Skip to comments.Trayvon Martin shooting: Shame on the NRA and its newest poster child, George Zimmerman (Blech!)
Posted on 04/13/2012 5:44:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Officially the National Rifle Association convention is not supposed to begin until Friday, at the Americas Center of St. Louis, Mo. But really the NRA convention began Thursday in a courtroom in Sanford, Fla., its keynote speech delivered by a man in a jail jumpsuit who barely said a word.
His name is George Zimmerman and he is not just the face of the NRA in this country, he is the face of gun laws built on the fears and paranoia of the gun lovers in the NRA, the ones who have made a mockery of the Second Amendment. His name is George Zimmerman and in all the big ways he is the darling of the NRA, which wants the whole country to shoot first and ask questions later.
And if an unarmed 17-year old kid ends up dead in the street, well, thats just the cost of doing business.
Zimmerman: Another guy in America who should never have been allowed to carry a gun but sure had one the night he shot Trayvon Martin. A guy who finally got arrested for murder because a brave Florida prosecutor decided George Zimmerman wasnt allowed to hide behind one of those Stand Your Ground laws that have become a better license to kill than James Bond ever had.
Mayor Bloomberg was talking about laws like that again yesterday, one day after delivering a speech in Washington that was the biggest and best speech any major American politician has ever given on the subject of guns.
These laws are vigilantism masquerading as self-defense, and getting 25 states to pass them is one of the best con jobs the NRAs leaders have ever pulled off, Bloomberg said. They dont give a damn whether innocent people are shot and killed. And they dont give a damn about the integrity of the American justice system. They want to create a nation where disputes are settled by guns instead of gavels, and where suspects are shot by civilians instead of arrested by police. These laws destabilize our justice system, they degrade our society, and they destroy innocent lives. We cant be silent and we cant let them stand.
And here is what Bloomberg said on Wednesday at the National Press Club, on the day when he and national African-American leaders announced a new partnership to reform or repeal shoot-first laws now on the books in Florida and 24 other states:
The NRAs leaders werent interested in public safety. They were interested in promoting a culture where people take the law into their own hands and face no consequences for it. Lets call that by its real name: vigilantism.
(VIDEO AT LINK)
The moral of this sad debacle is that when the president and AG of a country are punk racist black thugs, a white hispanic cannot shoot a black punk thug in self defense and expect justice.
It’s like a Jew killing a nazi party member, and expecting a fair trial.
If the New York weenies think they will have any influence whatsoever on Arizona’s gun laws, I can give them a good deal on some oceanfront property in Ajo.
No I don’t think this is a cause the NRA should stand their ground with. There was some poor judgement on Zimmerman’s part. He didn’t do everything within his power to avoid this.
I looked at the link to try to find comments. I did not see any. Has anyone else seen comments there? Does the New York Daily News allow them?
Hey, what’s that little A in my tagline?
They hate self-defense. People who can defend themselves don’t depend on government as much.
Florida has issued over 1 million carry permits since 1987 and we have a 40 year low in our crime rate. How’s your city’s stats compare Bloomberg?
Since you were obviously an eyewitness, you should call the Sanford police department ASAP and tell them what you saw!!
And without a gun, we know Martin would have eventually quit slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete?
Without a gun, Zimmerman may have actually died.
” He didnt do everything within his power to avoid this.”
There is so much misinformation on this case it is really impossible at present to make that judgement, but I guess if he was going to “do everything in his power” he would have just called 911 and gone home.
He took a gun on neighborhood watch. He knew what he was up against. His record of scores of 911 calls attests to that.
Some sort of club would have been more appropriate. It is visible mostly non-lethal and would have been a visual deterrent. All he took was a concealed weapon. He didn’t want anyone to know he was armed.
That is the judgement angle.
George Michael Zimmerman, born Oct. 5, 1983, registered as a Democrat in Seminole County, Fla., in August 2002, according to state voter registration documents.
How much do you want to bet that that mumbling attorney for Trayvon’s parents would’ve used “Stand Your Ground” to defend little Trayvon if he’d killed Zimmerman on that sidewalk?
HE WASN”T ON NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH!! He was on his way to the store! Maybe you should read up on this case before you pontificate on it. I suppose you think he said “f***ing c**n too?”
“Some sort of club would have been more appropriate.”
Some sort of club? What sort of club can protect you from being blind sided, the club taken from you and you being beaten to death with your own “protection”?
when was the last time u got your ass kicked?...I think u need a good one!.....*G*
That's me, but I still carry at times.
you wanna hope nobody iss packing when u intervene with your damn club!!!.......lol....U don't get it yet do ya!...u gotta quit smokin that shit in the barn!
A CLUB??? Ok...I think I will hang on to my weapon of choice, and you golf with yours. Geez???
“he didn’t want anyone to know he was armed.”
If he carries a gun he is required by law to carry it concealed, but as well as knowing exactly what happend, you are also a mind reader.
It is even possible that he forgot he even had the gun on him. I carry a small gun similar to the Kel-Tec he had and occasionally I forget to leave it in the car when I go into the post office.
Florida is not a traditional open carry state.
Open Carry is lawful while engaged in, or going directly to and from, lawful Target Shooting, Hunting, Fishing, and Camping expeditions. FL Statutes 790.25(3)(h), (j), and (k)
Being blind sided the big IF. http://bcclist.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-path.jpg
I only carry 4-5 days a week.........
I leave it up to the punks to figure out what days....*W*
Lupica is a coward, he doesn't allow any comments to his articles.
You need to read VERY VERY carefully my next sentence, you and all the panty-wetters on FR who are caterwauling about this:
Even though Neighborhood Watch is a damned Federal program, they have NO AUTHORITY to tell me what I can do in my own neighborhood.
That point aside, Zimmerman had EVERY RIGHT to carry a gun. Anywhere he wants. That is the core of the 2nd Amendment. Moreover, he got the state's concealed carry license.
Is this a freaking liberal debating society? Or am I actually having to defend the 2nd Amendment on FR!?
What a bummer.
Even those old images of a baby face are completely at odds with the more recent pictures of that gold toothed, tattoo covered, self described 'No Limit Ni**a' Gangsta-Wanna-be, black punk thug.
All persons of authority have something visual. Cops and soldiers have uniforms. To the kid(who appears to be new to the neighborhood) it appears he was being challenged buy a rube. A ball bat in Zimmerman’s hand likely would have mitigated the attack.
Nope, I’ll bet Zimmerman himself would tell you if he knew how this would turn out he would have done some things differently. Zimmerman wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer and he didn’t manage his risk. $hit happens.
Why are you intentionally being contentious on this point?
HE WAS NOT ON NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH DUTY THAT NIGHT.
HE HAS A RIGHT TO CARRY CONCEALED ESPECIALLY IN HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD
Are you stupid or something?
Are you one of his neighbors? How do you know how “sharp” he is? He was a mortgage and insurance analyst and underwriter. Not exactly ditch-digging or burger-flipping.
This says a great deal about how sure he is of his ability to defend his writing.
If someone does not allow comments, they are not worth reading.
Overtly challenging the kid while carrying concealed is a big NO NO. That’s where he went wrong in my opinion.
Did he carry while on official neighborhood watch duty?
From his 911 log it looks as if he was frustrated, and maybe fed-up with his town’s law enforcement(or lack thereof).
There is some culpability here.
F’n MSM turned it into zoo. It’s too late for an equitable outcome now.
its keynote speech delivered by a man in a jail jumpsuit who barely said a wordThe left is busy piling on the public convictions (not charges, convictions) against this man.
This is the latest.
And this one is a pure thoughtcrime.
Of which he is guilty, by definition, without any chance of appeal or rebuttal, by definition.
This is pure Stalinism in action. This is 1984 as non-fiction.
This is not as bad as it gets, but it's on a fast track getting there.
Its like a Jew killing a nazi party member, and expecting a fair trial.Correct. And you have an excellent tagline.
If someone does not allow comments, they are not worth reading.Yup.
“A ball bat in Zimmermans hand likely would have mitigated the attack.”
“Overtly challenging the kid”
You can’t have it both ways. IMO if some one is carrying a ball bat that is overtly challenging. If they have a concealed weapon it is not an overt threat. Again you have no idea who challenged who. Hopefully we will find the truth in the court room.
I don't think they are. It's only the loony left and ratbag right that are trying to associate them.
a new black guy in the neighborhood.....6'2”...wearing a hoodie...walking between houses after dark and not on the sidewalk...nothing suspicious there!...
Black guy feels threatened and challenged by some local white rube watching and following him....That's normal! (its called being dissed in the “hood”)
Rube approaches with a stick....Black guy pulls his heat and greases the white rube....that's normal in the hood too...but so much for your theory of mitigating the attack...lol...
(PS...just a friendly word of advise in other matters.....Don't ever play any games of chance that requires a reasonable understanding of odds....I think you'd suck at ‘em!...*W*)
How many times should he have his head pounded into the concrete before it would have been enough?
“the ones who have made a mockery of the Second Amendment”
If this writer believed in the 2nd amendment before it was purportedly made a mockery of, or in any condition for that matter, I’ll eat my hat.
I wouldn't touch that bet. He might still use it to justify him attacking GZ.
Did you see his face when Treyvon's mom said it was probably an accident on the Today show? Hilarious!
“Lets call that by its real name: vigilantism.”
If you want to call self-defense under limited circumstances vigilantism, fine, I believe in vigilantism. Better a nation of vigilantes than a nation waiting around for the cops to save them. You’ll wait yourself into the grave.
“All he took was a concealed weapon. He didnt want anyone to know he was armed.”
Uh, yeah, that’s what “conceal and carry” means. Surely open carry has greater deterrent effect, but what are you saying? That anyone who doesn’t brandish their gun isn’t doing everything in their power to avoid being assaulted? That it’s somehow okay to beat up on people who aren’t carrying visible weapons? I really don’t get it.
Zimmerman could have been charged for `brandishing’ a firearm, if he had been waving it around.
The story I’ve read is he didn’t pull it until Martin attacked him.
Moral? If you don’t want to get shot, don’t attack guys smaller than you because you consider yourself a `No_limit_nigga.’
“A ball bat in Zimmermans hand likely would have mitigated the attack.”
People being down on him for provocative following I can understand. It’s plain wrong, but I understand why people might come to that conclusion. As for your loopiness, I can’t understand where you’re coming from. Zimmerman should have been wielding a bat? He invited attack by lack of implied threat? I’ve got it: how about after 6pm it’s mandatory for all citizens wishing to walk the streets to carry a locked and loaded shotgun at average eye level. That should cut down on beatings, though possibly shotgun-related deaths will shoot up.