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Shocking Moment Cop floored woman with savage sucker punch during parade
DailyMail ^ | October 1, 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 10/01/2012 3:31:28 PM PDT by Altariel

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To: Strategerist

At 2 and 3 seconds of the video you can see the arm with a water bottle throw water underhand and it hits the woman and the Police almost simultaneously. The Cop turns around and sees the woman with the bottle and wham. The Cop is screwed on this one!


151 posted on 10/01/2012 6:34:19 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Uncle Chip

Okay, I finally watched the video after following this thread half the day.

The video shows me jack squat. A vicious sucker punch would not have left the woman looking up at the cop just seconds later. I couldn’t even tell if it was a closed fist. Way too little information from that video to arrive at the knee-jerk conclusion that the cop thugged out.

Anyway, why was the phone(?) video trained on that particular group of people in the first place? I saw nothing of any interest going on except for the slapdown, or whatever it was. It would be interesting to know if the person who took the video knows the woman.


152 posted on 10/01/2012 6:40:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SgtHooper
She will be happy with the settlement. Let’s just say $100,000.

You would be happy with 100k if you got your teeth knocked out or a broken nose? No way.

153 posted on 10/01/2012 6:40:28 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: CharlesWayneCT
If 5 more people come and attack his position, will that make his position even more untenable? Do we track truth by how many people are on one side of it?

Are you serious? Fifty people see the same heinous act, but that doesn't matter as long as there's one badgekisser with kneepads ready to gobble the union knob? We're citizens, that waste polishing a sergeant's chair with his teflon coated, woman beating asscrack is SUPPOSED to work for us. Remember?

154 posted on 10/01/2012 6:43:30 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Are you a lawyer, either for criminal prosecutions or defense, for assault cases?

Or do you just play one on the Internet?

In which latter case I’m calling B.S.


155 posted on 10/01/2012 6:47:38 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lancey Howard; All
A vicious sucker punch would not have left the woman looking up at the cop just seconds later. I couldn’t even tell if it was a closed fist. Way too little information from that video to arrive at the knee-jerk conclusion that the cop thugged out. Anyway, why was the phone(?) video trained on that particular group of people in the first place? I saw nothing of any interest going on except for the slapdown, or whatever it was. It would be interesting to know if the person who took the video knows the woman.

So, it's a CONSPIRACY. Let me guess...fake blood capsule in the woman's mouth, too, right?

Tell you what ladies...if you're looking for a man, show this clip to any first dates, because someone's who's ready to go all the way to Fantasy Island to justify striking a woman HALF his size in the HEAD, you need out of your house at gunpoint...and that's the name of that freakin tune...

156 posted on 10/01/2012 6:59:15 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Don't know which video you watched...

Video Link

The pig hit her so hard that the force of the blow knocked her off her feet. She was bleeding afterword...This was a vicious assault, and the pig needs to go to jail.
157 posted on 10/01/2012 7:00:15 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: Lancey Howard
A vicious sucker punch would not have left the woman looking up at the cop just seconds later

So anything that doesn't leave the victim unconscious isn't a "vicious sucker punch?"

158 posted on 10/01/2012 7:10:46 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Lancey Howard
Watch the cop after hitting her. He opens his hand and looks at it as if to indicate that that is what he hit her with -- an open hand. Right after he hit her he knew he was wrong.

If he does something like this out in the open where people are watching and taping in front of all the other officers, then think of what he may be doing behind the closed walls of the precinct.

159 posted on 10/01/2012 7:12:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Strategerist
So anything that doesn't leave the victim unconscious isn't a "vicious sucker punch?"

I dunno, but I know if I punch you in the face you won't stand up and walk away looking like that woman. And if I "viciously sucker punch" you in the face, yeah, you won't get up in any hurry.

160 posted on 10/01/2012 7:13:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
I dunno, but I know if I punch you in the face you won't stand up and walk away looking like that woman.

I didn't see someone stand up and walk away, I saw someone on the ground that the cops picked up and and partially carried away.

161 posted on 10/01/2012 7:19:55 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Lancey Howard
Here's a You Tube video of the incident.

Would you tell me what you see at about 2 seconds into the film on the left side of the frame? Does it look like someone's arm in a black sleeve shirt tossing water in the direction of the girl and the cop?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfIm-t6yCbY

Do you think the cop got the right person?

162 posted on 10/01/2012 7:28:29 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Uncle Chip
I watched a less herky-jerky video HERE.
Now I'm wondering why she walked halfway across the street and then turned around and went back?
163 posted on 10/01/2012 7:33:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fwdude; Nifster
See post 162 with the You Tube link.

Who tossed the water - the girl who got struck by the cop, or the person in the black sleeve shirt?

164 posted on 10/01/2012 7:36:10 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Lancey Howard
Now I'm wondering why she walked halfway across the street and then turned around and went back?

Oh man - I didn't realize that - clearly a sniper should have shot her in the head for suspicious behavior like that.

165 posted on 10/01/2012 7:39:19 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: fwdude

Then you would have no qualms denouncing the officer’s behavior and wouldn’t have tried to justify it.

You are on record as defending and supporting a corruption of the judicial process—that corrupt judges will give a cop’s testimony more weight than a non-cop citizen.


166 posted on 10/01/2012 7:40:18 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Ken H
Who tossed the water - the girl who got struck by the cop, or the person in the black sleeve shirt?

The point, of course, is that it doesn't matter.

167 posted on 10/01/2012 7:40:18 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Have Ruck - Will Travel

“I despise cowardly thugs who wear badges and impersonate “REAL” police officers.”

Well said. I prefer to use their old title: peace officers.


168 posted on 10/01/2012 7:41:24 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Ken H

It looks to me like the cop got the wrong person, definitely. I also looked for the coward who threw the liquid but the person who owned that leg was not seen in the video again. That cop screwed up and should be suspended based on what I saw.


169 posted on 10/01/2012 7:42:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Strategerist
...clearly a sniper should have shot her in the head for suspicious behavior like that.

You're pretty sick.

170 posted on 10/01/2012 7:44:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Strategerist
I didn't see someone stand up and walk away, I saw someone on the ground that the cops picked up and and partially carried away.

Then you're blind, too.

171 posted on 10/01/2012 7:45:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That cop screwed up and should be suspended based on what I saw.

If that were you wife or daughter who was struck, would you be satisfied with just a suspension for the cop?

172 posted on 10/01/2012 7:46:48 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Lancey Howard
You're pretty sick.

Sarcasm, of course. Though it can be hard to tell with all the merely sincere but stupid, non-sarcastic posts where people were desperately trying to figure out how she was "asking for it."

173 posted on 10/01/2012 7:47:39 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Lancey Howard

There could be any number of reasons. Cameras are commonplace these days and their presence is not de facto evidence of a conspiracy.

The more important question is: why did the officer believe he was justified in punching a woman in public?

Why did his fellow officers rally around him instead of *immediately* handcuffing him and taking him into custody for battery?


174 posted on 10/01/2012 7:49:29 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Progov

At the 2-second mark, you can see a man in shorts enter from the left while his arm comes forward underhanded as he tosses a handful of something into the crowd of officers. The woman was hit by this same volley. Not once did she ever raise a hand to spray anything.


175 posted on 10/01/2012 7:49:45 PM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Ken H

didn’t she shoot the cop with silly string first? under the law that is still battery and is still battery on a police officer.


176 posted on 10/01/2012 7:50:49 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Lancey Howard
Then you're blind, too.

I have a feeling she would have spent a lot more time sitting on the ground if she wasn't handcuffed and had each arm grabbed by a cop and led away.

It's a little hard to grasp exactly what you're arguing - that she wasn't knocked unconscious and the cop isn't Mike Tyson somehow partially exonerates the cop?

177 posted on 10/01/2012 7:52:09 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: longtermmemmory
didn’t she shoot the cop with silly string first? under the law that is still battery and is still battery on a police officer.

I find it remarkable that you have the mental wherewithal to operate a computer and type words and everything, but what exactly would have prevented the cop from grabbing her arms and/or restraining her and handcuffing her, while simultaneously calling for help to do so from the approximately 5 billion cops 2 feet away? Or was she just so big and powerful that a punch to the face was needed?

178 posted on 10/01/2012 7:58:39 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

you will please note the question mark. it cuts down on the need for silly personal attacks.

I was thinking along the lines of the old rodney king tape. remember how the MSM only showed a few seconds but the whole tape was 12 minutes long?


179 posted on 10/01/2012 8:04:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
didn’t she shoot the cop with silly string first?

Did you not look at the You Tube video? Someone in a black sleeve shirt tossed the water (or string). That's what both she and the cop were reacting to.

Look at the video again about 2 seconds in. Do you think the cop got the right person?

180 posted on 10/01/2012 8:06:05 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: fwdude
What was the history with the cop and the woman? Did he give her any kind of earlier warning? What was thrown at the cop (Silly String is presumed.)? Did she have serious arrest warrants outstanding? Was she already known as being a violent offender (women tugs are some of the worst.)

Cop juiced up on steriods demanded sex from her and she refused. Happy now?

181 posted on 10/01/2012 8:10:39 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Ken H
If that were you wife or daughter who was struck, would you be satisfied with just a suspension for the cop?

Nope. Thank goodness my wife and daughter wouldn't be caught dead in a concentrated Democrat parasite nest ("city") let alone at a Puerto Rico Pride parade (or whatever it was).

182 posted on 10/01/2012 8:10:57 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tuanedge

You misunderstood my entire statement, although you did quote it accurately.

There is not one person posting here who “saw” anything. They saw a video. They are discussing the video. One person has an interpretation of the video. That interpretation is either right or wrong.

And whether it is right or wrong is dependent on the facts, both what can be gleaned from the video, and what else was observed at the scene — not the number of people who have a different interpretation.

Fact is not decided by majority opinion. That was what I said. It is a bullying argument which suggests that a person should back down from their opinion because “so many people” disagree with them.


183 posted on 10/01/2012 8:11:33 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ken H; Lancey Howard

The woman comes from the other side of the crowd — not the curb — in this video and appears to be taunting the cops and said something that upset the sergeant. When he turned in her direction she knew he was coming after her. It wasn’t the guy on the left of the camera throwing something that started it. It was something that she said that angered the police sergeant. That’s what it looks like.


184 posted on 10/01/2012 8:18:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Hoodat; Strategerist

I don’t think the guy on the left throwing anything had anything to do with the officer’s action. Watch her actions from the start. She was taunting the cops or saying something to them that they didn’t like. That is why when the sergeant turned around she retreated. She knew immediately that he was coming after her.


185 posted on 10/01/2012 8:26:46 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: All

Compare this officer’s (and the department’s) actions with Sir Robert Peel’s Principles:

1. The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.

2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon the public approval of police actions.

3. Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.

4. The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.

5. Police seek and preserve public favour not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.

6. Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.

7. Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

8. Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions, and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.

9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.


186 posted on 10/01/2012 8:28:11 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: CharlesWayneCT; All

And all I’ll say is that I despise whatever definition of manhood the apologists for this vicious assault possess.

The so called “men” who are so personally and emotionally invested in any vicious animal in uniform that reflexively beats down a woman half his size, because water droplets touched his f*ck*ng sacred person... I just tell you straight out, people who defend this, are not men. Take that any way you want.

Woman beaters. And their fans. On the “premier conservative site on the internet”. Ain’t that a hoot?


187 posted on 10/01/2012 8:30:11 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Even if “She said something I didn’t like” is the case, that excuse is NEVER a justification for battery.


188 posted on 10/01/2012 8:30:51 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Uncle Chip
I see nothing of the kind. For the first couple of seconds, she's walking right past the cops and they don't even seem to notice her.

She and the cop then react at the same time to the water (or string?) that was tossed by the person in the black sleeves.

189 posted on 10/01/2012 8:33:39 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Altariel

He shouldn’t have hit her but she was taunting the police. Initially it was postulated and I thought as well that she was just innocently crossing the street and mistaken for throwing something at the police. But after watching it carefully it is clear that she was taunting the police. She wasn’t an innocent by-stander.


190 posted on 10/01/2012 8:36:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Ken H
Watch it again.

She didn't start from the curb. She starts from over by the group of police and is hopping up and down as if agitated. She is saying something to the police the whole time.

191 posted on 10/01/2012 8:39:54 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Garbage.

The cops don't even pay attention to her until they're hit with the string. If she were agitated and taunting the cops, they would have certainly noticed and reacted.

You have no basis for saying she was taunting the cops.

192 posted on 10/01/2012 8:46:33 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Tuanedge
Yeah, but they support him because he's really hot.

Lt Jonathan Josey II

193 posted on 10/01/2012 8:46:54 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Ken H

She said something that got the police angered. The sergeant and the other four officers to turn right around and eyeball her right away and go right after her. They didn’t look around for anybody else. They looked right at her — all of them. Whatever angered them came from her and apparently her mouth.


194 posted on 10/01/2012 8:48:17 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Ken H

Tell me where she is just as the video starts and is she not jumping up and down as if agitated or agitating??? Yes or No???


195 posted on 10/01/2012 8:53:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
No. She does not look at all agitated.

If she were agitated and taunting the cops they would have at least turned in her direction, and they did not. They looked quite relaxed until the string hit them.

Sorry pal, the cop screwed the pooch here.

196 posted on 10/01/2012 8:59:54 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: CharlesWayneCT

They said on TV it looked like she signaled someone to throw water.


197 posted on 10/01/2012 9:01:47 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Altariel
FWIW, this story from the other day. Where a border patrol cop shot a woman driver....while he was hanging on the hood of her car...WTH?
198 posted on 10/01/2012 9:02:12 PM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Whatever angered them came from her and apparently her mouth.

So, in short, when anyone says something that angers cops, it is entirely appropriate and legal for said cops to literally beat that person's mouth shut, even when the person in question represents no physical threat to said cops.

Do you enjoy being a serf?
199 posted on 10/01/2012 9:23:11 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared.....for what's coming AFTER America.)
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To: Ken H
No. She does not look at all agitated.

Yeh -- her hopping up and down at the start of the video is a new dance step???

Sorry but you are wrong. As the video starts she is up there close to the cops gathered there and hops up and down as she backs up as if to stay on her toes and saying something to the police the whole time.

If she were agitated and taunting the cops they would have at least turned in her direction, and they did not.

They did -- watch it and watch them. They turn right towards her.

They looked quite relaxed until the string hit them.

What string??? I see no string. There is a guy on the left of the field of vision that throws water or something but he is so far away that it would never have gotten that far. That wasn't why they turned around. It was what she was saying. Put sound to this and I'll bet you would hear her mouth moving the whole time until she said something and the police had had enough.

If it was the string or something that someone else threw, then why did she retreat as soon as they turned around. Immediately she starts to retreat. She knew that it was what her mouth was throwing at them that got them to turn around and her reaction proves it.

200 posted on 10/01/2012 9:30:42 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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