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Romney lied? Gee who would have guessed.
IX / X / MMXII | pansgold

Posted on 09/10/2012 9:06:27 AM PDT by pansgold

“What the Court did not do on its last day in session, I will do on my first day if elected President of the United States and that is I will act to repeal Obamacare."

"Well, I'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform,...Of course there are a number of things that I like in healthcare reform that I'm going to put in place...one is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage."

0bama had the democrats ram this bitter legislation (or tax) down our throats and now Romney tells us he's giving us seconds?

This ONE thing means he's not getting my vote. Let 0bama finish trashing Amerika with 4 more years.

One more politician, one lie too many.


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1 posted on 09/10/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: pansgold

go back to DU troll


2 posted on 09/10/2012 9:07:21 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: pansgold

You’re talking apples and oranges.

Job One is to repeal Obamacare.

Sensible helath reforms can come like it should have come—with debate, votes and a chance for the voice of the American people to be heard.

But we have to get rid of the monster that is Obamacare first, so Mitt has my vote.


3 posted on 09/10/2012 9:09:12 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: pansgold
Be nice if the Dembot moron squad bothered to actually read their own post

"Well, I'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform

No he not, there are still elements of the Health Care system that need to be fixed. Just getting rid of Obamacare is not a solution.

4 posted on 09/10/2012 9:09:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: pansgold

>> Let 0bama finish trashing Amerika with 4 more years. <<

Kitty, kitty, kitty.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 9:09:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: pansgold

I heard what he said.

I read what he said.

You need to take a reading/listening comprehension course.

Bye.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 9:11:55 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: pansgold

SCAT!!


7 posted on 09/10/2012 9:12:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: pansgold

Health care reform and Obamacare are two different animals. Yes, he intends to repeal Obamacare. And yes, he intends to draft a replacement for it that will handle reform in the right way.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 9:13:06 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: MNJohnnie

How about this? IF Romney is elected, he lets the House and Senate do THEIR JOB and WE will tell our employee what WE want him to do. Veto or sign into law.

DUH!


9 posted on 09/10/2012 9:13:33 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: pansgold

It pays to actually listen to the point being made by the candidate not just squeal in hysteria to the spin put on it by your Democrat Propaganda masters.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 9:16:09 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: pansgold

Shut up and dont vote


11 posted on 09/10/2012 9:16:15 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: pansgold

Why would you be surprised? Obama and Oromney work for the same masters. Hell, my bet is that Oromney will be told to take a dive in the 9th round so that Obama can continue as TOTUS.


12 posted on 09/10/2012 9:17:21 AM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: exit82

So you have bought the premise that the Federal Government need to “solve” the health care “problem”.

Just like your candidate.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 9:17:38 AM PDT by DManA
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To: al_c

He can propose legislation be passed by the congress. Let him say that. NOT SAY “Well, I’m not getting rid of all of healthcare reform”

First he can’t get rid of anything. That’s NOT a president’s job ... is it. It’s the job of congress and WE tell our representatives how they should vote.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 9:18:10 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: JohnKinAK

Try reading some of my posts for the past 10 years.


15 posted on 09/10/2012 9:20:05 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: exit82
Sensible helath reforms can come like it should have come—with debate, votes and a chance for the voice of the American people to be heard.

REPEAL IT FIRST. Then replace it with a plan that is 180 degrees in the other direction. DEREGULATE insurance companies with respect to where they do buisness and and what rates they negotiate. That increases competition and gives healthcare providers more choices and room to do business. TORT reform. You want to lower the cost that doctors and hospitals charge considerably? Help reduce their malpractice insurance premiums and stop forcing doctors to order MRIs and CAT scans for a sprained ankle. If you want pre-existing conditions covered, that is acceptable but then don't tell insurance companies what premiums they have to charge. This forces them to lose money and they have to raise rates across the board to make up for it. This is called "high risk" insurance similar to flood insurance, reckless driver auto insurance (D&D record), ect. Obamacare legislates the forced loss of proffit for insurance companies. It is designed to put them out of business.

16 posted on 09/10/2012 9:22:14 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: MNJohnnie
He finessed the criticism of him based on his continued support of Romney care by saying that was a State based “solution”.

If now he is saying he accepts the premise that the Federal Government must take the lead in health care reform, his defense is no longer a defense. It is revealed for what it was - a slimy ruse.

17 posted on 09/10/2012 9:23:06 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Perdogg
Romney is a liberal.

Should he be elected President, he will promote big government; he will protect abortion by using the “health of the mother” rationale; he will promote the gay agenda; and he will pass amnesty for illegal aliens.

Conservatives who are now supporting Romney will be bitterly betrayed.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 9:23:20 AM PDT by Oak Grove
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To: exit82

Romney said he is not going to repeal obamacare because he likes much of it, and why not, he is the father of obamacare.
He is saying he is just going to tweak it. (today anyway)


19 posted on 09/10/2012 9:23:27 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: DManA

Oh, please—knock it off.

Are you going to vote for Obama?

Don’t you think insurance should be across state lines?

Want to keep the death panels?

Want to keep Fed government control of all healthcare?
Romney and Ryan want to return this to the states to administer. Who will do a better job?

In 57 days, your country will be kaput and you’re arguing about even voting for Romney/Ryan.


20 posted on 09/10/2012 9:26:14 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: Perdogg

Over at DU, they probably like the idea of using the government to force health insurers to take on people with pre-existing conditions. After all, welfare’s real popular with those leftie types.


21 posted on 09/10/2012 9:27:13 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: Oak Grove

You watch out Oak, get out your flame protection suit.
There are many so called conservatives on FR that don’t want to read the true.


22 posted on 09/10/2012 9:27:31 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MNJohnnie
No he not, there are still elements of the Health Care system that need to be fixed. Just getting rid of Obamacare is not a solution.

Guess what? Using the power of the state to force insurers to keep "children" past the age of 26 on their parents' policies, and using the power of the state to force insurers to take on people with pre-existing conditions isn't the way to go about fixing the system.

Good grief. Doesn't anybody here actually believe in the "free market" anymore?

23 posted on 09/10/2012 9:30:08 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: pansgold

There were actually a few decent ideas that snuck into the bill (not that anyone would have known, as nobody read it). But the job certainly needs to be full repeal and then go back and try to pass to good elements by themselves. Selective repeal would just be a mess.


24 posted on 09/10/2012 9:30:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: pansgold

O’s health care bill was passed unread by congress. Job one is to get rid of it. It should never have been passed by a congress that took seriously its constitutional role.

Then congress can do its job. Write its own bill. Debate the bill. Hammer out an agreement between the parties that the country can live with.

Like ought to have been done the first time.


25 posted on 09/10/2012 9:31:02 AM PDT by marron
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To: svcw
Romney said he is not going to repeal obamacare because he likes much of it, and why not, he is the father of obamacare. He is saying he is just going to tweak it. (today anyway)He is already on record as repealing Obamacare is his priority.

So you don;t like Romney, fine, but quite frankly, he is the only person in a position to beat Obama in 57 days.

So, he's my man in order to save the country from another four years of the usurper and his Commie Choom gang.

You are either part of the problem or part of the solution. There is no third option.

26 posted on 09/10/2012 9:31:14 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: pansgold
Try reading some of my posts for the past 10 years.

I would love to, but your sign on date is 4/15/09.

27 posted on 09/10/2012 9:34:00 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: Oak Grove
Conservatives who are now supporting Romney will be bitterly betrayed.

Exactly right, OG.

The only long-term benefit I can see to Romney winning is that because his single term will be such a disappointing failure, enough of these "conservatives" here on FR and elsewhere might finally reach the point where they're willing to ditch the GOP and create a genuine conservative party that could appeal to independents and moderates on the basis of solid stands on principles and leadership, instead of unconvincing fearmongering. May the GOP go the way of the Whigs, and be replaced by a party that actually stands for something.

28 posted on 09/10/2012 9:34:51 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: exit82

I am showing you that the idea that we have a choice is an illusion. The election about who can manage the growth of the nanny state most effectively.


29 posted on 09/10/2012 9:35:21 AM PDT by DManA
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To: marron
BINGO!

Impeach rogue politicians that do not represent the will of the majority of their constituents. I say impeach because they are so entrenched by Gerrymandering they are all but impossible to vote out.

30 posted on 09/10/2012 9:35:30 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: svcw

Yep, he even said during a TV interview that he was “glad” that Obama drew on Romneycare for inspiration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9njHHyRI7g

(Go to 1:05)

In two months, Milquetoast Mitt will fall flat on his face because he impresses nobody and turns off prospective supporters with his constant flip-flops.


31 posted on 09/10/2012 9:36:01 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: pansgold
It’s the job of congress and WE tell our representatives how they should vote.

We've told them ... they know what we want. But if we don't get Obama out of office, it will be a futile effort undoing what he's done.

32 posted on 09/10/2012 9:36:59 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: exit82

Oh, good grief, that music is boring.

If I don’t do what you want, I am part of the problem.

No, the problem is that so called conservatives roll over to the GOPe because next time we’ll get a real conservative candidate, really I promise lets just win this and then worry about that later.....

guess what each time the Republican candidate is more liberal than the last.

Sorry sweetie I am not dancing to that tune any longer.


33 posted on 09/10/2012 9:38:09 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: pansgold
I'm reminded of the posts here recently, where folks says, “no one on FR wants Obama to win”.
34 posted on 09/10/2012 9:38:15 AM PDT by TankerKC (If Mitt Romney is elected, everyone in the US will die!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Obama thanks you for your vote.


35 posted on 09/10/2012 9:38:34 AM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: exit82

try the “NEXT” page. BACK!!! BACK!!!


36 posted on 09/10/2012 9:39:21 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: Cato in PA

You got that right.
Great link by the way.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 9:41:04 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: DManA

I have been voting for 40 years—I really don’t need you to show me anything.

The only illusion I see is that people voting for Obama means America surviving as a country with him getting another term.

All politicians are imperfect, and all of them lie. In all forty years, it has been a choice between two imperfect candidates—this is no different.

The question is—who will do the least damage, given the choice we have.

A liberal ex-governor from Massachusetts who will repeal Obamacare and believes in free enterprise, or a no good Communist community organiozing, America hating usurper who has had four years experience in ruining AMerica and wants to finish the job?

57 days—one choice.

You decide.


38 posted on 09/10/2012 9:41:10 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: pansgold

>> Try reading some of my posts for the past 10 years.

I tried, ‘ratstool, but you’ve only been here for three.

BTW, you don’t get extra “seniority” for the time you spend at DU.

Now why don’t you take a cue from Clint Eastwood and go do something to yourself.


39 posted on 09/10/2012 9:43:22 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: pansgold

Ron Paul said so?


40 posted on 09/10/2012 9:43:33 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: exit82

Romney is NOT going to repeal obamacare, no matter how many times you say it does not make it true.
Romney is not even saying he (today anyway) is going to repeal it, all he says now is that he is going to tweak it.


41 posted on 09/10/2012 9:44:07 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: exit82
Be honest. Repeal AND REPLACE. The second have of that slogan makes all the difference.
42 posted on 09/10/2012 9:45:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: exit82
57 days—one choice.

I choose to vote Constitution Party, joining my voice with those telling the GOP-e "We're off your plantation."

43 posted on 09/10/2012 9:45:39 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: pansgold

http://www.freerepublic.com/~pansgold/

Since April 15, 2009.


44 posted on 09/10/2012 9:45:42 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: svcw

Quite frankly, I don’t see you offering a solution to the dilemma at hand.

You just snipe from the sidelines where you put yourself, as if you won’t be suffering the fate all of us will suffer if Zippy gets another shot at “transforming America”.

You can dance to any tune you want, especially after 1/20/13, because FR’s days will be numbered before it is shut down due to “an unseemly level of political dissent and hate”.

Then you can sing “Fa-la-la-la-la-lah” with your fingers in your ears, and skip around deliriously. Actually that would be more productive than what you do now on FR 24 hours a day.


45 posted on 09/10/2012 9:47:22 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: pansgold

Romney, the grandfather of socialism... That guy lied? No way! After all he has a conservative co- pilot and don’t forget the R after his name.


46 posted on 09/10/2012 9:49:02 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today! Walker, Issa, Rubio,)
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To: D-fendr

“posts” not page. Read over. I have been posting here since 1994. The page was modified date is meaningless.


47 posted on 09/10/2012 9:49:10 AM PDT by pansgold
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
I choose to vote Constitution Party, joining my voice with those telling the GOP-e "We're off your plantation."

Wow, I am sure they will take note of that.You might want to tip them off in advance so they don't miss the point.

48 posted on 09/10/2012 9:50:18 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: pansgold

>> I have been posting here since 1994.

You’ve been posting here since before Free Republic was started? Really, troll?


49 posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: DManA
Be honest. Repeal AND REPLACE. The second have of that slogan makes all the difference.

If the replacement equals what is repealed , you have a point. Otherwise, you don't. Since the two are NOT equivalent, I'll go with the latter position.

50 posted on 09/10/2012 9:52:58 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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