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The McCain-Palin administration: a 4-year trip to the paler side of purgatory (In their heads 24/7)
AllVoices ^ | June 9, 2012 | Veronica Roberts

Posted on 06/09/2012 7:37:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What would the U.S. look like if McCain/Palin had won the presidency in '08?

Christianity 101, drilled into me through 10 years of Catholic schools from elementary to high school: Heaven and Hell, respectively, are places to work towards entering joyously and avoiding at all costs. Purgatory was that ambiguous place where souls not quite pure as the driven snow yet not as dark as the devil's--went to "dry out." Think of it as rehab for the slightly sinful before they could be rehabilitated into Heaven. Purgatory comes to mind envisioning a John McCainJohn McCain and Sarah PalinSarah Palin victory. The mental picture resurrects these old teachings that I have long abandoned, for I am too sinful for two of those places according to some on the religious right.

You see I believe in equal marriage rights for all; I believe in women's reproductive rights; I believe we all have a right to our religous or non-religious lives; I believe in separation of church and state; I believe every human being has a right to life therefore a right to medical care; I believe in equal wages for equal work regardless of sex; I believe that workers rights should be protected; I believe in fair taxation; I believe in true democracy where government is of the people, by the people for the people; I believe all the world's wealth concentrated in the hands of a few is obscene.

See, my lists of "sins" are endlessly long and qualify me for the deepest of damnations. The odd couple and their party who competed for the presidency almost four years ago do not believe in any of those things. What would Amercia--oops sorry--had a Romney moment. I mean what would America look like now if those two had been at the helm?

Scary movies and nightmares have never been my forte, so I shudder to think what the view of U.S. lanscape would have been. McCain, of the old school, "do as I order or else" would have sent an already tumultuous Middle East into an explosive powder keg. Could you imagine him dealing with Iran and encouraging Israel to do whatever it takes to protect its sovereignty, even if that meant outright war without negotiations explored further? Which brings us to what Vice President Palin would have contributed to the office. Could you imagine her in a room with Russia's Putin? She might not be able to resist asking him if he could see her house from his backyard. Her foreign policy knowlege is sort of equal to a fifth-grader's (sorry fifth-graders), so forget embarrassing geographical moments: It might have been dowright dangerous to unleash her to any dealings on a global scale.

Our current VP, Biden, is a loose cannon sometimes but at least his gaffes are containable. Things like "the president has a big stick" elicits widespread laughter but will not incite an international incident.

Then again we do not know if the former governor who bailed on her duties in her Alaska to take up being an author/pundit and reality star, would have lasted for the required four years, for we now know that she has a penchant for quitting midstream. Furthermore, Palin was heard on her TLC reality show saying she loved the outdoors and would rather shoot a moose, fish or kayak, than be in "a stuffy Washington office."

Then there is Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and America's most wanted man, Osama bin Laden. The Republicans can't bring themselves to genuinely give President Obama his props for nailing the most notorious terrorist, but they couldn't get him for seven years, and I doubt if McCain would have had any more success than befuddled George W. Bush.

McCain thinks we should still be actively fighting in Iraq so you already know what he would have done under his presidency. Wars and more wars fought on more and more credit which puts us into more and more debt yet he preaches fiscal responsibility. I guess fiscal conservatism only applies when it comes to programs that help the poor and elderly.

For all Palin's pandering on death panels for the elderly, the GOP's ideology would hurt the aging population more than anything President Obama has proposed in the Affordable Healthcare Act. Under a McCain-Palin leadership, budget cuts would have certainly affected those who needed assistence most for we see who there are targeting now. Medicare, Medicaid. programs that assist with college tuititons like Pell Grants, healthcare, housing, unemployment benefits and feeding the poor.

If you think things are bad today, what would it have looked like when the odd couple slashed all these programs? More homeless and hungry when the unemployed are told to fend for themselves with no safety measures; non-existent healthcare coverage means sickness and overflowing emergency rooms; programs that help feed the needy drastically reduced; less kids going to college means youth unemployment would continue to rise. I could go on and on for the ripple effect would have been enormous but I'm sure you get the picture.

Meanwhile, Wall Street and big banks would be enjoying their bailouts with not an iota of regulations. For all the loud cymbals clashing on the GOP side, they would have bailed out the banks just like Obama did but without pulling the reigns on that out-of-control "mob." After-all, free market is the cornerstone of their sermon and see this as unfettered "grazing" by the corporate world. Big oil, big banks, big private sector should be free to "police" themselves, trusted to be "good capitalists."

The Bush-era tax breaks are still in place under Obama so you know they would have been etched into the Constitution under McCain-Palin. Forget fightng to renew those cushy "welfare for the wealthy" tax breaks every two years. It would have had a permanent seal of approval by now and Grover Norquist's pledge would have been engraved in the Oval Office.

A permanent state of purgatory for the poor souls of the land. But hey, that's better than that socialist, communist, Muslim, Kenyan-born radical Barack Hussein Obama guy trying to preach that corny "hopey change" thing to the masses, right? As the VP Palin would say, "You betcha!"

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Veronica Roberts is based in New York City, New York, United States of America, and is an Anchor for Allvoices.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: barf; homosexualagenda; mccain; obama; palin

1 posted on 06/09/2012 7:37:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What no BARF alert


2 posted on 06/09/2012 7:45:54 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Saturday evening barf bait?


3 posted on 06/09/2012 7:47:02 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: riverrunner

Great minds think alike.


4 posted on 06/09/2012 7:48:16 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Communists cant get Palin out of their heads. They are so scared shitless that one day she will run and win that they are just scared to death. If Obama loses in November they know their progressive utopian society is dead


5 posted on 06/09/2012 7:48:16 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

as stupid as this is, wouldnt it STIL be preferable to the morons in charge now?


6 posted on 06/09/2012 7:52:08 PM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: riverrunner
Just another lapsed Catholic thinking that a standard issue model Evangelical (McCain) and a drifting Holy Roller lapsed Catholic (Palin) are actually Catholics just like her ~ hunh?

Is there some other way these leftwingtard lapsed Catholics can tell us they've had abortions?

And why do they want us to know all about it.

7 posted on 06/09/2012 7:54:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sarah Barracuda

So scared they have to paint us a warped world and constantly remind themselves how cool and enlightened they are.

Had the election gone differently- we would be well on the road to recovery, energy prices would be lower, the allies would not be circling their wagons in fear and the “Arab Spring” would have started with the overthrow of the Iranian government as the people there were ready.

IMHO.


8 posted on 06/09/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Thank you.


9 posted on 06/09/2012 7:57:27 PM PDT by tommix2 (,)
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To: Mr. K

“as stupid as this is, wouldnt it STIL be preferable to the morons in charge now?”

Then you accept all this tripe? Anyone claiming to support ‘women’s reproductive rights’ is too brain-dead to be analyzing politics.


10 posted on 06/09/2012 7:57:46 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: muawiyah

Huh, indeed! McCain’s anything but “Evangelical” (ask Jerry Falwell & Pat Roberts), and one of Palin’s parents, not she, is the lapsed Catholic.


11 posted on 06/09/2012 8:00:29 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9

An Evangelical is ANY KIND OF PROTESTANT. It is not exclusively synonymous with Pentecostal or Fundy or Baptist, and you might want to check out the Time Magazine telephone interview where she, herself, asserts she was Baptised Catholic as a baby ~ http://onelacatholic.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-was-baptized-catholic-as.html


12 posted on 06/09/2012 8:12:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mach9
BTW, Falwell is dead, and the other guy has followers who have been pushing Romney on us.

Now, about McCain's religion, he was christened as a child in the Episcopal church ~ which may well mean he's not a real Christian ~ but that's a different sort of debate. What he hasn't done is undergo a form of "confirmation" (in Catholic parlance) so that he can be a member of that congregation.

He's still, according to virtually all Christian tradition, a Christian, and, philologically, an Evangelical! Still, he wouldn't have been allowed to rent a pew in George Washington's congregation until he underwent confirmation.

13 posted on 06/09/2012 8:18:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Can’t believe such a “smart” writer STILL hasn’t realized that Sarah Palin didn’t say she could see Russia from her house. Pathetic when a SNL satire is considered “canon”.


14 posted on 06/09/2012 8:37:26 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: boop
I can see DC from the roof of my house but I never watch Saturday Night Live. They haven't been humorous for a couple of decades now. Time to put the players out to pasture or something.

BTW, the writer is one of those generally uninformed about everything Leftwingtard lapsed Catholics who can't wait to shock us with the knowledge that she plays with herself and has had several abortions.

Some people need thorazine!

15 posted on 06/09/2012 8:39:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Not that it’s always (or even ever) correct, Wikipedia defines Evangelicalism: a Protestant Christian movement. It began in the 17th century and became an organized movement with the emergence around 1730 of the Methodists in England and the Pietists among Lutherans in Germany and Scandinavia. The movement became even more important—drawing far more members than in Europe—in the United States during the series of Great Awakenings of the 18th and 19th century. It continues to draw adherents globally in the 21st century, especially in the poor nations of the Third World.

It is a religious movement that de-emphasizes ritual and emphasizes the pietism of the individual, requiring him or her to meet certain active commitments, including:

The need for personal conversion (or being “born again”);
A high regard for biblical authority;
An emphasis on teachings that proclaim the saving death and resurrection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ;[1]
Actively expressing and sharing the gospel.

John McCain, I repeat, was/is not an Evangelical Christian.

And Sarah Palin, baptized a Catholic or not, never had the opportunity to “lapse.” (My sisters baptized our Jewish neighbors’ children, too; and they’re certainly not lapsed Catholics because they continued to practice Judaism.) Surely you don’t believe God is so vengeful and authoritarian as to hold children responsible for the acts of others.

Yes, I know Falwell’s dead.


16 posted on 06/09/2012 8:50:29 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen, amen, I say to thee: The stupid, it burneth.


17 posted on 06/09/2012 9:09:58 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Could you imagine her in a room with Russia's Putin?

Strangely enough. yes.

Now what do Barry or Joe have in common with Putin? Take your time.

But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, though they come from the ends of the earth!

18 posted on 06/10/2012 12:13:03 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Gott mit Mitt, Mitt mit uns)
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To: Mach9
In France, where the term 'evangelical' had already been in use for Pre~Reformation religious movements, all Protestant churches ~ then also known as Huguenots ~ were and are known as Evangelical.

Huguenots who escaped to England were accepted into the Episcopal church without further baptism. Those who went to German states became Lutherans, Baptists, et al without question. They were accepted as Presbyterians in Scotland.

For obscure reasons many modern religious spokesmen imagine that Evangelical churches first arose in the Great Awakening in America, and not earlier.

The Religious Wars were over in France by 1598 ~ and the term was in widespread use then to mean Protestant.

19 posted on 06/10/2012 1:58:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mach9
Palin was still baptised as an infant and KNOWS IT. Those guys have rules ~ which apply ~ whether or not the subject of the rules is interested.

Almost anyone could tell you that the Catholic church is not just another Protestant sect!

20 posted on 06/10/2012 2:01:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I look at people like Roberts as I would look at a not-too-bright five year old. Pat them on the head and tell them to have some cookies and milk. Or wave a shiny object in their faces to amuse them. Too dumb to be taken seriously. Think Cher or Roseanne Barr.


21 posted on 06/10/2012 3:44:30 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt Palin would’ve made a squat of difference good or bad, like Mccain would even listen to her good ideas. fantasy land here....we would still be in debt but probably 4 trillion less. we probably would still have high unemployment(because of the debt)oh, and path to citizenship, “you betcha” would be on limbaugh and hannity everyday stating how legalizing all these people would be great for the GOP. We would have had a bigger part in Lybia, and syria would be another war...but I guess if we want to daydream about a Mccain/palin administration we can look at Romney’s


22 posted on 06/10/2012 7:15:08 AM PDT by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: muawiyah

I’m not sure to whom “those guys” refers. Guessing it’s Catholics. And indeed we do have rules. Among them is the complete description of baptism which includes two non-water varieties (blood & desire) most protestants fail to recognize. More importantly, those “rules” never saddle a baby or child (or anyone without malintent) with a sin (in this case, “lapsing”) they never meant to commit—thus the illustration of my sisters’ zeal in water-baptizing (btw, they bapized all the pets, too).

I think anyone who catches the implication of the word “Protestant” realizes that the Church protested against couldn’t possibly be a member of the protest-club.

So far as the Huguenots go, you never mentioned America. South Carolina (particularly the Beaufort/Charleston area) has maintained a community for at least two centures. But I wouldn’t consider them any more evangelical than Episcopalians. Like the Episcopalians, they don’t “evangelize,” don’t publicly preach (and simplify) the gospels.


23 posted on 06/10/2012 8:15:29 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9
The Huguenot community in South Carolina is nothing compared to the Huguenot community in New York of course BUT, very importantly, they were called Evangelicals in the early 1500s, the 1600s, the 1700s, and even down to the present time ~ it didn't start in 1855, or 1755.

Currently the French government has an agency making a long term study of the lack of Evangelical churches in the Vondee (probably 'cause Louis XIV killed 'em).

As the Evangelical Huguenots evacuated France they joined Protestant groups abroad ~ of every kind.

You'll notice that I said Sarah said she was aware of her baptism as a baby. From that point on she's conscious of her choice.

Baptisms of pets don't count ~ they live in a state of grace.

24 posted on 06/10/2012 8:34:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mach9
BTW, I've made a habit of noticing stories where the leftwingtard writer goes on and on and lists the Catholics with the Evangelicals.

There are an amazingly large number of writers in the MSM who do that.

I think it suggests that they are too ignorant of Christianity to be allowed to talk about it.

25 posted on 06/10/2012 8:36:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mach9
BTW, I've made a habit of noticing stories where the leftwingtard writer goes on and on and lists the Catholics with the Evangelicals.

There are an amazingly large number of writers in the MSM who do that.

I think it suggests that they are too ignorant of Christianity to be allowed to talk about it.

26 posted on 06/10/2012 8:36:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

LOL, only you could go to such lengths to attempt spread confusion about something like American Evangelicals and Protestants.


27 posted on 06/10/2012 1:54:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

I said nothing about “American Evangelicals” but if you want to ignore history and the Huguenots when you talk about “Evangelical churches’ go right ahead. But do so knowing that you are not correct.


28 posted on 06/10/2012 1:59:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You are wrong enough for both of us with your McCain/Palin confusion.

I hope the Romney people are not going to start attacking Palin for her deep faith now.


29 posted on 06/10/2012 2:11:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I believe in women’s reproductive rights.” Translation: she believes in abortions. Why don’t the libs have the courage to state the obvious?


30 posted on 06/10/2012 5:12:32 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To paraphrase Dan Ayckroyd from one of his more memorable 'Saturday Night Live' skits: "Vagonica, you poor, misguided slut."

The authoress' interpretations (such as they are) and insights (such as they aren't) bring to mind a navel-gazing imbecile drooling on her own chest, and being amazed at her inherent genius in so doing. Drawing simile between the "Heaven" of an O'Bunghole administration and the "Purgatory" of an imagined McCain/Palin White House, drawing upon the deeply flawed and entirely man-made dictates of Catholicism's inbred mythology to support her otherwise insipid premises, both are hallmarks of the type of malignantly deluded grandeur with which these Liberal üntermensch regard themselves and each others' deplorably uninspired mumblings.

Instead of reading this trash, I would have had vastly more fun poking my own eyes out with darning needles while gargling Drano. I hope she dies slowly from an excruciating protein-dissolving rot, watching in horror and agony as her body eats itself cell by oxygen-wasting cell.

Just kidding.

8^D

31 posted on 07/03/2012 9:02:22 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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