate term.


15 posted on 03/12/2012 1:28:39 PM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: skeeter
Maybe its supposed to be satire. If so, they guy is pretty funny.

Here's the image that accompanies the "Ask a Mexican" column. To a certain extent, it's a Mexican spin on "You might be a redneck" but is generally a hate-filled rant against genuine, legal Americans.


16 posted on 03/12/2012 1:30:08 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Given that the author is a pinche puta pindejo his terrible language is no surprise.


17 posted on 03/12/2012 1:30:44 PM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Maryland counties seek to make English official language
Further into story....Frederick County based its ordinance on model legislation by ProEnglish, a national group that seeks to make English the official language. That nationwide campaign is characterized very differently by supporters and opponents.

“It’s a very pro-immigrant, immigrant-friendly measure,” said Suzanne Bibby, director of government relations for ProEngish. “English is the language of success here.”

But Heidi Beirich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project, said, “This effort to push English as an official language is part of a strategy basically to reduce the Latino population here, and it’s a racist strategy.”
SPLC need they say more ?http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-english-only-20120311,0,1560297.story?page=2


18 posted on 03/12/2012 1:34:36 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: skeeter

“you’ll get all the hot second cousins at the family pachangas

Must be a cultural thing.”

It is.

They got it from the Muslims.

Spain was ruled by Muslims for 700 years and Spanish culture reflects much of the sheer nastiness that is Islam.

Think: Inbreeding, Corruption.

‘Sides, many believe “better get ‘em while they’re young” - MadMo did. And to this day, so do many “Hispanics”.


19 posted on 03/12/2012 1:40:29 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: nickcarraway

My sisters boy friend is a legal mexican and hates illegals...says he can spot the illegals in a crowd. Has contempt for them...


20 posted on 03/12/2012 1:46:15 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: skeeter

Queen Elizabeth is married to her second cousin. It’s not all that bad, really; the coefficient of consanguinuity is only 3.1%.


21 posted on 03/12/2012 2:56:50 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: goat granny
My sisters boy friend is a legal mexican and hates illegals...says he can spot the illegals in a crowd. Has contempt for them...

I suspect that's a fairly widespread opinion among those who came here legally or who are second or third generation citizens. Which is why the vaunted Democrat plan to monopolize the "Hispanic" vote probably won't produce the expected results.

The plan is based on the monolithic black vote. Hispanics aren't monolithic.

22 posted on 03/12/2012 3:31:43 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: MeganC
Given that the author is a pinche puta pindejo his terrible language is no surprise.

I think you mean pendejo but I don't talk that way. ;)

23 posted on 03/12/2012 4:06:11 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: ccmay

'nuff said.

24 posted on 03/12/2012 5:43:20 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: nickcarraway

One is either Mexican or American, one can’t be both. My people left Ireland over one hundred and fifty years ago. Ireland means nothing to me. I’m not an “Irish-American’’. I’m an American. I wish to hell Mexicans would drop this hyphenated bull-sh!t and lose the pugnacious attitude about ‘’reconquista’’, stop breaking in here and observe our laws and live by them. They’re doing other wise is causing massive resentment. If they want a ‘’better life’’ then for Christ sake stop dragging the crappy one they’ve been living in Mexico here!


25 posted on 03/12/2012 9:27:41 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: MeganC

Ironically so is yours. Yo comprende ‘’pinche puto(masculine, not femmine) pindejo’’.


26 posted on 03/12/2012 9:30:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
One is either Mexican or American, one can’t be both.

Actually, you can't be Mexican without being American. Mexico is part of North America, so they are definitely Americans.

27 posted on 03/12/2012 9:34:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

No, they’re Mexicans who live in Mexico. That would be like saying , in reverse, that I’m Mexican, applying your illogic. They are are not “Americans,’’ i.e citizens of The United States of America.


28 posted on 03/12/2012 10:32:22 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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Isn’t everyone who lives in North America or South America an American? What do you think they are Europeans? African? Martians?


29 posted on 03/12/2012 10:37:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Folks that I know who come from South America identify themselves from the countries they come from, “Peru’’, Columbia’’ etc. I’ve never heard any of them EVER call themselves an “American’’. Believe it or not when I did say that to them they looked very puzzled, even offended. Try calling any West Indian black an “African’’ and you’ll get an earful!


30 posted on 03/12/2012 10:45:42 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: nickcarraway
If I have to speak English instead of Irish Gaelic, you can learn to speak English.

So WAB, stop being a pendejo.

31 posted on 03/13/2012 7:49:57 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: nickcarraway

Mexico has a border fence.

To the ... south.


32 posted on 03/13/2012 7:53:19 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, we know why Mexico is such a sh*thole: The people that come from there don’t seem to be too bright.


33 posted on 03/13/2012 9:28:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: CodeToad

Well, Mexico is one of the richest countries in the world. And the richest person in the world is from Mexico...


34 posted on 03/13/2012 9:47:47 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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So, since there is wealth there is no corruption, stupidity, or the like? Since there is such wealth why is Mexico a sewer?


35 posted on 03/13/2012 10:20:39 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: jmacusa

No, I meant the ‘puta’ part. :-P


36 posted on 03/13/2012 11:25:47 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t care if they want to call themselves that. I care very much when they tell us we have no right to call ourselves “Americans” because they are too. That’s like telling folks from New York City they can’t call themselves “New Yorkers” because there’s also a state by the same name.


37 posted on 03/18/2012 10:18:58 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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