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Trayvon Martin and race: Humans can't make progress until we move past stereotypes and prejudice
The Syracuse Post-Standard ^ | April 30, 2012 | Cole Thorna, H.S. Sophomore

Posted on 04/30/2012 12:05:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"George Zimmerman claims that Martin attacked him. "

From the New York Post, April 21, 2012:

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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/bloody_pix_could_be_zim_ace_in_hole_WcceZ5d51K70JLhtRavPAM

51 posted on 04/30/2012 4:09:49 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ain’t that cute?


52 posted on 04/30/2012 4:10:42 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stereotypes are simply the center of the bell curve but when your only defense is denial the term has to be vilified.


53 posted on 04/30/2012 4:11:05 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: dixiechick2000; All
What I don’t like is the race baiters who are using them.

Organizations exploit Trayvon Martin incident to push their COMMUNIST agenda
various sources | self

Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:22:38 AM by ETL

Link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2864372/posts

54 posted on 04/30/2012 4:12:58 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon Martin did not deserve to die.

The writer lost me with that statement. The world would be a better place if all thuggish individuals of all races would be killed.


55 posted on 04/30/2012 4:13:16 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stereotypes are simply the center of the bell curve but when your only defense is denial the term has to be vilified.


56 posted on 04/30/2012 4:15:53 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I remember being young, and my writing making the town newspaper....it was how Jimmy Carter was an incompetent boob during the Iran Hostage Crisis.

I guess if Winston Churchill's saying is true (anyone who's 20 and not a liberal has no heart, anyone who's 40 and not a conservative has no brain), then I was pretty heartless in high school.

57 posted on 04/30/2012 4:17:25 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon Martin did not deserve to die.

Well, not until he finished killing Zimmerman at least. Then he may have had some 'splainin' to do.

58 posted on 04/30/2012 4:24:55 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would like to add to the title of this thread
"by ridding the country of liberals and progressives"
They are the ones who constantly use the race/class card.
59 posted on 04/30/2012 4:32:48 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
. . I’m a white kid already a voluntary zek, so some may argue that the gravity of the situation is somewhat facts of the incident and their Constitutional/statutory implications are lost on me. .

The good news is: This ignorant child is only one or two beat-downs away from acquiring a realistic worldview.

60 posted on 04/30/2012 4:37:55 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“....stereotypes and prejudice..”

R E A L L Y !!!!!!!!

As in:

• ALL white Americans are RICH?
• ALL white Americans are RICH because they stole money from other people!
• No non minority Americans have EVER experienced exploitation, prejudice, oppression, unethical hiring practices, etc.
• All non minority Americans came to this country from a place where they were prosperous, accepted and free
• ALL non minority Americans HATE all minority Americans?

ETC….ETC…..R E A L L Y??????

Excuse me while I throw up, now.


61 posted on 04/30/2012 4:49:43 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is no doubt in my mind that this was a racially motivated murder....

Even if Martin really did attack Zimmerman,

Well it is good to know that this 15 year old has no doubt in his mind and he pronounces George Zimmerman guilty.

The public school has no capacity to teach critical thinking.

In all fairness to this young kid, I read very similar diatribes on FR, by indignant white guilt-sufferers, when this story first started being pimped by the msm {and you know who you are}.

62 posted on 04/30/2012 5:05:36 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

—Humans can’t make progress until we move past stereotypes and prejudice—

Stated like a true utopian.

Maybe this would school the author:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dwz_Z62e0s


63 posted on 04/30/2012 5:14:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So lets see....human beings have held prejudices for ALL of our history. Yet, according to the author, we should have made no “progress”. Hmmm......

The human brain (or any brain) is basically a big statistical calculator. We learn rules from observation and use those rules to discriminate and make judgements. That’s just how people work. Anyone who denies this does not understand didly. In fact, the whole point of Liberalism is to put feelings above reality—much like a child does.


64 posted on 04/30/2012 5:16:10 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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The ugly Tide of Racism will begin to receed when violence-texting 6 Ft 3 "youts" stop beating old guys into the concrete, looking for money to buy more gold teeth and $ 500 tennis shoes ...


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65 posted on 04/30/2012 5:17:10 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"There is no doubt in my mind that this was a racially motivated murder."

Ah, youth. To be excused for being an imbecile. Hence, "sophomoric."

66 posted on 04/30/2012 5:18:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: aquila48

—Truly sophomoric.—

In the beginning, when this thing went national, most articles attacking Zimmerman were sophomoric. Now, with the evidence available to us, ALL of them are. Every. Single. One.

They have to so contort and ignore facts to support their meme that their printed words make them look, well, stupid.


67 posted on 04/30/2012 5:26:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: MuttTheHoople; 2ndDivisionVet
I guess if Winston Churchill's saying is true (anyone who's 20 and not a liberal has no heart, anyone who's 40 and not a conservative has no brain), then I was pretty heartless in high school.

Interesting remark -- Cole Thorna is a sophomore at Nottingham High School in Syracuse, and that hugh school is right in the lap of Syracuse U, the home of the Maxwell School Dept. of Political science, as well as a prominent School of Education. Syracuse no doubt has great influence on this high school and its administration (left-leaning?).

Thus it is not unlikely that Nottingham High, being close enough to city center to be the focus of intensive busing, has enough resources to educate some fools of the first water. Like this little sophomore, who presumptuously writes:

Trayvon Martin did not deserve to die.

If it becomes clear that Trayvon intended to permanently damage the brain case of someone by whom he felt a bit "dissed," it is also clear that he did deserve to die, at that moment and on that spot, without further excuse for reserving summary judgment.

Hope this gets through to Cole Thorna. Do we have any FReepers from Syracuse who might wish to answer Cole's blog, or perhaps drop him a line encouraging doing some research before offering the global population his keen teenaged insight?

A pointed note might help to wipe that silly Alfred E. Neumann grin from his face. And of his parents, too.

68 posted on 04/30/2012 5:27:20 AM PDT by imardmd1 (The truth shall make you, if not free, at least reasonable ...)
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To: USS Alaska

I think it’s a clarion call for lazy submissive people to reclaim their past warrior culture. There isn’t a soul alive who can’t trace their history back to someone who stood a wall, pike in hand, or walked into a cave with torch and spear because his family needed the shelter more than the cave bear did.

I’ve been a martial arts instructor, and there’s basics a person could learn in a few weeks. All the hard work is between the ears. Have you ever seen a hypnotist have a subject under trance break boards, when they would break their hand if they tried it awake? We disarm ourselves with fear, even our minds have been altered by our culture to assume submissiveness. “Their” culture, though twisted otherwise, does not.

You see the results with your own eyes.

Other instructors start with how to block, how to fall, how to slip, dodge, evade...defense, defense, defense.

I always started with newbies by telling them “OK, I’m going to teach you how to mug people”...just to joggle their brain out of this victim mode. Some looked as fearful at this suggestion, that one might have thought I said I was about to mug them. It ends up the tragedy is people are willing to be victimized, and the will, not magic tricks, is the meat of the matter.

We do enable thugs when we have no warrior core; it’s like having alarms against burglars, but leaving a wide open door ;^)


69 posted on 04/30/2012 5:42:50 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stopped reading at “self-appointed neighborhood watch”


70 posted on 04/30/2012 6:00:23 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another self-loathing liberal wracked with “Born While Being
White” Syndrome....


71 posted on 04/30/2012 6:11:47 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Joe Boucher

More collectivist propaganda - note carefully, the boy is a modern day image of Huck Finn.

Also, note the supersized mouth, from which spewed the Regime’s racist meme.

Now, Huck has been morphed into Jim.

Slavery mentality. Yassah, Massah!


72 posted on 04/30/2012 6:44:50 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
The ugly Tide of Racism

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
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SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology."

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml
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“Although it [The New Black Panther Party] says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and “revolution” as the solution, the new party does not draw its influences from Marxism or Maoism as the original party did. Instead, in a carefully-worded, roundabout form of ethnic nationalism,[8] they say that Marx based his ideology and teachings on indigenous African cultures, and that the NBPP therefore need not look to Marxism or Maoism as a basis for their program, but can look to ideologies that stem directly from those African origins.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party#Philosophy.2C_ideology.2C_and_criticism
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"The Justice Department originally brought the case against four armed men who witnesses say derided voters with catcalls of "white devil" and "cracker" and told voters they should prepare to be "ruled by the black man." ..."

One poll watcher called police after he reportedly saw one of the men brandishing a nightstick to threaten voters.

As I walked up, they closed ranks, next to each other,” the witness told Fox News at the time. “So I walked directly in between them, went inside and found the poll watchers. They said they’d been here for about an hour. And they told us not to come outside because a black man is going to win this election no matter what.”

He said the man with a nightstick told him, “’We’re tired of white supremacy,’ and he starts tapping the nightstick in his hand. At which point I said, ‘OK, we’re not going to get in a fistfight right here,’ and I called the police.”...”

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?id=48778&letter_id=5485433306

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110408/content/01125111.guest.html
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"Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU
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Also see:

Black Panthers intimidate voters in Philadelphia with night stick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzBVxP5wzCY

73 posted on 04/30/2012 7:13:16 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Shock Photos: Candidate Obama Appeared And Marched With New Black Panther Party in 2007:
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/10/03/shock-photos-barack-obama-with-new-black-panther-party-on-campaign-trail-in-2007/

74 posted on 04/30/2012 7:13:54 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: digital-olive; Sea Parrot
If I ate a dog, it would look like Obama’s.

Obama's new campaign slogan: "A Dog in Every Pot"

75 posted on 04/30/2012 7:17:04 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GladesGuru
Since society only cares about white-on-black violence, George Zimmerman should demand that the charges be dropped on the grounds that he is of African descent himself through his Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather.

This kid thinks that Martin would have been justified in shooting Zimmerman for the crime of following him. That's exactly what he was trying to do when he was shot, but with Zimmerman's gun.

76 posted on 04/30/2012 8:06:51 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A witless tool at best. An agent of evil more likely.


77 posted on 04/30/2012 12:33:45 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Probably the same ttime I was loading my M577 Light Tracked Command Post Carrier and other vehicles onto railroad flatcars to invade Iran.


78 posted on 04/30/2012 2:54:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Sea Parrot

Free of charge. It’s not mine anyway.


79 posted on 04/30/2012 8:44:14 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Norm Lenhart

My mother is so light skinned that should she be on the beach, under the pier, and clothed head to toe with long sleeves, she would quickly become a crispy critter.

Thankfully, I have my daddy’s skin.

“Spot”...it was a well deserved lesson. lol


80 posted on 05/02/2012 12:54:26 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000

It was indeed. But then again you gotta be a special kind of crazy to marry an Irish/German redhead to begin with. The combination of tempers is a thing to behold. Preferably at great distance ;)


81 posted on 05/02/2012 1:29:07 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Omigosh!

Tempers on steroids! lol

Bless your heart...you are a good man.

A very, very patient, and good man. ;o)


82 posted on 05/02/2012 11:54:17 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon Martin did not deserve to die.

It depends on how one defines "deserve".Given Zimmerman's bloody head it certainly looks like he could have reasonably believed that the kid "had" to die."Self defense" is an *absolutely* legitimate defense against a murder charge.

83 posted on 05/04/2012 8:15:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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