Skip to comments.What If Trayvon's Case Had Been About Rape?
Posted on 05/27/2012 10:01:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The blame-the-victim treatment isn't right in sexual assault. It's not right in killings, either.
Consider this scenario: Aroused by an attractive teenager in a halter top walking through his neighborhood, a Sanford, Fla., man was instructed to stand down by police, but instead he provoked an encounter that ended tragically with the assault and rape of the 17-year-old girl.
After showing authorities scratches on his face and arms that he claimed were inflicted by the rape victim, the pursuer was promptly released by the local police chief that night after discussions with the detained man's father, who is a retired judge.
This scenario, minus the complicating race factor, approximates the rough outline of what we've learned about George Zimmerman's encounter with Trayvon Martin on Feb. 26. Contrary to distracting media accounts, the "Stand your ground" law is clearly not applicable to Zimmerman here because he ignored police instructions and advanced on Trayvon's ground. The ordinance may well apply instead to the victim's reaction to a man moving toward him with a Kel-Tec PF-9 9 mm pistol.
Though the hypothetical rape tragedy described here is not lethal, as it was in Trayvon's case, the "arousal" motive is similar, the execution approximate; and the behavior by officials should be no less troubling to those concerned about judicial fairness in a civil society.
Cops in both the real and hypothetical cases gave the aroused pursuer the benefit of every doubt and, in the Trayvon incident, initially dismissed the victim's defenders as frivolous petitioners, lacking the attacker's connection to city hall and police headquarters....
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I have no idea who Les Payne is, but he sounds nuts.
Mr. Payne, don’t quit your night job.
I’d have to think long and hard before I came up with that analogy. Even then, I’m not sure that my mind works that way.
Tried to follow but brain can’t get there.
Trialkby press.hat about the due process rights of the “accused” and the presumption of innocence?
This is more propaganda fodder to enflame the so called “downtroden” into the riot stage for Obama’s anarchists.
Of course this is a well known tactic, used by other fascists out of history. Look no further than the Dreyfus case in France, or at the work of Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler. There is no difference in what they did to destroy the rule of law and subsitute it for totalitarian values, and what the Obama movement is doing today.Joseph Goebbels is their primer.
A prelude to race riots and possible civil war.
Welcome to the prelude to the United States of Zimbabwe.
Possibly one of the most vile pile of excerements I’ve read in a long time...
If Zimmerman was attempting rape, why would not ring the police. If the victim was a girl, Zimmerman would not be fearing for his life. If the victim was a girl, the girl would not approach Zimmerman if someone was stalking her
what if TM was carrying 2 blunts and a bunch of pot?
afraid he’d get caught, since he already has priors, TM decides to attack GZ, beat him up, and make his escape? after all, GZ is a hispanic male who is only 5’9” and TM is at least 6’2”... should be easy to kick GZ’s ass
sound familiar? it should. it’s how many crimes involving blacks and another race turn out
There would be an analogy if Zimmerman had robbed Martin. Or if he had killed him for the thrill of it.
If the writer is going to play with that dubious thing the analogy he ought to practice with it a while before he takes it out in public.
The author neglects to mention the rash of burglaries by attractive teenagers in halter tops, which had plagued the neighborhood prior to the imagined rape.
Silly me. That’s how I thought the article was going when I clicked on the headline. It really is amazing what we are up against when I see the “logic” attempted in this article. Hard to imagine a world-view so skewed.
Perverted logic, man.
Oh, I get it! These stories you are finding tonight...they are all potential jurors! Right?
Bullshit! Where’s the barf bag warning?
Being scratched doesn't excuse rape but it does give evidence of being attacked.
Are we talking rape or rape-rape?
“If it was a girl who was victim ( armed ) and Trayvon was the rapist then the ending would be the same.”
Exactly, he intentionally confuses the victim with the assailant. He conveniently assumes that just because Trayvon was killed, he was the victim. All the evidence that has come out thus far seem to indicate that the opposite is true, i.e. that Trayvon was the assailant, and the fact that he was killed doesn’t morph him into a victim.
His analogy falls flat from the get go. From the point where he equates a harmless girl with a justifiably (based on earlier events in the neighborhood) suspicious character and then he compounds his error by changing Zimmerman from the defender to the assailant.