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Top 5 Reasons to Arrest George Zimmerman (Top 5 left-wing lies about Zimmerman)
PolicyMic ^ | March 31, 2012 | Sifat Azad

Posted on 03/31/2012 11:28:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On February 26, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed on his way back to his father’s home by 28-year-old, neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman in Sanford, Florida. Martin was unarmed, carrying nothing but a bag of Skittles and a bottle of iced tea, and dressed in a hooded sweatshirt. It has been over a month since Martin was murdered, and Zimmerman has not been charged or arrested, even though he has confessed to the shooting. Here are the top 5 reasons to arrest George Zimmerman:

1. Trayvon Martin was not a threat. Florida's “Stand Your Ground” law enables gun owners to use their weapon in self-defense in any public space, if they feel their safety is threatened. This Florida law is protecting Zimmerman. But, according to the 911 call that Zimmerman made, Trayvon was unarmed and out of Zimmerman’s way. So what type of threat did he impose? None. The only “threat” Zimmerman had to stand by was that Martin was a young, black male dressed in a hoodie. The police told Zimmerman not to follow Martin in the tape but he went against their orders — trusting his suspicions and racially profiling Martin— and followed the boy, who was shot and killed within two minutes.

2. Zimmerman committed a hate crime. In Zimmerman’s initial 911 call, he called Trayvon Martin a “F**cking Co*n.” The recording proves that Zimmerman’s thought process was influenced by race, which implies that he committed a hate crime and did not act in self defense.

3. Yes, George Zimmerman is a racist. In hopes of saving his son from being characterized as a racist, Zimmerman’s father, Robert Zimmerman, wrote in a letter to the Orlando Sentinel, that George is “a Spanish-speaking minority … He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever.” His family has even pointed out that some of his relatives are black. In his interview with Fox News, Robert Zimmerman said that George is “colorblind when it comes to any race,” and even mentions that he has mentored two black children. Being a minority doesn’t give people resistance from having racist beliefs. The truth of the matter is that anyone is susceptible to being racist regardless of their race. Read the full interview here.

4. Zimmerman was not "screaming" for help. When Robert was asked about the screams for help following the first gunshot in his interview with Fox News, he responded, “All of our family, everyone who knows George, knows absolutely that is George screaming. There's no doubt in anyone's mind.” Why would George scream for help after the first gunshot? He was the one who pulled the trigger on Martin. It makes more sense that Trayvon would cry for help after being shot at. There is one last gunshot following the cries for help, after which the cries stop. Here is the audio.

5. Zimmerman had no visible injuries. The beating Robert describes that George received from the young boy is severe: “Trayvon Martin walked up to him and asked him, 'Do you have a f*cking problem?' George said, 'No, I don't have a problem,' and started to reach for his cell phone ... at that point, he (Martin) was punching him in the nose, his nose was broken and he was knocked to the concrete … It’s my understanding that Trayvon Martin got on top of him and started beating him.” However the police surveillance video of George that night doesn’t show any visible injuries. Robert’s response to this was, “I don’t know what the video showed. I haven’t seen it … He wasn’t given any medical attention, but they may have cleaned him up there at the scene. I don’t know.” George’s injuries would have been evidence of the beating he encountered from Trayvon; why would the police clean George up on his way to questioning? Even the lead investigator that night did not buy Zimmerman’s story. He wanted to file manslaughter charges against George, but he was overruled by the state’s attorney.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet she’s seen more doctors at the Health Clinic than words she’s written.


2 posted on 03/31/2012 11:31:31 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

If Snooki were a Muslim...


3 posted on 03/31/2012 11:33:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m just waiting for the riots, or the lynching of zimmerman whichever comes first.

the left gets its way most of the time these days. Especially when it comes to political correctness.


4 posted on 03/31/2012 11:33:20 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m just waiting for the riots, or the lynching of zimmerman whichever comes first.

the left gets its way most of the time these days. Especially when it comes to political correctness.


5 posted on 03/31/2012 11:33:48 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If I were an angry Latino/white out to kill a black for no reason other than him being black and me driven by my extreme prejudice, the first thing I would do is call 911 and let them know that there is an issue.

I'm convinced that would throw the police and prosecutors off and let me go.

This is one shrewd cold blooded murderer this Zimmerman, very shrewd.../s

6 posted on 03/31/2012 11:37:58 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Anyone in Floriduh should go to their state AG (Pam Bondi) website and fill out a complaint form against the REVS and NBPP for their threats.

A threat of law suit....See Spike Lee....Usually settles the improper actions. Spike learned: Money doesn’t just talk, it hurts when it’s leaving your own hand.


7 posted on 03/31/2012 11:41:11 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God anhttp://sanfordfl.gov/inved Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The last time I saw that look it was on Anthony Perkins as Norman Bates in Psycho.


8 posted on 03/31/2012 11:43:10 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In Zimmerman’s initial 911 call, he called Trayvon Martin a “F**cking Co*n.”

Nobody as yet has proven this fallacy. Much like the so called Tea Partiers that supposedly called members of congress "ni$$#$".

But repeat a lie often enough it will become true.

9 posted on 03/31/2012 11:45:17 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this is the case against Zimmerman he has little to worry about.


10 posted on 03/31/2012 11:45:46 AM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: Domandred

I thought I read here somewhere that Mr. Zimmerman called the non-emergency police phone number, not 911.


11 posted on 03/31/2012 11:47:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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12 posted on 03/31/2012 11:47:53 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Young boy? A young boy is under 13ish. 17 is NOT a young boy. How stupid are these people anyway?


13 posted on 03/31/2012 11:49:21 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6. The Rule-of-law doesn’t mean s**t any more.


14 posted on 03/31/2012 11:54:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But Zimmerman WAS arrested. I saw the photos, the footage, the evidence that he was put in handcuffs and taken in by police.

Someone needs to show Al so he can get a good night’s sleep.


15 posted on 03/31/2012 11:54:22 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trained Women’s Assault Team member.


16 posted on 03/31/2012 11:56:25 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Although I’m not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, this “Stand Your Ground” law seems insane to me.

“If you FEEL your life is threatened”

Well WTF does THAT mean? “Feel” is subjective.

I live in New York city, and every other person I meet is completely insane (no, seriously). So if someone who has a fear of clowns sees Bozo, they can blow him away?

For example I’m a big guy, 6’4” tall, bald with tattoos a beard, and one night at 2am I went to a Chase ATM on Broadway and 64th (approx. street) and used my card to open the door. And when I walked in this girl was there who just went ape sh*t when she saw me and screamed and ran out. Much like the “normal people” did on that old `60s show “The Munsters” when they saw Herman Munster. You know, screamed and crashed through a door.

Well what if she had a gun and used this law? I didn’t do ANYTHING to her, yet she can blow my brains out? WTF?


17 posted on 03/31/2012 11:56:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
from Pat Buchanan’s “Suicide of a Superpower” the FBI’s crime figures for 2007: “Blacks committed 433,934 violent crimes against whites, eight times as many as the 55,685 that whites committed against blacks...” (Page 243)

Quite contrary to the completely false narrative the media and sharptonistas are trying to portray. the statistics are clear--the average white person has far more to fear from blacks than the average black person from whites.

18 posted on 03/31/2012 11:56:38 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: freedomrings69

If this is the case against Zimmerman he has little to worry about.

Agreed.


19 posted on 03/31/2012 11:59:46 AM PDT by ironman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see where the “Stand Your Ground” law even is a part of this. I know the “media” is confused and all over the place but from what I can understand, Zimmerman was going back to his vehicle when “the boy” approached him, punched him in the face and used his head as a basketball until Zimmerman shot him. That’s known as self defense not “Stand Your Ground”.


20 posted on 03/31/2012 12:05:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: Cubs Fan
I doubt Zimmerman will be lynched in the classic sense.

However, I can forsee a black judge, black jury, black prosecutor, black court reporter and a black courtroom clerk. Guess who will be convicted.

21 posted on 03/31/2012 12:09:24 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: ironman

I suspect that the Mr. Zimmerman has a number of VERY serious worries:

1. Lynching or murder by hoodlums.
2. Bankruptcy from legal fees.
3. Unemployment because his employer is pressured or threatened into firing him. (Or maybe he’s his own boss, which could mean his business is in danger.)

I don’t think he has to worry bout jail.


22 posted on 03/31/2012 12:11:28 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

That’s when the Hispanics need to grow a set, stand up and defend one of their own. Do an O.J. circus on the court.


23 posted on 03/31/2012 12:12:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Zimmerman committed a hate crime. In Zimmerman’s initial 911 call, he called Trayvon Martin a “F**cking Co*n.” The recording proves that Zimmerman’s thought process was influenced by race, which implies that he committed a hate crime and did not act in self defense..."

I have proof of this as a falsehood, as if I needed it: See my post here at #90 (you have to scroll to near the bottom of the thread) where I have linked to an audio analysis I did of the recording

It links to a loop that I enhanced, and clearly he says "F***ing Punks" not "coons".

24 posted on 03/31/2012 12:13:58 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"he called Trayvon Martin a “F**cking Co*n"

Okay, I can actually see why "F**cking is censored, but Coon?

Isn't that like saying Cracker, Dago, Spic, or the extra-chromosome right wing? You know, acceptable language in polite society!

25 posted on 03/31/2012 12:14:59 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...And, you know, the thing about a shark... she's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When she comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living..."
26 posted on 03/31/2012 12:16:05 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMG! And now I need a new keyboard. Great line thanks for making my day brighter... ;)


27 posted on 03/31/2012 12:17:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I doubt Zimmerman will be lynched in the classic sense. However, I can forsee a black judge, black jury, black prosecutor, black court reporter and a black courtroom clerk. Guess who will be convicted.

very likely. or perhaps just as likely- eric holder will file civil rights charges against Zimmerman. The left will get its way. When it comes to political correctness it nearly always does. sad to say.

28 posted on 03/31/2012 12:22:06 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: Domandred; Dacus943

See my post on this thread at #24...


29 posted on 03/31/2012 12:25:36 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just to clarify the Author's five points:

1. LIE
2. LIE
3. LIE
4. LIE
5. LIE

30 posted on 03/31/2012 12:27:21 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I tend to think it will help us if the radical black and Hispanic organizations become involved in some serious squabbles. It is reported from time to time that there is a near war going on between the two groups in South Los Angeles. Such a fight would go along way towards splitting up the coalition between blacks, Hispanics, Asians, non-Christians and gays. This coalition has been successfully taking over governance of our country and must be stopped if our nation is to survive.


31 posted on 03/31/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Little Ray

As his mother is Peruvian, he is probably a citizen of that country, as well as the USA. He might want to emigrate.


32 posted on 03/31/2012 12:32:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I agree. This "The Boy" vs. Zimmerman fiasco is going to backfire bigtime on the commie libs. Hoodies and all. IMHO.

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33 posted on 03/31/2012 12:35:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to WEAN the government off of our money.)
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To: Cubs Fan

As slowly as the wheels of justice turn, it is likely that Eric Holder will be a former attorney general well before this case (if any) ever gets off the ground. Remember: It’ll be April in about 9 more hours and the election is in early November.


34 posted on 03/31/2012 12:37:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“Although I’m not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV, this “Stand Your Ground” law seems insane to me.”

The stand your ground law had nothing to do with this case. And anyone saying so is just using this to further their agenda for gun control. According to Zimmerman he was punched and being held on the ground while being beaten.

Stand your ground is good because: People that were assaulted or mugged or had their house broken into, if they shot the perp, would be tried and conviced of homicide. Why? Cause if there were any way to retreat, or if the prosecution could convince a jury that there might have been any way to retreat, then you’re up the proverbial creek.

BTW, you being in NY you shouldn’t have anything to worry about. Aren’t guns banned there?


35 posted on 03/31/2012 12:43:14 PM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As slowly as the wheels of justice turn, it is likely that

Eric Holder will be a former attorney general well before this case (if any) ever gets off the ground. Remember: It’ll be April in about 9 more hours and the election is in early November.

I hope you're right. But knowing the left they will not stop (riots, intimidation of public officials, bounties, whatever it takes) until this zimmerman/trayvon martin thing gets fixed to their way of liking. I hope I'm wrong about that. But I highly doubt it.

36 posted on 03/31/2012 12:43:53 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Once convicted he wouldn’t stand a chance in jail, he’d be dead very soon.


37 posted on 03/31/2012 12:51:02 PM PDT by tioga
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Three points:

(1) Your characterization of the “stand your ground” law is 100% wrong. Ignorant even.

(2) That law doesn’t even apply in this situation — plain old self-defense does.

(3) Are you a troll, or just having a bad day? Seem to remember some of your posts being pretty good. Just don’t feel like checking right now. Will check back to see if the kitties pounce...


38 posted on 03/31/2012 12:51:15 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
(sighs). The uneducated and ignorant strike again.

1. First off, Stand Your Ground is irrelevant to this case. Secondly, as far as Martin being a threat goes, it may or may not be a factor. IF (we don't know, speculation) Zimmerman went back to his vehicle, then this resets the situation. Who first got into contact reach? We don't know. There's speculation and Zimmerman has one side of the story out, be we don't know.

2. No. Zimmerman did not beat Martin because he was black. He probably profiled, but that is not in of itself a crime. He probably used the term goon instead as well. This isn't a hate crime. It may or may not be a stupid crime, but not a hate crime.

3. Even if Zimmerman was a racist, it is not a crime.

4. Speculation, and poor speculation. Martin was shot in the chest. He couldn't scream for help. He was dead.

5. Even the lead investigator that night did not buy Zimmerman’s story. He wanted to file manslaughter charges against George, but he was overruled by the state’s attorney.

Leave law to the experts, not Creative Writing and Lit majors with little to no understand of the legal system or criminal procedure. The prosecutors file charges. You need what is known as probable cause to make an arrest. That's a standard slightly below preponderance of the evidence, but higher than reasonable suspicion. Zimmerman was detained, taken to the station and released. Good prosecutors go farther and don't arrest unless they think they can prove charges beyond a reasonable doubt. What the DA's decision tells me is that he thinks they can not prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt. If that's the case, don't make the arrest. The justice system should not be used for political decisions or gripes from outsider idiots and the media.

39 posted on 03/31/2012 12:53:33 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: tioga

Agreed. Once he is convicted(an absolute certainty) the authorities will have to put him in isolation.


40 posted on 03/31/2012 12:53:42 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; Scoutmaster
A review of the statute

(http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html)

puts the lie to every word uttered in this article and should ease your anxieties.

My thanks to scoutmaster for initially bringing the link to the statute to my attention.


41 posted on 03/31/2012 12:55:47 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That’s not the stand your ground law. You have a reasonable fear (in the eyes of the jury, and preferably the cops and prosecutor as well) of your life and/or great bodily harm. All that the stand your ground law removes is the initial duty to retreat.


42 posted on 03/31/2012 12:56:28 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

OK, I bothered to look. You seem to be a solid freeper, so I’ll spend a little time educating you about “stand your ground.” Short version: It simply means you don’t have a duty to retreat if you REASONABLY believe that you are in danger of serious bodily injury or death. Rather, you can stand your ground and defend yourself. It’s an affirmative defense, and if push comes to shove, you must prove the REASONABLENESS of your belief in the threat. Just like with plain old self-defense, you must REASONABLY believe that your are in danger before defending yourself.

I’d say Zimmerman getting his head bounced off the cement ground like a basketball means he was actually in the process of getting his azz kicked and he couldn’t have retreated if he wanted to, hence “stand your ground” doesn’t even come into it.

/THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. I’m not a lawyer, I’m just up to speed on 2A issues. The entire point of the LSM and race pimps bringing “stand your ground” into this is so they can attack our rights. See my tag...


43 posted on 03/31/2012 12:59:19 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: rlmorel
clearly he says "F***ing Punks" not "coons"

Makes sense given that even real racists don't use the word "coons" anymore unless talking about the furry four legged cat food thieves.

44 posted on 03/31/2012 1:02:46 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Viewing this photo, the “veil” thing makes sense. Unfortunately her commentary doesn’t.


45 posted on 03/31/2012 1:09:09 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Long term residence in the Big Sh*tty, amongst all those crazed Libroids, can make one paranoid. After all, in the Big Sh*tty, they ARE out to get you. If Mugger doesn’t, some bureaucrap will attack your pocket.

However, imagine if NYC did not have the Sullivan Law, all citizens could be armed.

As Samuel Clements observed, a mining town in the gold rush period of the West had ONE QUARTER of the crime of a comparable size city back east. Clements attributed this to the fact that all citizens were armed.


46 posted on 03/31/2012 1:09:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Domandred

Another freeper made that exact statement a few days ago, saying the last time he ever heard that uttered as an actual racial epithet was back in the Fifties...


47 posted on 03/31/2012 1:10:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: piytar

OK thanks! Finally someone explains this. The MSM (or from the crap I read) makes it out to be some kind of a “shoot person” free card or something which seemed insane to me. They kept using and are still using that word “feel”...”If you feel your life is in danger”..Then of course they connect it to Repubs. and the NRA. “Oh they can shoot anyone they feel like shooting”.


48 posted on 03/31/2012 1:11:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: piytar

Excellent tag BTW...That’s exactly what is going on in this case.


49 posted on 03/31/2012 1:14:53 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between lose and loose.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
And when I walked in this girl was there who just went ape sh*t when she saw me and screamed and ran out. Much like the “normal people” did on that old `60s show “The Munsters” when they saw Herman Munster. You know, screamed and crashed through a door.

I'm sorry, but that imagery was funny as hell!

Have you seen the movie "Tucker and Dale vs. Evil"? The plot is very similar. A bunch of college kids in the woods keep accidently killing themselves trying to run away from these two hillbillies who appear scary but are just very nice guys. It's a hysterical movie.

50 posted on 03/31/2012 1:16:32 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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