What If Trayvon's Case Had Been About Rape?

The Root ^ | May 28, 2012 | Les Payne

[SWAMPSNIPER]

I tried to post, looks like they discourage debate.

[dr_lew]

It’s “a hundred and eighty degrees out of phase”.

Z is in a position analogous to a woman who has shot and killed an alleged assailant.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Debate? What’s there to debate? White Hispanic George “Skinhead” Zimmerman profiled, hunted down and executed Trayvon “10 year old choirboy” Martin, PERIOD! Just ask Big Al or Mumbling Ben.

[Berlin_Freeper]

What If Trayvon’s Case Had Been About Cannibalism?

[No One Special]

aka Less Pain

[MaxMax]

Hypothetical is how innocent people end up in prison when prosecutors don't have a case.
Zimmerman screwed up when he talked to the DA after his attorney told him not to
and they read him as someone who would plead to get out of it. Never talk to the police, EVER!

This straw man is missing a hat.

[zencycler]

Here's how the analogy should work:

A 28 year old hispanic female who was routinely on neighborhood watch noticed a black teenager lurking about, and reported it to authorities. The authorities instructed her to stop following him, which she did.

But it was too late. The black teen, who had noticed her watching him, confronted her, asked her "Do you have a problem", to which she replied "no". He then lunged at her saying - "well you do now, cause I'm gonna knock you out and then rape your white ass"

He then punched her in the nose, pinned her done, and began pounding her head to the ground, and started to pull down his trousers. While doing this, he noticed the gun she was carrying by her waist. He went to grab for it, but she got to it first, and fired one fatal bullet through his heart.

Witnesses on the scene, along with the bruises and bleeding on her head, supported her claims of self defense in this shooting.

So now, anyone think SHE should have been arrested, simply because she shot someone?

[jospehm20]

That is the way i see it. Mr. Zimmerman is the one who was assaulted and he defended himself.

[tdscpa]

Trayvon was lynched.

[windcliff]

Lol

[corlorde]

Imagine if you will Mr. Payne if let us say a black female was on neighborhood watch and saw an unfamiliar white person wearing a tea party shirt walking through the ‘hood and she called the police and said “I think we have a white boy lost in the hood actin’ suspicious.” The police dispatcher then advised her to hold tight but she followed anyway. The next thing you know, the white guy was seen on top of the black female violently bashing her head into the ground “MMA style” and she, by the grace of god had a concealed carry permit and exercised her right of self defense and she fired one round and close range (after screaming for help) killing the white person.

See, Mr. Payne, it is easy to play this game.

[The Working Man]

Contrary to distracting media accounts, the “Stand your ground” law is clearly not applicable to Zimmerman here because he ignored police instructions and advanced on Trayvon’s ground. The ordinance may well apply instead to the victim’s reaction to a man moving toward him with a Kel-Tec PF-9 9 mm pistol.

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Well! Talk about twisting the known facts in the case. But I can be pretty well assured that the real facts are indeed the opposite of everything that is in this sentence.

And the part about moving toward Martin with a pistol. It is subtly presented here as Zimmerman holding the pistol in his hand instead of concealed in it’s holster.

The writer must have done very well in his creative writing/journalism course.

[trebb]

So, if a "hottie" in a halter top attacks you, and tries to scratch your eyes out, you have to just stand and take it....

You know these folks, trying to twist things to come up with a "logical" reason why geaorge is guilty, are just sick at heart when they see how much twisting they have to do to come up with something that makes no sense. They all know George was defending himself, Trayvon took actions that got him killed, and they keep on wishing it wasn't so - it makes them see a bit of reality through the sickness and they can't stand reality.

[arasina]

Author Les Payne: causes more pain to readers of his illogical tripe.

[JudgemAll]

Trayvon’s ground? What?

Point is Trayvon was the major source of reasonable suspicion, probable cause and interference throughout this ordeal.

A 911 operator NOT on the scene is not the final manager and decider or responsible “REMOTE CONTROL” operator of what was going on.

This whole case is completely stupid except that self defense laws are being under attack because no one should investigate or be in the know than the government, according to these loonies.

There is something called balance of powers and citizens arrest for a good reason.

This should be a civil issue between government and their hiring system, not a criminal issue.

However, a criminal bullying inquiry is needed in order to create the shakedown.

[rogue yam]

This is insane.

Why would the aroused man have been on the phone with the cops?

[FreedomPoster]

You have violated posting protocol by not placing a barf alert in parentheses after the title.

Now I have to clean off my keyboard.

[MortMan]

To be commensurate with this analogy, Trayvon would have to had provided oral and then mounted Zimmerman. Only after the money shot would Trayvon have claimed rape.

The entire premise is stinking bovine excrement.

[Oztrich Boy]

Well Aileen Carol Wuornos got the needle.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

According to Dee Dee (the girl Trayvon was allegedly talking to on his cell phone during the incident), Trayvon made it home to his father's apartment, then went back out to confront Zimmerman.

That makes Trayvon the instigator.

All the evidence points toward Trayvon being the aggressor

• It took Trayvon 40 minutes to walk the distance between the 7-11 and the Clubhouse because he paused to roll the blunts, and maybe smoke one.
• Black urban street kids familiar with the kind of lifestyle Trayvon led DO NOT run from “white-Hispanic” dude strangers sitting in pick-up trucks.
• Trayvon thought GZ was security, or a cop, and that’s why he walked over and checked out the car.
• After circling the SUV Trayvon took off running to ditch any contraband either at home, or nearby.
• He probably made it home because he told DeeDee on the phone he was “at his dads house”.
• After he ditched the contraband, he told DeeDee “he was not running” no more and went to confront the guy he saw getting out of his truck.
• Trayvon prepared by putting his loose items in his pockets readying himself for a confrontation if needed.
• Trayvon headed back up the pathway toward the “T” where the sidewalks meet, near witness “John’s” townhouse.
• When he saw Zimmerman he began the conversation by saying “hey man, what the f**k’s your problem, what the f**k you looking at”?
• It went downhill from there.