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To: MrChips

Really? With that kind of reply Johnny Majors should have won in 1956. Time is relative. Think about it.


18 posted on 12/02/2012 9:08:52 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: eyedigress
No need to denigrate Hornung, who that year ran for 450 yards and passed for 1,337, occasionally played defense, ranking #2 on the team in tackles, made several interceptions, lined up as Quarterback, fullback, and tailback, was the punter, ranked #2 nationally in kickoff returns, #15 nationally in passing, #16 in scoring. He played through several injuries, and he was a two-time All-American. Majors finished a distant second in the voting, narrowly beating out Tom McDonald of Oklahoma, and actually did finish 3rd to McDonald in 1st place votes.

No one is arguing that Teo should win BECAUSE he is on a #1 team. They are saying that the Heisman once had a tradition of including in its criteria "that player who has meant the most to his team" and Manti certainly has a lot to do with Notre Dame's achievements this year, game in and game out. It's not all about winning. It's more about the inspiration he has given this team. And on the personal character issue . . . hands down, its Teo.

31 posted on 12/02/2012 9:38:25 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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